Hilary Duff News Thread

[James]

Hey guys, this thread is just to discuss news on Hilary Duff's new album, and other news regarding her singles, fragrances, and relationships. Here's a link to her first single of her new single "Play with Fire"-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAuWZIwqSMM -, and here's a link to her promo for her fragrance, with her song "With Love"-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfqr9llYg6Y . Coincidentally, her second single is rumoured to be With Love, and likely as not, will be.
I personally really like both her new songs, and clips/promos. She evolving well, into a new look, and it suits her. From the imdb.com forums on her, her new album could be called "Love Me, Love Me", "4Ever Hilary", "Confessions", "Confessions of Love" or "A Dramatic Life". I think that any of these could work-"Play with Fire", "Play with Love", "New Direction", "Reinvented", "Exposed", "End of Innocence" or "With Love". "End of Innocence" is my favourite one. They're all pretty much rumours at the moment though. They're all from the forums at Imdb.com, although a few I came up with on my own. Oh, and I'm saddened that Joel Madden broke up with her only to go to Nicole Richie. She really doesn't have a reason for being famous, even though "The Simple Life" is all right.
Any thoughts on her or her career?
-James

[slave2moonlight]

Hil is still my number one girl. I mean, I seriously adore her. I went to one of her concerts (Most Wanted Tour) and my bedroom walls are plastered with posters from it, and I always have her latest calendar on the wall too. I haven't looked into her new album yet, but all this reinvention talk doesn't thrill me. I have to admit, I never thought she'd go in for the fads like getting super thin and stuff like that, and I certainly hope she doesn't try to shed her good girl image on this or any future album (which is why I'm not thrilled about the idea of an "End of Innocence" type album name, which puts me in mind of past female pop stars and their respective "going slutty" albums. I don't believe Hil will go that route, but I've been wrong about her before). I wasn't a fan of her less than natural changes, obviously, like the sudden and extreme weight loss and the false teeth, so I'm not thrilled about her new look because of the less than natural aspects of it. She was, in my opinion, the definition of female beauty before those changes. However, at times she does still look beautiful, and hopefully the ultra-thin images I still see of her sometimes were taken some time ago, and all the lovely and elegant ones are more recent. I gotta say though, I caught a few seconds of Hil in Cheaper By the Dozen 2, and she looked scary in that! I'll continue to support her though, and look forward to her new album. I'll still ask her out if I ever meet her while she's single, ha. While I am sad for any pain it caused her, I was quite glad to hear of her breaking up with Joel. I always felt they were a total mismatch, and this time it's not just the jealousy talking, ha. At first, everyone was saying it was the age difference, which I hope isn't the case. I don't believe that is ever a legitimate excuse if people are within 15 years of each other and both adults. I've seen too many strong relationships with big age differences, and I believe making it work is more about having common interests and beliefs. I more recently heard that the age difference thing was just an excuse, and the real reason for the break up was that Joel was failing to take the threats Hil was receiving from a stalker seriously. Apparantly, they fought about it a lot. Of course, I just read that somewhere...

[Lazario]

I don't care about Hilary Duff one way or the other. I just think there's nothing special about her.

Sorry if anyone especially didn't want to hear that.

[dvdjunkie]

After having to deal with Miss Duff and her equally annoying sister Haylie, I have come to the conclusion that no one can be this stupid. Hilary actually called down to the front desk her first night in the Hotel to find out how to turn on the television. Now that is really dumb.

This is an experience I had with the Duff sisters last year when they were touring with Jesse McCartney as moral support. Jesse was really cool and seemed annoyed that they were tagging along.

Now all that being said, "The Lizzie McGuire Movie" is one of my favorite films and I thought that she was pretty good in it. Since then she hasn't done anything to put her up on top of any ratings, or sales charts. Her concert here in Wichita was a real bomb, the reviewer even said that you could tell in the dance numbers that she was lip syncing, while most of the rest of her show was just average.

I think Hilary Duff has outlived her fifteen minutes of fame, and we should just leave well-enough alone.

[numba1lostboy]

I'm definitely in the same boat as S2M. I love Hilary. Simple as that.

I hope she doesn't go the route of Disney vixens before her- Lindsay, Christina, and the infamous Britney. I was already disappointed when I saw the previews for Cheaper By The Dozen 2 and she was emaciated. I didn't forsee her going all skinny...
I have listened to her first single (Play With Fire), and I liked it okay. I pretty much loved her Most Wanted album, so I have high hopes for this one, but I also don't want her to create an "End of Innocence" movement. I'm all for her career to advance, but I wish she didn't feel like she had to do that to get more money.

I also think she is one of the few that can sing AND act, but, if she had to choose one, I would tell her to stick to acting.

[slave2moonlight]

After having to deal with Miss Duff and her equally annoying sister Haylie, I have come to the conclusion that no one can be this stupid. Hilary actually called down to the front desk her first night in the Hotel to find out how to turn on the television. Now that is really dumb.

Okay, that's a little sad, ha. On the other hand, some hotels have things set up really strangely, and perhaps she couldn't find the remote? I've noticed that generations that grew up with remote controls often don't realize there is a power button on the actual TV set, ha. I also have noticed that when you get two girls together in their teens/20s, their combined I.Q. actually goes down rather than up, ha ha. And, before anyone gets upset, I'll confess that it seems to be the same with guys, though probably in different ways.

Now all that being said, "The Lizzie McGuire Movie" is one of my favorite films and I thought that she was pretty good in it. Since then she hasn't done anything to put her up on top of any ratings, or sales charts.

While I agree with the above statement, I don't think we've seen the last of Hilary, and I suspect her next album will be a big hit. I also have to sympathize, because it looks to me like she is trying to keep her career decent, and that is a tricky thing to do and still be successful. It might come down to whether or not she can be satisfied with making movies just for the Hallmark Channel or something (which is one of the better channels on the air today, I feel). I THINK I would rather see her stay in acting if she had to choose, if she sticks with family films or at least keeps her clothes on, but it seems more likely that she may end up just singing. Of course, with that too, there's great pressure to start stripping to keep up popularity, especially if you don't have a "blow 'em away" type voice (but, look at Christina Aguilera, she gets naked anyway). Sad thing is, you can only go for so long on that. Look at Britney Spears. And, it always makes me think back to how Walt asked Annette not to expose her navel in those beach movies. When I think about that, and then see Britney, Lindsay, and Christina, among others, it's really heartbreaking. I can't imagine what his reaction would be if Anette had come out with that "Dirty" video, ha. I'd be quite happy with Hil and remain a loyal supporter if she WOULD just end up doing regular Hallmark channel films, or something like that, myself. The question is, would she be satisfied with that...

As for being not so bright at times, that sort of thing is less irritating when a girl is young and cute, ha. If Hil is going to be calling front desks to ask about how to turn on a TV, or tagging along with people who don't want a tag-along, she may want to think about looking "cute" again, ha. But, she can still tag along with me, as long as she doesn't still look as scary as she did in "Cheaper by the Dozen 2."

[James]

I actually don't mind when celebrities like Lindsay, Christina, and Britney strip and party, etc. They're maturing, and as we've seen from the likes of the Pussycat Dolls, sex sells. It doesn't mean that this quality neccessarily goes down. Look at some of the stuff from Christina since her Dirrty breakthrough. Beautiful, Fighter, and The Voice Within have been modern masterpieces, and her new phase is intriuging to say the least. It's not like she's rested on an image of her being a slut, even though she does appear to be every now and then. And there's actually nothing wrong with that. And look at Britney since "I'm A Slave 4 U". She hasn't made many masterpieces, but she has definitely work pretty hard to keep her profile up, with her publicity stunts, births, marriages, new CDs, movies, and singles. Her tours have been interesting as well. Her songs have been good too, with "Everytime", and "And Then We Kiss" being thought-provoking, along with "Toxic", and "Me Vs The Music" being provocative and energetic. Being a slut doesn't mean you're a bad person. Lindsay has always kind of been a bit more racy and sexy with her music, and this time will pass, as she's only young. Anyway, shes has got her priorities straight, with her dedicating herself to seven movies for future release, with many of them of the drama genre. And she has just released her first two ensemble drama movies, "Bobby" and "A Prarie Home Companion". She isn't doing teen flicks anymore. It's not like she's just partying all day and all night without doing work, like Nicole Richie, etc. Lindsay is actually making albums, and shooting movies. Who cares if they dress down a bit more?
As for Hilary, who cares if she's maturing? She needs to reinvent herself if she wants to stay in this career. She can't stay the little girl next door forever. And it is so not like she's become a slut or anything. If you'd watch the clips, she's just modernised her image slightly, and made her sound more edgy. She's just maturing, she hasn't turned into a slut or anything. And the title "End of Innocence" is just a rumoured title; nothing is set in stone for her album title. And I don't care if she had to ask how to turn on the TV. Hotel TVs are the trickiest piece of electronics to work. I always ask my dad to turn it on, because I can't work it properly. And S2M is right in saying that teenage girls seem more stupid with their friends. They all become like that. It's not their fault.
Stop blaming these successful recording artists and actresses, just because they're doing something worthwhile with their lives, and having every move scrutinised by the public. It's not right.
-James

[slave2moonlight]

In retrospect, I think I can actually recall times that even I have been in hotel rooms where the TVs have seemed inoperable. Of course, I don't know what the case was in Hil's situation, but, as James says, they can be the trickiest things to try and work. Hotel TVs are just weird.

That incident aside though, I want to make it clear that I never said that Hilary was going slutty. I said I hope she never goes in that direction, and that I wouldn't expect her to, but she has surprised me in the recent past with other things (like joining the Hollywood waif club). And, while James may think there is nothing wrong with "going slutty," I strongly disagree. I guess it depends on personal opinion, but I don't consider being a slut a good thing (for either sex) or any sign of maturity at all. In fact, just the opposite. I realize it is the popular lifestyle nowadays, but to me that doesn't make it right. I have always applauded Hilary for not stooping to the "sex sells" route, and for settling for lesser films that have higher values. It would have been better for her, though, if she had stayed on good terms with Disney, assuming it is her desire to keep up the family friendly image. And, while Britney and Christina may still create great music, that should be enough on its own, yet it is completely overshadowed by their sluttiness! If it's porn you want to make, get into the porn business. There is no connection between maturing and going "slutty," and in a singing career, your voice should be the showcase, just as in an acting career, your acting should be the focus. Slutting it up is just an easy way to get all eyes on you, and says nothing for your skills. It's just like doing ANYTHING for shock value. It may be entertaining, but to me it is a sign of immaturity, a way to sidestep talent (whether you've got it or not), and just plain weak. Mature? No, it's growing into a beautiful body and not knowing how to use it maturely. There are better, sexier ways to be sexy than just stripping down and shaking it, and, for me, well, it just causes me to lose all respect for them. I don't care about how much money they're making or how hard they're working, I'm more concerned with the kind of person they represent themselves as. And it's not just because they are role models to youth (and they are, don't kid yourself; it's part of the price of the fame they so viciously worked for), it's because everyone should care about what kind of person they are and represent themselves as. To me, these girls like Lindsay absolutely do not have their priorities straight. Lindsay, I believe, just joined Alcoholics Anonymous, by the way. I'm glad she's joined up, but I have to give higher props to girls who don't get themselves into substance abuse problems. It's one of the reasons I love and respect Hilary. I am just wary because these are the crucial years for her, when pressure can force someone to reinvent themself in the wrong way. I would never expect her to, but as I said, she's surprised me before. I'll keep supporting her though, because I haven't lost faith in her morals yet. Britney and Christina lost my respect ages ago. Do I still like to watch them, sure, but to me they are little more than sex objects now, and that's all I can appeciate them as, and that's all their doing. It's the route they chose in order to make the bigger bucks.

[HalRoachFan]

IMO, Hilary should just stick to acting, which she's obviously better at, and not do music. She's about as talented as Ashlee Simpson in that department. Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams, let it wash away my sanity...

I <3 all the ignorance regarding Christina, including on this board. Before, I used to think of her exactly what a lot of you think, so at least I understand when people frequently put Christina in the same sentence as Britney and the others. I give it about 10 to 20 years from now before she gets the respect she deserves.

[numba1lostboy]

Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams, let it wash away my sanity...

One of her best songs, IMO. right up there with "Wake Up" and "Beat of My Heart."

[The Merman]

HalRoachFan wrote:
Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams, let it wash away my sanity...


One of her best songs, IMO. right up there with "Wake Up" and "Beat of My Heart."

Yes I agree that it is one of her best songs. She is growing up! So let the girl change and present her new style! As long as she does not get the slut image from Paris or Lindsey I am fine with her changing...

What I do not like though is that she starts sounding like Paris Hilton, mabey worse!! The "Fire" song made me shiver! It sounds really bad and I hope she can produce some songs worth listening to on her new album!

Oh btw she might have lost some weight but if you ask me she looks VERY good in the music video of "Fire".

[HalRoachFan]

IMO, Hilary should just stick to acting, which she's obviously better at, and not do music. She's about as talented as Ashlee Simpson in that department. Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams, let it wash away my sanity...

...

One of her best songs, IMO. right up there with "Wake Up" and "Beat of My Heart."

I rest my case.

[slave2moonlight]

Yes I agree that it is one of her best songs. She is growing up! So let the girl change and present her new style! As long as she does not get the slut image from Paris or Lindsey I am fine with her changing...

That's all I'm sayin'.

Oh btw she might have lost some weight but if you ask me she looks VERY good in the music video of "Fire".

Well, I have seen her look really good "post weight-loss" too, but I've also seen times when she looked downright sickly, Cheaper By the Dozen 2 is the prime example. I know that was just right after she lost all the weight, but I've recently seen footage of her looking just as sickly and I just can't say whether it is older footage or if she is yo-yoing. Hopefully, she is maintaining a "healthy" weight again. But, those caps she wears on her teeth make her look all the more emaciated. It's just a shame when her teeth looked great before (in my opinion, and I have a giant movie theater banner of just her face hanging in my room, ha).

[slave2moonlight]

I <3 all the ignorance regarding Christina, including on this board. Before, I used to think of her exactly what a lot of you think, so at least I understand when people frequently put Christina in the same sentence as Britney and the others. I give it about 10 to 20 years from now before she gets the respect she deserves.

It's not ignorance. Christina is lumped with Britney because they are both former Mouseketeers (at the same time) that became HUGELY successful and physically attractive pop-stars, but are no more famous for their singing than they are for their skankiness. Christina no doubt has an amazing talent, but she should have been able to make it on her talent alone rather than falling back on the "sex sells" bit. Of course, her story is that she is expressing who she is through her music, legitimizing it a bit. But, if who she is is a giant slut, I'm not interested. Christina is on that same level with Madonna. They're very talented, but they ride the shock value wave all they can. I simply don't respect that myself. However, I have more respect for Christina than I do for Britney and Madonna combined.

[numba1lostboy]

I <3 all the ignorance regarding Christina, including on this board. Before, I used to think of her exactly what a lot of you think, so at least I understand when people frequently put Christina in the same sentence as Britney and the others. I give it about 10 to 20 years from now before she gets the respect she deserves.

It's not ignorance. Christina is lumped with Britney because they are both former Mouseketeers (at the same time) that became HUGELY successful and physically attractive pop-stars, but are no more famous for their singing than they are for their skankiness. Christina no doubt has an amazing talent, but she should have been able to make it on her talent alone rather than falling back on the "sex sells" bit. Of course, her story is that she is expressing who she is through her music, legitimizing it a bit. But, if who she is is a giant slut, I'm not interested. Christina is on that same level with Madonna. They're very talented, but they ride the shock value wave all they can. I simply don't respect that myself. However, I have more respect for Christina than I do for Britney and Madonna combined.

S2M, the more you post, the more I whole-heartedly agree with you.

[The Little Merman]

**Excuse my comments, Hilary fans

People actually think this troll is attractive?



Yes, she was cute in "Lizzie" and it's film, but honestly she should just stay inside and bathe in her grotesquely immense cash-flow.

*tlm

[Wonderlicious]

What is that orange thing around her eyes? It makes her look like a character out of a Tennessee Williams play.

[The Little Merman]

Yes, I assume that that would be eye shadow. Horrible, unappealing eye shadow, none-the-less.

*tlm

[numba1lostboy]

Hey, I don't particularly think Jake Gyllenhaal is attractive, but I don't jump down your throat for it, do I?

Yes, I think that girl is beautiful.

[dvdjunkie]

If you think Hilary, Hailie, Paris, Nicole, Jessica, Christina, Brittany, et al, are beautiful, then either you are blind or you have poor taste in women. None of them reach above the 3 scale on a 1-10.