The Little Mermaid III Discussion Vol. 2

[Old Fish Tale]

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[gumby17]

hahahaha um nevermind haha

[Kyle]

I can never get past that horrible automated shading they love to use in cheapquels. its way over done and lacks that human touch of movies that do it right. Aladdin and lion king only shaded characters for close ups, when it was important. and when they did it was was all by hand. nowadays they do it to almost every shot, and they let the computer do it, making everyone look like balloon animals. the results leave a lot to be desired. they need to turn it off completely if they cant spend the time to do it right. but no, they insist it needs to look as 3d as possible at all time. the few shots where they did leave it out look pretty good. not as on model as it should be, but still decent.

anyway, these shots are HD resolution, does this mean it'll be a blu-ray release? or are these just high res press images for promotion and nothing more?

[jeremy88]

eh, I dunno, I just feel Marina's villainy is very blah. She bascially hates her job? Why not quit and go serve seaweed or something. I still haven't seen it, so I just have to wait and see how she does. But man, she makes Maleficent's reason to be so evil seem spectacular. *hides* (I really do like Maleficent, and I think she's the most creepy/evil villain of them all I just think the reason why she goes through all that trouble just well...sucks. Similar to The Queen, she needs to get over it too.) But then we have the freaking psycho nuts like Cruella De'Vil and everyone in Wonderland that make great villains that don't seem evil from the start...until you cross them that is.

Anyways, I'm still semi-looking forward to this. I just wish more involvment from the original was included. The banned music idea still reaks of tv episode. Still, I think this one will be a tad better then The Little Mermaid II since it stars Ariel.

Well I still think she's Ariel! But Poody said Ariel doesn't go to the surface at all only when she was a baby.

[Disney's Divinity]

Well I still think she's Ariel! But Poody said Ariel doesn't go to the surface at all only when she was a baby.

I agree. Just because this film might focus on the ban of music and Athena's death instead of Ariel's love for the human world doesn't mean she isn't the same Ariel. After all, a person's likes and dislikes don't make them the person they are. How they act is what matters and she's still very Ariel to me.

[Vermin Friends]

Well I still think she's Ariel! But Poody said Ariel doesn't go to the surface at all only when she was a baby.

I agree. Just because this film might focus on the ban of music and Athena's death instead of Ariel's love for the human world doesn't mean she isn't the same Ariel. After all, a person's likes and dislikes don't make them the person they are. How they act is what matters and she's still very Ariel to me.

He's not talking about Ariel's character/how the writers wrote her in TLM vs. TLM3, he's talking about the mermaid who jumped out of the water. Some people think she's Ariel, some (like myself) think otherwise.

[gumby17]

Article featuring the Director of the movie!!!!
http://disney.go.com/inside/mainattract ... index.html

Ever wonder if a wee Snow White whistled while she learned to walk or exactly who read bedtime stories to baby Belle? While Disney Princess sequels show us what follows "happily ever after," we haven't had insight into the early years of our beloved heroines -- until now. With the DVD release of "The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning," on August 26, Disney takes us on a magical journey into Ariel's past, showing us what made this young mermaid who she is today.

Just as every story has a beginning, every film has a director who helps bring the story to life. Enter director Peggy Holmes. With a background in dance and choreography, Peggy brings an innate understanding of movement that adds a new dimension to this perky princess. In working on a prequel, timing is everything, as Peggy explains that "it was very important to tell Ariel's story ...
... so that she'd be emotionally prepared for her adventures in the next film. Ariel discovers a truth about her history and comes to an understanding with her dad which puts her where she needs to be to fall in love and leave home."

Before the crimson-haired princess ever sets eyes on Prince Eric, she starts off as a wide-eyed mermaid whose family lives in song-filled Atlantica. Ariel's instantaneous love of music is illuminated through her mother, Athena, and her lullabies. Everything changes the day her beloved mom is forever lost while singing above the sea, darkening the days of the kingdom, and forcing a brokenhearted King Triton to banish all music.

The thought of an Atlantica without music is almost the same as an Ariel without Jodi Benson's voice. Fans will be happy to hear that the incredibly talented actress reprises her role as Ariel. Peggy says, "Jodi is the one and only Ariel. She created a character who truly lives in her heart. Jodi's an amazing storyteller, especially when she sings, as she puts so much emotion and character into her singing." Sam Wright also returns as Sebastian, King Triton's trusted crustacean advisor. But this time the crusty old crab's personality has a little extra zing. Going against the King's law, Sebastian keeps music alive by performing in an underground club. With emphasis on staying true to the original music of composers Howard Ashman and Alan Menken, Peggy felt it was also instrumental to offer a fresh take. "We wanted to embrace the sounds of Ariel while adding a contemporary feel to the music with the calypso vibe of Sebastian's songs." Rounding out the cast is screen legend Sally Field, who sinks her fins into the role of Marina del Rey, a deliciously evil nanny to Ariel and her sisters.

Despite the fact that this is a prequel, Peggy felt it was necessary to bring a modern feel into the story. This is done through the use of music, which is illustrated through the scene where Ariel meets Flounder, who impresses her with his beatboxing skills, forging a musical bond between the soon-to-be best friends.

While the original movie focused on following your heart, Peggy feels that "it was important to illustrate that music equals love. Part of what we wanted Ariel to do is to find that out for herself, then, ultimately bring that love back to her father's heart."

So while Prince Eric has not yet arrived to win Ariel's heart, don't be fooled into thinking this isn't a love story. It's the love of music, of remembering loved ones, and the love of a father and his daughter that make this adventure so memorable!

[Vermin Friends]

Ariel's instantaneous love of music is illuminated through her mother, Athena, and her lullabies.

Love this concept.

Despite the fact that this is a prequel, Peggy felt it was necessary to bring a modern feel into the story. This is done through the use of music, which is illustrated through the scene where Ariel meets Flounder, who impresses her with his beatboxing skills, forging a musical bond between the soon-to-be best friends.

Good intentions, but I hate it.

Other than that, it was a pretty good interview. Thanks for sharing!

[jeremy88]

even so heh, I agree with Disney's Divinity about how Ariel is the same character. She definitely still has that essence of Ariel thats free spirited, determined and headstrong. The story veers far from the original, but Ariel herself is still very much the same. Which is good, because if her character was changed liked the way Sebastion and Flounder seem to be, I definitely would not enjoy this much one bit. So just the fact that Ariel is there as a whole, makes the movie tolerable even if it isn't very good.

[Disney's Divinity]

He's not talking about Ariel's character/how the writers wrote her in TLM vs. TLM3, he's talking about the mermaid who jumped out of the water. Some people think she's Ariel, some (like myself) think otherwise.

I was only saying that, if Ariel is never shown going to the surface in this film, that doesn't mean she isn't the Ariel we know and love. It just means they're trying to tell us a different story that isn't quite related to that part of her life.

I can't comment on any changes in character of Sebastian and Flounder at this point. I'll give my opinion once I've seen the movie itself.

[Atlantis]

Despite the fact that this is a prequel, Peggy felt it was necessary to bring a modern feel into the story. This is done through the use of music, which is illustrated through the scene where Ariel meets Flounder, who impresses her with his beatboxing skills, forging a musical bond between the soon-to-be best friends.

Good intentions, but I hate it.

Other than that, it was a pretty good interview. Thanks for sharing!

Ya have to agree. While TLM had good songs, to me that wasnt what the movie was about, it was just an extension of the charecters. Espically since singing didnt seem to be that big in the original or sequel. It was more the law that everyone was forbidden to go to the surface. Which this film should have dealt with half the time since its so big in the first two movies. So having it be such a huge part in the prequel isnt the greatest thing, I have lived with it.

[Old Fish Tale]

Thanks! Great article!

[Old Fish Tale]

Any new clips?

[Atlantis]

nope. I doubt they will release anymore clips since they already released so many.

[WillytheDino]

This may sound stupid, but maybe, MAYBE there's a scene with Ursula or whatever in the deleted scenes.
We know there are some deleted scenes, so maybe Ursula is in them, because the creators of the movie didn't want the new and young audience to be distracted from AB by bringing in Ursula for like two minutes.

Maybe.

Oh, and maybe the mermaid who's jumping out of the water (which is Ariel, I'm sure) is also a deleted scene

Or maybe these two scenes are after the credits.

[Disney Duster]

While the original movie focused on following your heart, Peggy feels that "it was important to illustrate that music equals love.

Right. So when Ariel sacrifices her ability to sing to get the kiss of true love from a prince...huh?!

Atlantis, for once I completely agree with you in regards to how music was in the original film (look how it was treated by Ariel, missing rehearsals, the concert, giving up her voice!) and how this music plot is totally unlike the first film and instead it should have focused on Ariel's love for humans...and Ursula's hate for Triton.

[Disney's Divinity]

Right. So when Ariel sacrifices her ability to sing to get the kiss of true love from a prince...huh?!

Considering that ends in disaster, I think the first film makes it pretty clear that it was a mistake on her part. Her sacrifice is noble in the sense that she did sacrifice for love, but she shouldn't have to give up who she is just for her man to love her. After all, he loved her because of her voice (and all that it implies).

it should have focused on Ariel's love for humans...and Ursula's hate for Triton.

And then we would have...the exact same movie. It's strange because, for the longest time, people have complained about sequels being copies of their predecessors. And now that we have a DTV that dares to give us something new, it gets bashed before it's even hit the shelves. Talk about your mixed signals.

Don't get me wrong, you have every right to hate this movie (and its supposed competition with Twist in Time...?), but it seems like you keep giving reasons why we should all hate it when I don't think those are very good reasons at all.

[yukitora]

^I don't he's so much as giving us reasons to hate the film, but rather questioning Peggy's philosophy behind her film and her portrayal of Ariel's love for music.)

(Though I could be totally wrong, if so, sorry Disney Duster )

[Kyle]

And now that we have a DTV that dares to give us something new, it gets bashed before it's even hit the shelves. Talk about your mixed signals.

I think being different is fine, but the very idea of music being banned is just so preposterous that its just too lame to base a whole movie on. the suggested story line is at least easier to grasp.

[Ariel'sprince]

You can go to the Ariel and her sisters's blog even if you don't have the DVD? or you can go there only with the DVD?.