What's all this madness? Ariel doesn't have a mom! If she does then what was she playing at during the first film, letting her daughter and husband getting caught up in a sea hag mess.
Oooo! Or is Ursula Ariel's mom? That would be a great twist. Ursula and Triton have Ariel then Triton says, "aha, I have children, now be gone ugly hag!" and that's why Ursula hates him and wants to turn him into one of those ugly wilting statue things, she doesn't care about being Queen really.
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Re: The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning
hmmm.... I don't really know. I can tell you that the first 3 pics are from the opening scenes of the movie. The last one looks like Ariel.... but I don't think there's any part of the movie in which Ariel goes to the surface, other than as a baby.Disney Duster wrote: Now the question: Is the mermaid that jumps out of the water in the last picture the mermaid that was in the three other pictures with the blue tail and brown hair, or our green-tailed red-haired Ariel? Or some other mermaid? Though I bet it's hard for you to remember!
oh come on...Triton is a king, do you think he would go to an ugly sea hag to get come children when he could have anyone else.Jeffel wrote:What's all this madness? Ariel doesn't have a mom! If she does then what was she playing at during the first film, letting her daughter and husband getting caught up in a sea hag mess.
Oooo! Or is Ursula Ariel's mom? That would be a great twist. Ursula and Triton have Ariel then Triton says, "aha, I have children, now be gone ugly hag!" and that's why Ursula hates him and wants to turn him into one of those ugly wilting statue things, she doesn't care about being Queen really.
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Jeffel, pretty funny, but actually it would be very, very interesting if Ursula was Ariel's mom.
Well, thank you Poody, I guess it's another reason to watch the film myself!
Well, thank you Poody, I guess it's another reason to watch the film myself!
Well first of all thank you Poody for sharing everything!
but...
Oh no, no, say it ain't so! Your joking right? Is all what you said about TLMAB an elaborate April Fools day joke??? BUT IT'S NOT APRIL! What shall we do? Whats the world coming to!?! Okay...spaz attack stops here.
Welps. It appears the Ursula ship has sailed, since shes not even in it or mentioned for that matter! and Nachoncaco is going to slap someone, and Disney's Divinity is going to have a fit once they find out that Disney went through the trouble of creating a totally random new purple diva. And! To top it off! that dang mermaid still remains a mystery! And I was hoping to be right with my Ariel theory.
-_- ugh, now Disney has to make a fourth little mermaid movie explaining what happens between this one and the first one! With Ariel's growing love for humans and what happens to Ursula, and have that Prince in it! And no new dodo characters! The original cast is just FINE! A perfect oppurtunity for a good pre-qual....diminished...
Well I guess I shouldn't be so pessmistic...who knows I might actually like this movie with ripped characters from the original. On the plus side, at least the animations nice right? And Ariel's sisters have a big role? Oh who am I kidding? It's still just a Disney DTV lol. Cheers UD
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Oh no, no, say it ain't so! Your joking right? Is all what you said about TLMAB an elaborate April Fools day joke??? BUT IT'S NOT APRIL! What shall we do? Whats the world coming to!?! Okay...spaz attack stops here.
Welps. It appears the Ursula ship has sailed, since shes not even in it or mentioned for that matter! and Nachoncaco is going to slap someone, and Disney's Divinity is going to have a fit once they find out that Disney went through the trouble of creating a totally random new purple diva. And! To top it off! that dang mermaid still remains a mystery! And I was hoping to be right with my Ariel theory.
-_- ugh, now Disney has to make a fourth little mermaid movie explaining what happens between this one and the first one! With Ariel's growing love for humans and what happens to Ursula, and have that Prince in it! And no new dodo characters! The original cast is just FINE! A perfect oppurtunity for a good pre-qual....diminished...
Well I guess I shouldn't be so pessmistic...who knows I might actually like this movie with ripped characters from the original. On the plus side, at least the animations nice right? And Ariel's sisters have a big role? Oh who am I kidding? It's still just a Disney DTV lol. Cheers UD
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I am so happy for you Poody ! Its so wonderful that you got to see the movie early, and I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it. I'm trying to avoid the temtation of reading all of your white writing posts, as I dont want to spoil it for myself!
Disney Duster, I'm sad that you are still so negative about this movie. I think whole-hearted judgement should be reserved until the movie has been seen in full, and then feel free to bash away. I know it does not have the most complicated plot; but anyone who knows The Little Mermaid universe can see how this follows on from the the various spin - offs from the movie. The series was fun and light - hearted, RTTS was extremely basic, but still told the story that the film - makers felt needed to be told, Ariel's various songs etc are again uncomplicated. The creators of the original movie said they wanted to make a simple fairy tale, and that they did. Of course we love the orginal, and the film has many layers to it etc etc, but TLM is simple at its core, its not a complex universe.
What AB may actually give us though is more depth to the first film; why music is so precious to Ariel, why Triton seems to favour his youngest daugher above her sisters, and just why the world above is so hated by Triton as well. A movie based on this seems to answer so many questions that I had, and I am delighted to be able to finally get some answers. It may not have Ursula (I am completely unsure as to why they have chosen not to use her), and the villian may not be 'a big bad', but the film seems as if it is going to give so much else !
Of course I am biased, as you are Disney Duster with Cinderella, but I am willing to watch this last DTV with an open mind. It might be awful, but from what I've seen so far, it doesnt seem as if it will be. The animation, colours, songs, voices are all wonderful. This movie should not be compared constantly to Cinderella III; they are two compleatly different entities, and should be viewd as such. The animation is certainly on a level with eachother, but other than that, they dont have that much else in common !
Anyway, I just hope that you can open your mind about this film Disney Duster. And I really hope you will watch it when it comes out, as it will be the last time that we see an original Disney Princess in a DTV !
Disney Duster, I'm sad that you are still so negative about this movie. I think whole-hearted judgement should be reserved until the movie has been seen in full, and then feel free to bash away. I know it does not have the most complicated plot; but anyone who knows The Little Mermaid universe can see how this follows on from the the various spin - offs from the movie. The series was fun and light - hearted, RTTS was extremely basic, but still told the story that the film - makers felt needed to be told, Ariel's various songs etc are again uncomplicated. The creators of the original movie said they wanted to make a simple fairy tale, and that they did. Of course we love the orginal, and the film has many layers to it etc etc, but TLM is simple at its core, its not a complex universe.
What AB may actually give us though is more depth to the first film; why music is so precious to Ariel, why Triton seems to favour his youngest daugher above her sisters, and just why the world above is so hated by Triton as well. A movie based on this seems to answer so many questions that I had, and I am delighted to be able to finally get some answers. It may not have Ursula (I am completely unsure as to why they have chosen not to use her), and the villian may not be 'a big bad', but the film seems as if it is going to give so much else !
Of course I am biased, as you are Disney Duster with Cinderella, but I am willing to watch this last DTV with an open mind. It might be awful, but from what I've seen so far, it doesnt seem as if it will be. The animation, colours, songs, voices are all wonderful. This movie should not be compared constantly to Cinderella III; they are two compleatly different entities, and should be viewd as such. The animation is certainly on a level with eachother, but other than that, they dont have that much else in common !
Anyway, I just hope that you can open your mind about this film Disney Duster. And I really hope you will watch it when it comes out, as it will be the last time that we see an original Disney Princess in a DTV !
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I don't think I'll go that far. I was very open to the fact that Marina could not be Ursula, I was just irritated that people didn't see it as even possible when it could have very well turned out that way. And, unlike some, I'm not going to write off this sequel as crap just because there isn't a death-bringing, 90s-style villain to give Ariel problems. Many of Disney's theatrical films have no true villains, but that doesn't guarantee a bad movie. Besides a couple spoilers like this one, I've been avoiding the videos with music and clips, etc. because I don't want to spoil this for myself.Disney's Divinity is going to have a fit once they find out that Disney went through the trouble of creating a totally random new purple diva.
As for the joke that Ursula could be Ariel's mom, well... The original could actually be read that way (just through character motivations). Ursula - the divorced mother who manipulates the daughter she lost to her ex-husband in order to get anything she wants out of him. Many divorcee's do that (see K-Federline).
Wait...can divorcee mean divorced men, too? Ah well.
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Thank you Poody for the answers! I truly appreciate it.
My Thoughts:
I’ll admit, I am furious that Ursula is not even mentioned in this film. I just cannot believe why Disney would go through all the trouble of creating a new villainess. It seems that Marina is a big homage to Ursula. It may even be implied that after this film, somewhere down road Marina became Ursula. It would make sense since Ursula says in the original film “I remember my days in the palace”. I truly believe that, although not said in the film, Marina is Ursula. That’s why Marina is so similar to our favorite purple diva. I almost feel that it’s implied that somewhere down the line marina becomes Ursula.
My Thoughts:
I’ll admit, I am furious that Ursula is not even mentioned in this film. I just cannot believe why Disney would go through all the trouble of creating a new villainess. It seems that Marina is a big homage to Ursula. It may even be implied that after this film, somewhere down road Marina became Ursula. It would make sense since Ursula says in the original film “I remember my days in the palace”. I truly believe that, although not said in the film, Marina is Ursula. That’s why Marina is so similar to our favorite purple diva. I almost feel that it’s implied that somewhere down the line marina becomes Ursula.
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I"m glad to see sweepstakes but those prizes are lame (Exept the Broadway things),why there's Broadway and not Ariel's Beginning? more looks like the musical's sweepstakes inted of Ariel's Beginning sweepstakes.
Enchanted Calls? can't they come up with something more original?.
Well,I think that the Enchanted sweepstakes were better,the Enchanted Tales sweepstakes were really great.
but those prizes are lame (Exept the Broadway things),why there's Broadway and not Ariel's Beginning? more looks like the musical's sweepstakes inted of Ariel's Beginning sweepstakes.Enchanted Calls? can't they come up with something more original?.
Well,I think that the Enchanted sweepstakes were better,the Enchanted Tales sweepstakes were really great
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I hate writing so much but I wanted to say a lot.
Aw, atlantica, you trying to forgive me of my bashing and trying to get me to share in the happiness of this movie is touching. I'm glad you're my friend on here. Well, I only compare this film to Cinderella III because lots of other people have, saying it will be better than that film made me very mad, and Poody saying it didn't have as good/dramatic things as that film, but still saying it was as good, really bothered me. In fact, everyone saying the animation is on par with Cinderella III bugs me, too. People I talked to online who know a lot about animation, even doing some themselves, said the animation wasn't as good as DisneyToon Studios was, and from some of what I've seen, some looks bad. I admit it isn't awful, and it's rather beautfiul when Ariel sings her song in that clip, but I won't stand for people saying the animation is as good when it's not the same, it's out-sourced, and DisneyToon Studios worked so hard and practiced for so long to get such good animation for Cinderella III, and they made some that almost looked exactly like the original.
You know, Atlantica, you actually made me think, and I can see why the movie may be good. You said the original was simple and not complex, but I disagree, and actually the parts with Athena and the humans in this story adds a new complexity to the original! But I have a problem with the rest of the plot not really touching on what else happens in the original film. If Ariel fought to bring music back to Atlantica, why does she miss rehearsals and the concert itself to explore her much deeper love, for the world above? Why does she give up her beautiful voice for a chance to be on land?
I am so against the random music plot because it sounds like a TV plot and this is supposed to be a movie, not a TV episode, and it sounds like "The Sound of Music" and "Footloose". If they kept Ariel's mother's plot but focused the rest of the plot on Ariel discovering her mother, what happened to her, and then humans, then that would be better and way more akin to the original. Maybe she could even find out her mother forgave humans because what they did was accident, even though her father doesn't believe her (but Flounder or others do). It would be really nice to know how Ariel can love humans after what happened with her mom, and if she never finds out what happened to her mom...well, that would bother me and it would make the sequel less exciting. Then again, I guess it would be weird for neither Triton nor Ariel to bring up Athena when fighting about humans in the original movie.
I also don't like how this film is messing with the characters. Sebastian and Triton love music, but according to this film is maybe for only a year or two after it was banned. But more than that, Sebastian and Flounder go against the King's rules, and both are bold and brave before they meet Ariel, which is almost the opposite of how they were the original film until Ariel urged them to help her.
BUT I will watch it, I do like Ariel and her beautiful voice, and I want to find out what happens to Athena. And, I'm hoping for little surprises, especially ones possibly not revealed in earlier showings of the movie. So I will await official judgement, to say whether I like the movie or not, till I see it. So I'm crossing my fins!
Aw, atlantica, you trying to forgive me of my bashing and trying to get me to share in the happiness of this movie is touching. I'm glad you're my friend on here. Well, I only compare this film to Cinderella III because lots of other people have, saying it will be better than that film made me very mad, and Poody saying it didn't have as good/dramatic things as that film, but still saying it was as good, really bothered me. In fact, everyone saying the animation is on par with Cinderella III bugs me, too. People I talked to online who know a lot about animation, even doing some themselves, said the animation wasn't as good as DisneyToon Studios was, and from some of what I've seen, some looks bad. I admit it isn't awful, and it's rather beautfiul when Ariel sings her song in that clip, but I won't stand for people saying the animation is as good when it's not the same, it's out-sourced, and DisneyToon Studios worked so hard and practiced for so long to get such good animation for Cinderella III, and they made some that almost looked exactly like the original.
You know, Atlantica, you actually made me think, and I can see why the movie may be good. You said the original was simple and not complex, but I disagree, and actually the parts with Athena and the humans in this story adds a new complexity to the original! But I have a problem with the rest of the plot not really touching on what else happens in the original film. If Ariel fought to bring music back to Atlantica, why does she miss rehearsals and the concert itself to explore her much deeper love, for the world above? Why does she give up her beautiful voice for a chance to be on land?
I am so against the random music plot because it sounds like a TV plot and this is supposed to be a movie, not a TV episode, and it sounds like "The Sound of Music" and "Footloose". If they kept Ariel's mother's plot but focused the rest of the plot on Ariel discovering her mother, what happened to her, and then humans, then that would be better and way more akin to the original. Maybe she could even find out her mother forgave humans because what they did was accident, even though her father doesn't believe her (but Flounder or others do). It would be really nice to know how Ariel can love humans after what happened with her mom, and if she never finds out what happened to her mom...well, that would bother me and it would make the sequel less exciting. Then again, I guess it would be weird for neither Triton nor Ariel to bring up Athena when fighting about humans in the original movie.
I also don't like how this film is messing with the characters. Sebastian and Triton love music, but according to this film is maybe for only a year or two after it was banned. But more than that, Sebastian and Flounder go against the King's rules, and both are bold and brave before they meet Ariel, which is almost the opposite of how they were the original film until Ariel urged them to help her.
BUT I will watch it, I do like Ariel and her beautiful voice, and I want to find out what happens to Athena. And, I'm hoping for little surprises, especially ones possibly not revealed in earlier showings of the movie. So I will await official judgement, to say whether I like the movie or not, till I see it. So I'm crossing my fins!
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