Wish

[Disney's Divinity]

I don't think he sounds any different than a Frollo, who was still a traditional villain despite believing he was the morally righteous one. And I don't think he'll be redeemed either, since one of the quotes in your post D82 mentions that there comes a point of no return for Magnifico eventually.

@TheDisneynerd: I don't think a billion is factually impossible for an animated film to reach near billion level these days even if it feels unlikely for Wish. I mean, you bring up Minions 2 in your next paragraph, that one was just shy of a billion. Mario did over a billion.

[The Disneynerd]

@TheDisneynerd: I don't think a billion is factually impossible for an animated film to reach near billion level these days even if it feels unlikely for Wish. I mean, you bring up Minions 2 in your next paragraph, that one was just shy of a billion. Mario did over a billion.

AHHH stupid Disneynerd!!! HOW COULD I FORGOT THE MARIO MOVIE??? sorry for screaming but this also proves the point that Illumination IS in its peak (and a threat for Wish) and indeed probably the most Successful animation studio the last years, because unlike every other Studio, Illumination doesnt get critizised for being "woke" or controversial in any way etc and gets therefore even praised! (unfortunately) givng them an advantage for families thinking all there films are harmless and watchable. And No I didnt say that its impossible for animated movies to reach 1B+, I just said that its unlikely for Wish, because it has for now NO advantages unlike every other BIG animated movie (Spiderverse and its critical acclaim, Mario and its worldwidefamous brand and Nostalgia etc). The BIGGEST advantage Wish could have for its boxoffice is only its short film, which definetely has Nostalgic appeal with ALL Disney characters being on the big screen, but the movie itself?...

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

@TheDisneynerd: I don't think a billion is factually impossible for an animated film to reach near billion level these days even if it feels unlikely for Wish. I mean, you bring up Minions 2 in your next paragraph, that one was just shy of a billion. Mario did over a billion.

AHHH stupid Disneynerd!!! HOW COULD I FORGOT THE MARIO MOVIE??? sorry for screaming but this also proves the point that Illumination IS in its peak (and a threat for Wish) and indeed probably the most Successful animation studio the last years, because unlike every other Studio, Illumination doesnt get critizised for being "woke" or controversial in any way etc and gets therefore even praised! (unfortunately) givng them an advantage for families thinking all there films are harmless and watchable. And No I didnt say that its impossible for animated movies to reach 1B+, I just said that its unlikely for Wish, because it has for now NO advantages unlike every other BIG animated movie (Spiderverse and its critical acclaim, Mario and its worldwidefamous brand and Nostalgia etc). The BIGGEST advantage Wish could have for its boxoffice is only its short film, which definetely has Nostalgic appeal with ALL Disney characters being on the big screen, but the movie itself?...

If the movie itself is as great as Grace Randolph, Big Screen Leaks, and ViewerAnon claim, it’ll be a hit.

[Disney's Divinity]

@Disneynerd: Idk, I think the film does have several advantages to make it a hit, but okay? I don't think the people who think Disney films are "dangerous" are a large group, much less a part of the audience that are usually drawn to their princess films. These are people who never liked Disney in the first place.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Disney’s bringing a special look of Wish to the Essence Festival of Culture in New Orleans this weekend: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/ ... ew-Orleans.

Looks like Disney is indeed continuing to market this movie as hard as they possibly can. I think it will work out in the end.

[Farerb]

Do you think that Asha and Dahlia are more than BFFs? They'll probably keep it vague, won't they?

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Do you think that Asha and Dahlia are more than BFFs? They'll probably keep it vague, won't they?

We’ll see.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

https://www.slashfilm.com/1319611/walt- ... interview/

[Disney's Divinity]

Fawn Veerasunthorn... That's an interesting name. Hopefully Wish is a good one and she has a future ahead of her. I liked hearing Lee acknowledge how lacking in artistry most 3D films are, how they're often degrees off from where hand-drawn can hit.

[PatchofBlue]

what defines animation is it is truly transportive in a way that it speaks to your imagination, not to your reality

Jennifer Lee, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm still at kind of a stalemate with this movie, but it has been slowly inching toward my favor, which is a promising sign.

The animation is actually one of the things I'm still not sold on. I'm glad the "Paperman" animation is finally getting the full feature-film treatment, but a part of me does wonder if they're letting the bull out now because it's actually ready or if they just want to hype up this specific film.

Just judging from the trailers, I really like how the wider landscape shots look. It's the more character-centric shots that I'm still not totally sold on. They look somewhere between regular unfinished CGI and a 2000s DTV Barbie film. I might like it better on the big screen in the full context of the finished film, but it's not quite there for me yet.

[Disney's Divinity]

I actually feel the opposite, tbh... Some of the long distance shots of backgrounds here and there have an almost static and flat look to me occasionally although I think it may have more to do with the colors and lighting chosen that gives off a sort of musty vibe in a way that reminds me of Hunchback, Tarzan, and TP at times. Nothing too bad of course, but hopefully will be a tad better in the finished product. I guess that makes sense considering how some of the overtures are to those movies (Magnifico and Asha being related to Frollo and Esmeralda by Lee at different points, Star to Morph). I say it may simply be the colors of particular shots though since the more colorful and pink / purple shots don't give me that feeling, while the ones that have colors more along the lines of faded browns, greens, and whites are the ones that gave me that impression.

Whereas most of the character shots look utterly gorgeous to me. Asha (DeBose) was a perfect design to debut this look with, the fine details of her hair with each individual braid, every nodule of every braid, standing out in a way that's just stunning and overwhelming in a similar way Spider-verse's animation did. I think she'll join Ariel and Pocahontas as another case where the hair is almost a character of its own, with the animation ending up just beautiful. I think Tarzan could've been similar if the design of that film didn't end up causing the edges of his hair to look so blob-like. Megara's, Calliope's, and Aurora's hair all come to mind as having a beautiful look to them thanks to their films' specific design, although they don't quite take on a life of their own in movement like with Ariel and Pocahontas.

[Kyle]

The animation is actually one of the things I'm still not sold on. I'm glad the "Paperman" animation is finally getting the full feature-film treatment, but a part of me does wonder if they're letting the bull out now because it's actually ready or if they just want to hype up this specific film.

Paperman still looks great to me. This might not be the most popular take here, but Wish to me looks like a straight to tv series, not a feature film from Disney.

[Farerb]

I agree, Kyle, but I read that some animators said that it was too expensive and it wouldn't be sustainable to do it for a feature. To me Paperman looks better than Spider-Verse, and yet I still prefer real hand drawn to it.

Wish feels like something between Far From the Tree and their usual CGI style. I think maybe people would have been more accepting of it had it been released before Spider-Verse, I also think that Disney themselves hyped the animation style too much, which led to people being disappointed in it eventually.

[Kyle]

Paperman required a lot of babysitting of each frame to get right, but so did spiderverse, and the other movies that it inspired recently, so I don't buy that it would be too expensive. Its a feature film, and Disney has Disney money. This is where you splurge.

Of course, I'd be perfectly fine "settling" for the hand drawn alternative. It would save them money after all.

[Thumper_93]

I don't know if this cover has been posted before. I've seen a few of them and the artworks look really cute. I pray for Mattel to make dolls with fabric clothes

https://www.amazon.com/Suzanne-Francis/ ... 375&sr=8-5

[D82]

First of all, sorry by advance for my english!
Second, be aware of possible SPOILERS below please!

Since the presentations given by Jennifer Lee in the past few days, including the one I attended at the Animation Festival in Annecy, France, I have been reading a lot of articles on the internet and social networks as well as speculations as to the story and characters of Wish.
It's nice to see that there's enthusiasm and a certain expectation for this film, even if I find that the atmosphere on this forum is sometimes unpleasant and doesn't really make me want to participate.
However, I will try to bring my point of view and my observations that I share with you in order to perhaps clarify a little more what is put in place in Wish.
My personal feelings do not let me think that Queen Amaya can be a Villain because her attitude is soft, and very passive, not to say faded.
I wouldn't be surprised if the King manipulates her like he manipulates the citizens of Rosas and that thanks to Asha, she ends up opening her eyes.
Concerning Magnifico (great voice by Chris Pine!), from what I could see, he is not an antagonist like Namaari can be (I haven't forgotten Raya and the Last Dragon whom I love a lot despite his flaws ) but he reminds me more of Mother Gothel as he seems complex at first and probably scary and dangerous at the end.
The king has a narcissistic evil side that may not be aware that he is doing wrong. His way of responding to Asha is alternately warm and intimidating, guilt-inducing, and you can clearly sense that he's going to get nastier and nastier.
When Asha is brought by the Queen to the room of the King who is also a magician, she begins to look at the objects there while waiting for the King to arrive for the interview.
We see a large book placed in a glass case and protected by a spell that Asha unintentionally provokes: the patterns in the shape of white petals on the glass come to life and turn into a swarm of insects (like mosquitoes or butterflies - note that the excerpts were not finalized!) which are agitated around Asha who struggles in all directions, even after Magnifico who has entered in the meantime has restored order.
When they talk and at one point, Asha explains that she lost her father when she was little because he was sick (we see drawings where Asha and her father from back on a branch of a tree, the one where she sings later...), Magnifico is compassionate since he too has gone through mourning and we see a tapestry on the wall of which a section at the bottom is burnt and we see a drawing, probably of Magnifico's family towards the top .
Cute little detail: Asha has an interesting side because although she has the attractions of all the Disney heroines (Anna, Rapunzel, Mirabel, etc.), she also has a certain candor while being very wise. For example, proud of herself, she shows the King a notebook where she has drawn a little goat that runs in the corner of a page and scrolls through the pages like a flipbook. So cute and funny.
The Magnifico song was not shown to us but the excerpt resumes after obviously and the spheres containing the wishes of the people are at Asha's height and she finds and holds her grandfather one and is touched. She then asks if it would be possible to realize the wish of Sabino who is celebrating her 100th birthday today during the vows ceremony which is just after. Magnifico reacts badly telling Asha that in fact she is interested, like everyone else and she is very embarrassed and intimidated. She insists however because Saba is old and he has waited so long and his wish (I don't know if this one is said because it is rather vague from memory) deserves to be carried out but the King says that the intention of the wish of her grandfather may be ill-intentioned and too dangerous, which Asha defends herself against.
The Queen interrupts them as the ceremony is about to begin and everyone is waiting. Asha is invited to sit next to them on stage but she has lost her joy and is suspicious.
The King begins his show as in the trailer and he begins by accepting the wishes of a young couple then he will choose a person to carry out his wish and after a little suspense, chooses a woman who wants to become a seamstress (she climbs on stage and the magic operates around her in the form of scissors then a fabric which turns around her and which is a nod to the fabric to make Aurora's dress because it twirls in the air with magic) . Everyone applauds, but we see Asha's family and friends disappointed because it seemed logical to grant an old man's wish.
The ceremony ends with Magnifico telling Asha that she is not being kept to be his apprentice.
Later, we find Asha, her mother and her grandfather having dinner at home (the scene recalls dinner at Mulan's) and it's very pretty. Asha wants to tell Sabino about her wish that she saw it and she can tell him what it is since people who offer their wish to the king in the hope that they will one day come true, is forget over time. He gets angry because he does not want to know because he would be too sad then since he is not realized it and he is now too old. Asha tries to convince her grandfather but he gets mad and asks her if she is trying to hurt him and she leaves the table then runs outside and that's where her song starts.
The song stays in mind and we can see Asha singing, running, going to the tree where she was going with her father and her hair is in the wind then a star in the sky lights up and its light radiates all Rosas and we sees the pleasant reaction that all the inhabitants feel (we also see Dahlia at her house, we see Asha's mother and the grandfather smile while going to see at their window) up to Queen Amaya who goes to see her husband in him asking if he saw and felt the same as her and he replies that it is a big deal or something and that he is very worried and upset.
Later, we see Asha and Valentino discovering Star manifesting without speaking and using a yarn in the trees to draw a star to explain who it is. Star is so funny in its mute acting and animation.
We see the part where Valentino starts talking thanks to Star, then all the animals of all kinds and sizes start talking to Asha too thanks to Star and another song, You're a Star, starts. Very typical of old Disney with all these animals everywhere which explain to Asha the common point that all living beings have in themselves: hope, desire. The hearts of each being light up in yellow and everyone sings, runs, gallops, etc. in short, the classic sequence! There are also talking trees which I found very creepy because of their design but the images were not finalized and I wondered if they were not a nod to the trees of Fun and Fancy Free but I'm not sure.
At the end of the song, a bear and a deer talk to each other saying it's nice that they didn't eat each other (the bear calls the deer Bambi I believe).
Overall, the fully finalized shots look very beautiful and the rendering doesn't shock me and looks nicer when the trailer. I don't know if it's because I saw the excerpts on a big screen.
The sets are superb, very similar to those of Snow White and Sleeping Beauty. The characters are classic and reminiscent of those of the Hunchback of Notre-Dame, perhaps because of the medieval outfits.
Asha is a pretty heroine and the audience will love her for sure.
Before the clips, we saw several concept arts (most of them by Lisa Keene inspired by Gustav Tenngren), as well as final poses or concept arts of the various main characters including a test animation with Asha's friends, The Teens, which shows everyone's personality by walking towards each other and forming a group. Dahlia has a wooden cane and she is Asha's best friend (we see a pose where they are both).
Queen Amaya is Caucasian, beautiful, classic, with an outfit in the same colors and patterns as the King, and her hair is hidden by a medieval headdress (I don't know the word, but she has "macaroons" on her ears).
The Artbook should be superb I think because the visuals, the designs and especially the backgrounds are a feast for the eyes (the house of Asha and her family is too cute).

I hope this will bring you a little more information in addition to the feedback from other people on the internet.
For my part, I have of course always been a fan of Disney Animation and I am as excited by this project as by the previous ones.

Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed description of the footage, Prince Kido! I really appreciate it. This is what I was hoping to find somewhere as I was sure a lot more was shown in the presentations than what was described in the articles since twenty minutes of footage is almost the first full act of the movie. Right now I don't have time, but I'll comment on some of the info you shared in a future post.

I don't know if this cover has been posted before. I've seen a few of them and the artworks look really cute. I pray for Mattel to make dolls with fabric clothes

https://www.amazon.com/Suzanne-Francis/ ... 375&sr=8-5

Yes, it has been posted, but it's OK. I think it's better to post something again if you aren't sure if it has than it not getting posted at all. Here are some new ones from Spain:


Source: https://www.amazon.es/Wish-deseos-Libro ... ref=sr_1_8


Source: https://www.amazon.es/Wish-deseos-Super ... ref=sr_1_7


Source: https://www.amazon.es/Wish-deseos-Disne ... ref=sr_1_6


Source: https://www.amazon.es/Wish-deseos-Prime ... ref=sr_1_4


I think the part in bold of this book synopsis is also new. I wonder if the "terrible secret" is what we already know about King Magnifico or if there's something else and in which way it could endanger the kingdom.

Asha is an intelligent, generous and determined teenager who lives with her family and her pet goat in the magical kingdom of Rosas. One day, Asha discovers a great injustice and makes a wish so strong and selfless that a star comes to her aid. The charismatic King Magnifico hides a terrible secret that will endanger the kingdom and all its inhabitants.

Source: https://www.amazon.es/Wish-deseos-pel%C ... ref=sr_1_5

[DisneyFan09]

Thanks for posting those covers, D82! I love them all!

[Disney's Divinity]

I especially like the second to last one, the one where Star is holding the string of wool. So cute!

[Prince Kido]

New image of Asha, Star, Valentino, King Magnifico and Queen Amaya featured on an italian upcoming puzzle from Clementoni.
The new poses of Asha holding Star and Queen Amaya were shown at Annecy's festival.

[UmbrellaFish]

Queen Amaya’s design looks great! What a beautiful medieval Queen!