Frozen: Part III

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:40 am

robster16 wrote:In the same clip, the same shot, just when he drives around the corner you can see more artwork on the wall behind him. In the far right at the first frame of the show you can see a color drawing of a reindeer, surrounded by smaller black and white renderings. Then two doors, then there is a snowflake cutout on the wall above the number by the door and two large small rectangle banner type looks at two castles I think. Then more of what look like details of the towers of the castle of the snow queen, towers made of ice. and in the lower left corner of the wall a drawing of what appears to me like two characters climbing a mountain or a cave of ice, probably Anna and Kristof...

Can someone get stills of these? the lights are too bright to see the pictures.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:11 am

qindarka wrote:I've noticed that this has popped up on at least two other sites as well. Pretty much confirms my suspicions that people are primarily taking info from this site, and Sotiris in particular.

This has been going on for years. I've noticed a long time ago. From Tumblr to other message boards to even respectable blogs and websites. I don't really mind although it would be nice if they gave credit or linked back to this forum once in a while.

robster16 · Post by **robster16** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:26 am

1. Two banner like images, which appear to be details of the two castles, the summery castle of Anna's world and the winter castle of Elsa's world.

2. Snowflake cutout.

3. forgot to number three in the picture, so disregard this haha.

4. Appears to be two characters climbing a wall/mountain or travelling through a cavern of ice.

5. A tower of ice.

6. another tower of ice, or a picture of Else on her throne of ice.

7. Drawings of Sven the reindeer

8. Drawings of Olaf the snowman

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:33 pm

Yes, thank you! Ah, Disney is trying to be so secretive. But as they learned in the "leaked" posters, we always find a way.

DisneyEra · Post by **DisneyEra** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:52 pm

Look at what it's come to people. Here we are looking at blurry images to Frozen off a cell phone ad! I just think this is ridiculous that we have to go through this just to see new images for Frozen. I think it's best if we just wait til June when the 1st trailer drops. We went through this with WIR last year at this time "even though WIR had much more images officially released at this time", all the why til June! If any of you wanna keep looking for Frozen info this why, you gotta do what you gotta do, but i'm just gonna wait til Disney officially release new images.

Oh, & look at this image from Deviant art for Frozen:
http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=5&q ... d=37a96874

The artist completely disregards Elsa leaked poster design & goes with the old concept art Snow Queen look! He/She will be disappointed when the trailer drops in June.

Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:15 pm

DisneyEra wrote: Oh, & look at this image from Deviant art for Frozen:
http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=5&q ... d=37a96874

The artist completely disregards Elsa leaked poster design & goes with the old concept art Snow Queen look! He/She will be disappointed when the trailer drops in June.

He/she has better taste and judgement on which is the superior snow queen.

Also on her tumbler she addressed that she already knows about the actual Elsa design. So it's not like she's clueless on that news. She just prefer the one she drew which I agree with her.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:45 pm

disneyprincess11 wrote:Yes, thank you! Ah, Disney is trying to be so secretive. But as they learned in the "leaked" posters, we always find a way.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:39 am

www.disneyanimation.com has been updated with Frozen added to the home page. Maybe a sign that new material is coming our way?

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:02 pm

I've had it with that site. They went through all the bother of redesigning it a few months ago, only to copy and paste all the old information - typos and all. The Sword in the Stone and 101 Dalmatians are still listed as The Sword and the Stone and 101 Dalmations.

There's no information on past films - just dated links to the main Disney site, and no mention of the shorts.

The Pixar site, on the other hand, is just excellent. I don't think the same designers worked on the WDAS site.

EDIT: Joy to the world!

The typos in the film list have actually been corrected!! A minor improvement, but an improvement nonetheless.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:27 pm

Agreed about the site overall. They could make such a fantastic site, with a look at the history of the studio and it's films, but there isn't much there. I really like the design sense of the site, but I'd like to see it fleshed out.

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:58 pm

I personally like the design even though it can look sloppy and I have a good feeling about new concept art soon!

PatrickvD · Post by **PatrickvD** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:07 pm

SWillie! wrote:Agreed about the site overall. They could make such a fantastic site, with a look at the history of the studio and it's films, but there isn't much there. I really like the design sense of the site, but I'd like to see it fleshed out.

I'd like to see a page for each film with some info like cast/crew, concept art and history/trivia.

The studio has such a fantastic library, they should be more proud of it and advertise it through their webpage. Their history is richer and more interesting that PIXAR or DWA.

But the website is lacking.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:16 pm

PatrickvD wrote:I'd like to see a page for each film with some info like cast/crew, concept art and history/trivia.

Exactly. I think it would be great if they included a complete, complete filmography of the studio. Features, shorts, all of it. I think since Walt Disney Animation Studios is now officially the parent company of DisneyToon and Disney TV, it should include all of that work as well.

If they ever expect Disney Animation to be viewed as a concrete "brand" again, as Pixar is viewed today, they need some kind of organization for all their projects.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:18 am

SWillie! wrote:I think since Walt Disney Animation Studios is now officially the parent company of DisneyToon and Disney TV, it should include all of that work as well.

Although DisneyToon Studios has been reporting to WDAS since the Pixar merger, Disney Television Animation reports to the Disney Channel which is part of the Disney-ABC Television Group.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:52 am

Sotiris wrote:
SWillie! wrote:I think since Walt Disney Animation Studios is now officially the parent company of DisneyToon and Disney TV, it should include all of that work as well.
Although DisneyToon Studios has been reporting to WDAS since the Pixar merger, Disney Television Animation reports to the Disney Channel which is part of the Disney-ABC Television Group.

I guess I should check my facts better! I see you're right. I assumed both Toon and TV were treated the same because at all the events that WDAS attends (festivals, expos, etc) all three studios are treated as one on all the materials, reviews, panels, etc. For instance, you fill out a generic "application" that has all three studio logos across the top.

Anyways, even if they aren't "officially" a subsidiary of WDAS, they are still "Disney Animation", and I think Disney needs to explore ways they might strengthen that brand.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:08 am

SWillie! wrote:Anyways, even if they aren't "officially" a subsidiary of WDAS, they are still "Disney Animation", and I think Disney needs to explore ways they might strengthen that brand.

I'd rather they remain separate. I - and other fans, I'm sure - wouldn't like the product from all of the studios be jumbled together and branded as "Disney Animation".

In fact, I think it would damage the image of WDAS and Pixar rather than strengthen it since the product of the TV and DTV units is of much lower quality than their theatrical counterparts.

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:42 am

Well no, I don't think jumbling everything together would be the answer either. I would keep the product separate and organized but within a larger umbrella of "Disney Animation." So, speaking in terms of the website that sparked these thoughts - you'd go to disneyanimation.com and there would be separate tabs or sections for each studio, which would then have pages for each of their films, shows, etc. With a description of each studio and it's purposes, they could keep the product separate but still strengthen the brand of Disney Animation.

My thinking behind this is that, while you're definitely right that the quality is much lower for Toon and TVA, creating a stronger brand would naturally lead to stronger product throughout all three studios. I think this process has actually already begun - we've seen a drastic improvement in DisneyToon quality and I think the shows being done right now by TVA are some of the best in years. I think a lot of that has to do with the synergy between studios that seems more pronounced in the last few years.

Plus the fact that the general public probably isn't even aware that there are separate studios in the first place - I don't think it would hurt the brand in the long run.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:03 am

SWillie! wrote: I would keep the product separate and organized but within a larger umbrella of "Disney Animation." So, speaking in terms of the website that sparked these thoughts - you'd go to disneyanimation.com and there would be separate tabs or sections for each studio.

I think it would be best if they just created separate websites for each studio instead.

SWillie! wrote:Plus the fact that the general public probably isn't even aware that there are separate studios in the first place - I don't think it would hurt the brand in the long run.

That's exactly the reason why it would hurt the brand. They would be reinforcing the misconception that some of the public already has. A recent example is Planes. Although it is produced by DisneyToon Studios, Pixar is the one getting all the blame and backlash just like WDAS was with the DTV sequels.

Branding the studios together would only blur the lines even more and create consumer confusion.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:11 am

Concept art for Elsa:

Source: Total Licensing Australia

SWillie! · Post by **SWillie!** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:14 am

I could see it going either way, depending on how it was done. I really think there is potential for a brand of "Disney Animation" if done correctly with the right ideas and right audience in mind. But I could see it potentially hurting the image as well.

But funny you use Planes as an example, as I was thinking of that film as an example as to why it might be a good idea to have everything under a single brand. If DisneyToon is being held to the same standard as WDAS, then they will be more likely to create a better product. Going by the minimal signs we have so far, it seems Planes is actually going to be at least fairly good quality. But since it will cause all kinds of confusion (it's a Pixar movie? It's not?) it might be better to simply have everything under one banner, so as to keep the misconceptions and confusion to a minimum. If all the studios are held to the same standard, I think everybody's better off.

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