Saludos Amigos & Three Caballeros new on Disney DVD in A

[Lars Vermundsberget]

Obviously, Disney's not trying to please hard-core fans anymore. They pretty much stopped trying a long ways back.

Well, I guess a "perfect" edition of the Latin American films could be sold to most of the Walt Disney Treasures crowd.

[MarcChris]

Is the announced "Walt Disney Interview" anything up to now never released?

[Escapay]

Is the announced "Walt Disney Interview" anything up to now never released?

It could be something from "Disneyland". Did Walt ever talk about the Latin American films on that show?

This sucks. Nothing from the laserdisc aside from "South of the Border with Disney" is carried over.

I wasn't really expecting anything, but DVD buyers love deleted scenes, so Disney should have at least included the laserdisc material about "The Hornero Bird", "A Brazilian Symphony: Caxanga", and "The Laughing Gauchito". And maybe even a brief featurette about the cancelled "Cuban Carnival" which would have introduced a fourth caballero.

If I were to double-dip, I'd have to hold on to the old editions in order to keep the trailers. I'm about this close to splurging and buying the laserdiscs somewhere. Or trying to find someone who has it and put all the supplements on DVD and sell it to me.

Scaps

[Widdi]

That press release reinforces my decision not to buy this lame two movie on one disc set. Let the quest for the GC Saludos Amigos disc begin...

[disneyfella]

I kind of remember reading on this site about "The Archive Collection" and all of teh bonus features on each of the films included in that set. I can't seem to find them anywhere, and instead of starting a new thread asking for info, I was hoping someone would post a link to which thread talked about all of the bonuses included in the archive edition laserdiscs.

[Walt Forever]

Is the announced "Walt Disney Interview" anything up to now never released?

It could be something from "Disneyland". Did Walt ever talk about the Latin American films on that show?
Scaps

As far as I know the interview could be a part of "Walt Disney On Telescope" (Sep. 25th, 63). I remember seeing it on laserdisc - Walt was talking about his trip to south america and how the government came up with the idea of a shaking hands trip. He refused and suggested to do some films there. I think that the whole interview gives a good inside view of "Walt in his own words".

[BrandonH]

This new release is not an upgrade from the two GC discs from my perspective. Disney, if you want your fans to buy movies more than once, you have to include something substantive that the previous version did not have. How hard would it be to port the laserdisc extras to a new DVD release? Make it a two-disc set for $20, and the collectors will buy it.

[David S.]

I agree, definintely a missed oppurtunity as far as extras, considering what was on that laserdisc.

My excitement level about this disc will depend largely on whether or not Saludos Amigos will be unedited or suffer the indignity of being edited like the GC version.

If both films are unedited, I would consider this a minor upgrade, as we'd get the correct versions plus a WD interview (but sadly lose the trailers).

But even in the best case scenario of an unedited transfer for SA, I agree, this is nowhere near what the release could have been, bonus-wise.

EDIT - There is now a page on the official site for this release, basically echoing the press release, but it says the Walt Disney interview is from the CBC:

http://disneydvd.disney.go.com/moviefin ... 75603.html

Still no word on whether the films will be uncut. I'm also curious as to whether the transfers will be improved compared to the GC versions. The press release and website only mention a new 5.1 audio mix but don't say "new digital transfer" like they usually hype.

[Escapay]

I kind of remember reading on this site about "The Archive Collection" and all of teh bonus features on each of the films included in that set. I can't seem to find them anywhere, and instead of starting a new thread asking for info, I was hoping someone would post a link to which thread talked about all of the bonuses included in the archive edition laserdiscs.

I made this thread last year soon after SA/TTC went OOP, and it lists the ARchive Collection bonuses:

Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros - New Edition coming?

Also, there's a great laserdisc thread that was started by blackcauldron85 which also has some listings of laserdisc-exclusive material:

Disney movies on laserdisc
-Pay close attention to a post by Kelvin , as it has a list of links to laserdisc back covers, as well as the supplements for Alice in Wonderland.

Finally, there's the laserdisc database from DisneyInfo.

Scaps

[slave2moonlight]

Make it a two-disc set for $20, and the collectors will buy it.

IF it's an unedited version...

[reyquila]

Double dipping!!!! Yes!!!!

[Widdi]

Requila I have honestly never seen anyone get so excited about flushing money down the toilet.

Looks like SA: GC won't be dropping in price anytime soon. Since this release was announced the price actually appears to be increasing. Damn...

[Maerj]

Disney-

Who are the people who are going to want to purchase two trippy animated/live action movies from the 1940's? Maybe, just possibly hardcore Disney fans and collectors? Why not appeal to them by releasing these films, remastered and uncut? Also, there were a ton of extas on the laserdiscs, why not port em on over? It can't be that difficult.

[jeremy88]

Yaaaaayyyyyy! I'm so excited these are coming out again!!! And a two for one deal too! I've never or probably have seen but long forgotten both of them, so I'm going to make a double movie night when I get them. After I get those two then I'll only need like 5 or 6 more to have all of the DAC's.

I'm kind of bummed though...it seems like this release of the two have been significantly dummed down...I love original theatrical trailers...

Wait a second...the two movies are going to be on one disc?? I thought it was going to be like...two seperate discs in two seperate cases in one box or something....RIP OFF(technically not since I'm getting a two for one deal...I guess)!!!!!! Ah well, what am I complaining about? At least I'll finally have these movies right?? right? Oh who am I kidding, it's going to irk me knowing that there are DVD's with trailers!

[Matt]

Trailers are least of my worries! I would rather have bonus features worth wild like a making of, deleted scenes, music videos.
stuff like that.

[Escapay]

Also, there were a ton of extas on the laserdiscs, why not port em on over? It can't be that difficult.

To throw out a tired excuse that I don't even believe anymore: they're saving it for the Blu-Ray release?

I would rather have bonus features worth wild like a making of

If it's any consolation, "South of the Border with Disney" is pretty much a 33-minute promotional making-of for the films.

Still, I'm royally pissed that Disney has carried nothing over beyond the aforementioned featurette. I still have no idea what the Walt Disney CBC interview is and I'm grateful for its inclusion, but come on, Disney...you're also sitting on ALREADY-MADE bonus materials and you can't be bothered to transfer it digitally and slap it all on a second disc with even just a basic linear menu system?

Things like this can drive me to bootleggers. It's the content I'm after, I don't care if it comes from Disney DVD Plant #58 or from Bob in Cincinnatti.

Scaps

[2099net]

I don't actually think Disney are waiting for the Blu-ray release either. I used to think that they didn't really care about their Blu-ray releases (the recent Meet the Robinsons being a prime example - no matter what you may or may not think of the actual film, like Chicken Little it was an important release for Disney) but now, based on the Pixar titles and upcoming other announcements, I think Disney's push on Blu-ray exclusives is for innovation. And to be fair, some of the innovation they are experimenting with works, and some doesn't so much work.

However, I don't see Disney attempting to push SD archiveal featurettes made at the time of the original movies release or in the mid-80's for the Laser Disc. They aren't anything to do with the future of home entertainment (in Disney's eyes) they're the past.

They pretty much seem to have this mindset now with their DVD releases - notice how they would rather spend the time, effort and money making virtual kitten/puppy set-top games or stupid new pop-songs than pulling something out of the archives and putting it on the disc?

I think Disney think (and probably (almost) rightly after some research) that old 1950's soundbites and footage don't sell movies. A shame, because I personally think that there's room for both solid archive features and innovation.

I don't want want a Blu-ray release without any innovation. Buying into the "next generation" format means that as well as audio and visual quality which is the best possible, I expect some form of innovation... be it being able to view storyboards while watching the movie rather than in a gallery, having trivia pop-up at certain points of the film and letting me click to find out more or even a well done game for children (such as the car finder game on Cars). But considering how much storage space there is on Blu-ray, and considering how efficient the AVC compression codec is, there should also be room for historical content too (expecially on the animated classics which are rarely over 90mins).

Sleeping Beauty will be the make of break Blu-ray disc to see how Disney creates and promotes archive content on Blu-ray discs.

[UncleEd]

I don't think Disney cares about the film buff fans. I get told by my friends that this choices are too complicated for we mere fans and consumers to understand but I disagree. It would cost nothing to port over LD content yet they choose not to. Or they half ass it like Alice. I do not believe they are waiting for Blu Ray. I'm sure that when these films come to blu ray they will still be the half assed releases, if not more so, that we get today. Then we'll have idiotic moronic fools claim they're holding back for the next format and so on. The golden age for DVD was 2000-2002. After that the releases have been tween geared while leaving the collectors in the dust. Even the Treasures were better than they are now. Poo poo to Disney. After I have all their films on DVD I'm not upgrading to blu ray so the joke is on them. Ha!

[Timon/Pumbaa fan]

Make it a two-disc set for $20, and the collectors will buy it.

IF it's an unedited version...

You're really telling me that if it was the same release with just like 3 seconds of a cigarette added in you'd double-dip? I don't support Disney's censorship in this case, but I like to be conservative with my money and spend it reasonably on worth-wild things, and frankly, this edit doesn't do anything to change your viewing of the film. It's certainly not worth $20 to see Goofy hurt his lungs. Then again, you do a lot of questionable things.

[singerguy04]

Here's a personal theory...

I think something that people forget to take into acount is the price of the actual DVD disc and in the future the Bluray disc.

It'd be a huge waste of money on the companies part to not put as much as they can on the Bluray releases. The production of the discs at this time is expensive and if they release it without putting enough stuff on the disc then people wont understand why they are buying a disc that holds up to 5 times the amount of content as the DVD and paying $10-$20 more. They would lose a good amount of income if they didn't load these upcoming releases.

The DVD on the other hand is very common now, they can afford to dismiss it, because the DVD is now the standard release method. Disney is taking advantage of that, and it sucks but it's true. When DVD came out they had to proove it was better than VHS. so they added all these cool special features as a addition to the overall upgrade of quality in picture and sound. They'll have to do the same with Bluray in for it to succeed. I also have no doubt that when a new format starts making it's way into the playing field, then Bluray will start sucking, just like DVD has.