Best DVD Commentary Tracks

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netty wrote:
Escapay wrote: 6. The entire thing pretty much is a two-hour toy commercial held together by the thinnest of storylines and laughable performances.
But on the plus side, secretly, we all enjoy watching toy commercials don't we?
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It depends on the toy for me, netty. Batman & Robin is best taken in small doses than as a whole, at least for me. Divide it into like, five 25-minute episodes and it comes off more like the 1960s series, minus the "WHAM!" and "POW!" words.

Anyway, some of my favourite commentaries:

How Green Was My Valley (1940) audio commentary with actor Anna Lee (Bronwyn) and film historian Joseph McBride - one would think that Anna Lee would not have much to say, but she does contribute some good parts to this mainly-McBride commentary. I'm glad she was able to record a commentary in 2002 for this film, especially since she passed away a couple years later.

Laura (1944) audio commentary with Rudy Behlmer - a great example of nonstop talking that never becomes a "here's what's happening on the screen" narrative. Rudy is probably my favourite film historian when it comes to commentary tracks, and his track for this film, Casablanca, and Gone with the Wind rank among my favourites. There's another commentary on the DVD, featuring the film's composer David Raksin and film historian Jeanine Basinger, but I could never sit through it. Stick with Rudy's if you ever plan on picking up Laura.

Casablanca (1942) audio commentaries with Rudy Behlmer and Roger Ebert - both tracks are excellent and cover a lot of ground. One would think there's repetition of information between the two, but they both have a lot of unique material. Behlmer focuses more on the technical side of things (IIRC, he seems to have a stack of production documents and memos that he reads from) and so it's more informational and historical than the more conversational version of Ebert's, which looks at the film through a more critical and "how does it affect its audience?" perspective, while still giving out some valuable information on the production.

East of Eden (1955) audio commentary with film historian Richard Schickel - I'm not always fond of Schickel's commentaries (his commentary for 1949's Whirlpool put me to sleep) but he surprised me with this one. Well worth a listen, especially as he does not take a "it's an old movie, so it must always be good" approach and he isn't afraid to criticize a scene or two and discuss what's wrong/weak in it. Of course, he's not entirely negative during the entire film (an excellent, if flawed adaptation of Steinbeck's novel), but it's a rarity to come across a commentary track that is this honest and critical.

Sleeping Beauty (1959) audio documentary hosted by Jeff Kurtti, with comments by production designer/background artist Eyvind Earle, voice actor Mary Costa, supervising animator Ollie Johnston (Three Good Fairies), supervising animator Marc Davis (Maleficent), background artist Frank Armitage, Pocahontas director Mike Gabriel, and Pocahontast art designer Michael Giaimo - I get a lot of flak for saying this is an "audio documentary" rather than a commentary. But for me, a commentary is when people are sitting and watching a film live and commenting on what they're seeing (even if they're spliced in together from separate groups, like the Mary Poppins commentary). When it's like this, where a host is discussing the film and introducing audio excerpts, it functions more like a documentary, which is what I will call it. Anyway, regardless of what it is called, this is one of my favourites from Disney, right up there with the Aladdin commentaries and the Peter Pan audio documentary. I actually prefer it to the 2008 commentary, mainly because I felt the Maltin, Lasseter, and Deja track was a bit too praising rather than informative, even if they did use some of the interview excerpts from the 2003 track.

To Kill A Mockingbird (1962) audio commentary with director Robert Mulligan and producer Alan J. Pakula - it's not the most engaging of conversations, but one is glad for the information that they present, especially for a film of this calibre.

"Doctor Who" (1963-1989, 1996, 2005-present) audio commentaries by various members of cast and crew - the "Doctor Who" commentaries are a unique bunch. It's sometimes hard to listen to them (for me it seems that the older the story, the harder to listen to the commentary) but that's likely to do more with fading memories or just the fact that it was a job, not a way of life, for many participants. It's always fun listening to a Janet Fielding commentary, she's quite an abrasive and talky woman. Her comments aren't always related to the story (she prefers making fun of what she's watching) but it's just a hoot to listen to. If I had to pick my absolute favourite, it'd probably be the Tom Baker/Mary Tamm commentary for "The Ribos Operation", with the Frazer Hines/Deborah Watling commentary for "The Tomb of the Cybermen" a close second. From the new series, I really loved the cast commentary for "Last of the Time Lords" (even though I had to resort to netty sending me an mp3, then getting it again from the website). Loads of fun.

Mommie Dearest (1981) audio commentary with filmmaker and Mommie Dearest fan John Waters - he's not attached at all to the film, but he does make some cool comments throughout the track.

Legend (1985) audio commentary with director Ridley Scott - there's actually a commentary *scene index* that goes to specific topics he discusses. Scott often delivers excellent commentaries on his DVDs, and this one is probably my favourite (then again, Legend is my favourite of his films).

St. Elmo's Fire (1985) audio commentary with director Joel Schumacher - unfortunately, the guy is better known for being the killer of the Batman franchise than for some of his good films (St. Elmo's Fire, The Lost Boys, The Client, and A Time to Kill). His commentary here is not one of the most informative or best I've listened to, but it's still worth a listen. Would be cool if they ever revisit the movie (maybe a 25th Anniversary Edition in 2010) and include a new commentary with him and the cast, as well as a new retrospective documentary. Still, his commentary is pretty good.

When Harry Met Sally... (1989) audio commentary with director Rob Reiner, screenwriter Nora Ephron, and actor Billy Crystal (Harry Burns) - much better than Reiner's previous solo track (which had pauses galore). Stimulating conversations are usually better than a solo track, especially when the solo person doesn't have much to say because he's not being prompted to discuss things.

The Silence of the Lambs (1991) audio documentary with director Jonathan Demme, actors Anthony Hopkins (Dr. Hannibal Lecter) and Jodie Foster (Clarice Starling), screenwriter Ted Tally, and FBI Agent John Douglas - this was carried over from the Criterion laserdisc, and is one of the reasons I'm still holding onto my Criterion DVD (the MGM DVDs still don't have this audio track). It's a classic track, one done before audio commentaries became group discussion, and really analyzes the film from all points of view. One of the best commentaries ever done.

Shakespeare in Love (1998 ) audio commentary with director John Madden, and audio documentary with producers Donna Gigliotti and David Parfitt, screenwriters Marc Norman and Tom Stoppard, production designer Martin Childs, costume Designer Sandy Powell, cinematographer Richard Greatrex, and actors Ben Affleck, Judi Dench, Joseph Fiennes, Colin Firth, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Geoffrey Rush - the former is one of the best audio commentaries I've listened too (Madden's track for Proof is equally excellent as well). The latter is a very crowded track of pre-recorded comments. It's not screen-specific as it's an audio documentary, but is better than the 20-minute featurette that does serve as the film's documentary (where a few comments are repeated from the audio doc).

"Coupling: Jane and the Truth Snake" (2001) audio commentary with series creator Steven Moffat and actor Gina Bellman (Jane Christie) - the episode is one of my favourites of the series, and the commentary is also excellent as well.

Atonement (2007 audio commentary with director Joe Wright - like his Pride and Prejudice track, he's solo here, and he doesn't disappoint.

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I actualy enjoyed both Sleeping Beauty Commentaries, sure Mr. Maltin and company are praising here/there at various points. The 2003 commentary came off alil too informitive but it was still enjoyable.

Fantaisa's commentaries were very impressive, I loved it when they were discussing the Rite Of Spring (Dinosaur section) and Night On Bald Mountian. Wouldn't mind hearing a new commentary and the old ones on the new Platinum Edition.


Wonder who Disney would've hired aside from Mr. Maltin, Eric Goldberg, etc for the paltniums of Cinderella, Alice In Wonderland, 101 Dalmatians and Lady/Tramp.
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Mason_Ireton wrote:I actualy enjoyed both Sleeping Beauty Commentaries, sure Mr. Maltin and company are praising here/there at various points. The 2003 commentary came off alil too informitive but it was still enjoyable.
If an audio commentary wasn't informative, then what's the point in even having one?
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I didn't mind at it all.... it just came off alil too informitive that's all.... I still enjoyed the commentary but at the time I watched it (2003) it was too much info for me....
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I'm sure most would agree that a commentary track should be more informative than less informative, though.

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Escapay wrote:3. George Clooney as George Clooney, not George Clooney as Batman/Bruce Wayne. Horrible horrible casting decision.
That's the only one of your points I agree with. The other ones, I didn't mind so much.
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The TV Doctor Who commentaries are normally good. New Series Who are almost always worth a listen - and actually I think I prefer the podcast commentary to Last of the Time Lords 'pay - that's the one with the story about Phil Collingson and Michelle Collins going out for a night on the town, and then stopping to peer in RTD's flat window and see him slaving away on the script? I've never laughed so hard before upon hearing that story for the first time. RTD is always great on a commentary. "Hooray! Marvelous!"

Old Who are very mixed bags and it depends who's on it. But what's interesting is the commentaries, like the documentaries, can be master-classes in people's relationships and interactions. An excellent case in point (but there's many others) is the Warriors' Gate commentary with Lalla Ward and Chris Bidmead. It's clear from some of Lalla's comments, that she has no love for Bidmead or indeed Warriors' Gate. She doesn't say much, but when she does, can can be quite blunt about her feelings. This sort of honesty isn't normally found on mainstream film commentaries, which tend to be all lovey-lovey, peaches and cream..

I've got to give props to Rudy Behlmer (which I did in the Warner Bros Classic Releases thread) - I'm looking forward to hearing his How the West Was Won commentary. Tom Weaver, who mainly does "b" movie and period horror film commentary is always good, if a little enthusiastic (his writing in Universal Horrors: The Studio's Classic Films, 1931-1946 is great too).

As stated, I love Joe Dante's commentary tracks (but I also just love Joe Dante full stop).

I found the historical commentary on Alexander (take your pick, you've three films to choose from, all with slightly different historical commentaries from David Fox) fascinating too.
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I think the best DVD commentaries are whenever archival recordings of Walt Disney himself can be heard. rotfl
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The Simpsons Season Sets- The writers and creators seem to have a blast giving their views on the episodes they worked on.

UHF- I watched this movie with the commentary on all the way through, and I thought it was interesting. They talked about how unsuccessful the film was and how they felt working on it.

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The Simpsons season sets have great commentaries. There are only two exceptions when I HATE the commentaries:

1. Whenever a celebrity participates in the commentary. I hate it because the conversation is focused and wasted on the celebrity instead of talking about the actual episode (ex. Conan O Brian, Jon Lovitz, Gary Marshall). Sorry but if I want to learn about the celebrity I can look it up on wikipedia!

2. Season 12. I thought alot of the commentaries on this past season set were weak. I believe it's because they keep having 10-12 people participate in the commentaries per episode. This leads to a lot of unneccesary and disjointed discussion that barely relate to the episode. I should know because I was part of a DVD project where 30 people were trying to participate in the commentary at the same time. Bleh. Please cut down commentators to 4-6 people and have only those who were actually involved in the episode participate in the commentary for that episode.

Other than in those two incidences, the commentaries are usually enjoyable to listen and watch along.
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned Joss Whedon. Regardless if you love or hate his work, he does amazing commentaries on his own. There's hardly any dead air, and the guy does incorporate BTS information with witty anecdotes (especially in his Serenity commentary and for the first and final episodes of Buffy).

When he's paired up with cast and/or crew members, it tends to get sidetracked much of the time.
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I really like Bruce Timm's commentaries especially on Batman The Animated Series. I haven't completed most other commentaries though simply because I don't have the time. If I'm going to watch something it's usually going to be the movie.
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The best one I've seen (yes that's seen not heard) is for The Goonies.

It starts out in the studio. All the original Goonie child actors are present with Director Richard Donner. While the movie is played, the movie is minimized a few times so that you can see the actors in the studio. So far this is the only movie I've seen where the commentary is done like this. It's too bad they also didn't get the surviving Fratelli's (Robert Davi and Joe Pantoliano) involved too.
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I've yet to buy the disc, but I believe that the DVD and Blu-ray of the original "Fame" has a similar commentary format to the one for "Goonies".
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as for special features i have enjoyed most from my collections. from my actual movies, no tv/cartoon box sets, i've really enjoyed the Pixar special features as well as those in the earlier platinum editions. i also enjoyed the LWW features, but my favorites at the time are by far those found in the star wars episode 1-3 dvd's and my favorites are the one found in the extended editions of LOTR. i'm still missing many dvd's but for the ones i have seen those are my favorites.

as for the LOTR they really do in-depth. so much material is in those editions. still a bit that i haven't seen.
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My favorite commentary has to be the animator's commentary on the Aladdin DVD. The animators all had such great chemistry.
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