Moana 2

[Thumper_93]

Well, Belle was going to have a little sister as well. And both Nala and Pocahontas were going to have a little brothers, who were discarded.

Something I dislike from Disney movies set in the past in the only child trope, like that doesn't make any sense in that time context

Specially in Tangled, why would the monarchy not try to have another heir after their daughter is kidnapped as a baby (they had 18 years)

It's just a lazy way of not writing extra characters, like they dont need to have character development, just be there

Making Rapunzel's parents to have another child wouldn't have any sense. They tried hard to have Rapunzel, her mother almost died during the birth and after that their child is kidnapped. This would be very traumathic for any parent.
Also adding brothers without having any protagonism on the movie is absurd. Just remember Mulan's sister in the LA. She didn't apport anything to the story.

[Pokenonbinary]

Something I dislike from Disney movies set in the past in the only child trope, like that doesn't make any sense in that time context

Specially in Tangled, why would the monarchy not try to have another heir after their daughter is kidnapped as a baby (they had 18 years)

It's just a lazy way of not writing extra characters, like they dont need to have character development, just be there

Making Rapunzel's parents to have another child wouldn't have any sense. They tried hard to have Rapunzel, her mother almost died during the birth and after that their child is kidnapped. This would be very traumathic for any parent.
Also adding brothers without having any protagonism on the movie is absurd. Just remember Mulan's sister in the LA. She didn't apport anything to the story.

As I said the character can simply exist there, like we assume that Belle has or had grandparents, they don't appear in the movie but it's obvious she had or has, same for siblings, they can exist to show that she has a big family

But I agree with Tangled, I changed my opinion after thinking that the queen almost died with her pregnancy

[D82]

New book covers:


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And first look at some dolls and playsets:

3-Piece Figurine Set
Moana Large Doll
Moana and Maui Playset
Simea and Pua Playset
Catamaran Playset


Also, according to the description, an upcoming Moana singing doll from Mattel sings the song "Know Who You Are," but I don't know if it's the song from the first movie or a new one with the same title. It's also possible the title is not exactly the same since I translated it from Spanish.

Well, Belle was going to have a little sister as well. And both Nala and Pocahontas were going to have a little brothers, who were discarded.

Oh, you're right! I forgot about Belle's and Nala's little siblings. And I don't know if I even knew about Pocahontas' little brother. It's interesting that they've tried giving the protagonist a little sibling several times in the past.

It's true that, just like the single parent trope, the only child one also exists, even though people don't talk as much about it. The protagonist having human friends is not very common either; they tend to have animal sidekicks instead. I understand why they do all that, and in many cases I think they did the right thing story-wise, but I agree it would be nice if they changed things up a bit every once in a while and introduced more siblings in their films.

Personally, since I have four siblings, I tend to relate a lot to films where there are big families. It's one of the reasons I like the Narnia films so much. Like Pokenonbinary, I don't mind it that much if all the characters are not developed enough. I remember there were some complaints about that regarding Encanto, but I just loved they had a big family there and I think they captured the feeling of belonging to a large family quite well.

It's true that Moana 2 will have a significantly larger cast compared to the first film. Apart from Moana's sister or Pua now coming along for the ride, she and Maui will be joined by a whole crew. It hadn't occurred to me before, but it makes sense they added so many characters since this was originally a series and they had more time to develop each one there. Anyway, if they do it right, I think it doesn't have to be a problem.

Merida’s brothers, other than the novelty of it all, don’t really add anything to the plot, and I’m afraid Moana’s baby sister will be the same — just a cute character to make baby dolls/toys out of.

According to the directors, "Moana's mission to make a connection with another island takes on an even greater importance as she is trying to forge a better future for her little sister." So, in that way, she may be important to the story. We'll see how it's executed, but on paper it sounds good to me.

Moana looks way better than she looked when the first movie came out. They improved the design in my opinion. Maybe I'll buy the spanish "gran libro de la película"

I think I prefer how she looked in the first movie, but maybe it's because I'm used to her appearance there. I agree she still looks really good in the sequel, though. I like that they didn't change her design too much. Her new outfit is nice too, in my opinion. Well, she's seen in two different outfits in the trailers, but the other one is almost identical to the one in the first movie. Speaking of that, I wonder what version of the character they're going to use in the Disney Princess line or the parks from now on, the 16 year-old Moana or the 19 year-old one.

[Pokenonbinary]

The new girl I think is melanesian or Aboriginal from Australia

Or maybe she's mixed

She has a boomerang (australian) and a part of her hair is blonde like melanesian (everybody uses those poor blonde melanesian kids in twitter)

[Thumper_93]

I think that they are going to use this new version for the franchise. The gowns have more colors and she looks more stylized, more like a grown woman like the rest of the princesses.
About her sister I have to say that she looks a little generic to me. I'm tired about childs in animated movies that looks like if they were crazy in all the posters. Can they just make normal childs without disturbing faces?

New french book


New exhibitors for Hachette's books


This one is for the book "L'histoire du film", the junior novelization

[D82]

^Thanks for sharing, Thumper_93! Here are some more French book covers, including a new back cover:


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The new girl I think is melanesian or Aboriginal from Australia

Or maybe she's mixed

She has a boomerang (australian) and a part of her hair is blonde like melanesian (everybody uses those poor blonde melanesian kids in twitter)

Oh, I didn't know about the blond Melanesians. But I've looked up pictures of them and they're totally blond, while she only has a strand of blond hair. Is that common too for people there or has she dyed that part of her hair? Regarding the boomerang, it does look like she's holding one on one of the covers, but I think it's actually some kind of tool, which can be seen better in other covers.

I think that they are going to use this new version for the franchise. The gowns have more colors and she looks more stylized, more like a grown woman like the rest of the princesses.

It's true that she now looks more in tune with the other princesses, even though some are as young or even younger than she was in the first movie.

[Thumper_93]

I think that she looks younger in some cliparts because they copied poses and expressions from some cliparts mades for the first movie.
I don't know how much time is going to pass until they introduce Moana 2 look into the princesses franchise. I think that they are going to sell the merchandise from the movie under the Moana franchise as much time as they can. After that I'm sure that they are going to introduce her with her new look into the franchise. They will take some of the new cliparts and with a few things the'll make them similar to the style that the princesses artworks are going to have by then.
Maybe even they remove Moana or they'll make her to appear less in the Disney Princess Franchise in order to potentiate her own franchise for a couple of years.

[Pokenonbinary]

Moana deserves her own franchise and not just the princess brand

Everytime I've been in a store (in general, not just Disney ones) Moana doll was the most popular one compared to the rest (and it's normal, I think Moana design is the best one and she's really pretty)


Off topic:
Know that I think about it I'm not a doll collector but I want to buy a Moana doll (with Pua) (also barbie movie dolls, like the Ken patriarchy one)

[Thumper_93]

They mantained Moana's franchise some years but adding her into the Disney Princess franchise is a positive thing. In this Franchise you can find some of the most popular characters of all time. Including her in the Disney Princess brand ensure them to maintaince Moana's popularity without the need of making movies every 2 years like some other animated franchises like Gru.

[D82]

Two more dolls:

Disney Moana 2 Singing Fashion Doll
Disney Moana 2 Singing Toddler Doll

I think that she looks younger in some cliparts because they copied poses and expressions from some cliparts mades for the first movie.

Oh, I didn't mean she still looks younger than the other princesses. I was just pointing out that she looks more in tune with the rest now, but already had a similar age to some of them in the first movie (Aurora, for example, is 16 like she was and Snow White is just 14). But you're right they've reused some of her poses and expressions from the first movie.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Got a new article from The Associated Press on the development of Moana 2 and how the challenge of moving it from Disney+ to movie theaters is going: https://apnews.com/article/moana-2-prev ... a9f7d39224.

[Thumper_93]

I made a tiktok video about the dolls and Jakks asked me to remove all the pictures of their toys from my account. They also told me to say which website uploaded the pictures so I said that it was smyth toys. I'm not sure if they are allowed to post even Mattel dolls. Mattel is reallty stricted about leaks.

[D82]

Another book cover:


Source: https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Moana-Ult ... ref=sr_1_6

I made a tiktok video about the dolls and Jakks asked me to remove all the pictures of their toys from my account. They also told me to say which website uploaded the pictures so I said that it was smyth toys. I'm not sure if they are allowed to post even Mattel dolls. Mattel is reallty stricted about leaks.

Yes, they are. I don't know why, but toy brands in general are very strict about leaks. That's why I posted just the links here and not the photos. I'm sorry you had to remove your video.

[Thumper_93]

Don't worry about the video! The problem here is that is not a leak at all. It was posted by a toy shop, not leaked from someone that get access to it. It is really weird to not show anything from the movie when it is going to be released in a few months. Wicked dolls were shown some weeks ago and the movie is going to be release on week earlier than Moana

[Farerb]

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[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Maybe it’s for an end credits song?

[Sotiris]

I had run into somebody the other day and they work at Walt Disney Animation Studios and I said 'Hey, how's everything going?', they said 'Well, the entire third act of Moana 2 is still in storyboards and the movie has to be done in 16 weeks.'

Source: https://youtu.be/_M9sqgWVHnI?si=FPQUGtfmYCr3cW9L&t=4306

[DisneyJedi]

That doesn't sound very reassuring.

[Thumper_93]

I expected that. The trailers that they released are almost the same, they only included a few new scenes. I think that they needed a hit to earn money because last year was a disaster and they are running as fast as they can in order to save the year. Honestly it doesn't sound good, too much work for so less time...

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I had run into somebody the other day and they work at Walt Disney Animation Studios and I said 'Hey, how's everything going?', they said 'Well, the entire third act of Moana 2 is still in storyboards and the movie has to be done in 16 weeks.'

Source: https://youtu.be/_M9sqgWVHnI?si=FPQUGtfmYCr3cW9L&t=4306

At this point, if they decide to turn Tiana from a Disney+ series into a theatrical movie, I wouldn’t mind a delay of it into 2029 for three reasons:

a) to find the time they need to get every hand-drawn animator still alive to come back to Disney to work on it, if they decide maybe we shouldn’t let it be watched by no one on Disney+

b) to mark the 20th Anniversary of the original The Princess and the Frog

and c) to make sure we never see something like what happened with Moana 2 happen again to the animators.

Then again, perhaps having Moana 2 release this way was the only way it could happen so Zootopia 2 wouldn’t be rushed, hence why it is still sticking with the November 2025 date and why the Suzi Yoonessi movie was delayed to November 2026 along with Frozen III and Frozen IV being delayed to November 2027 and November 2028. So those 4 movies could take their time at the cost of Moana 2 having to be worked on in the same way Spider-Verse 2 was, albeit a bit worse, to be moved to theaters and save Walt Disney Animation Studios from financial ruin.

I expected that. The trailers that they released are almost the same, they only included a few new scenes. I think that they needed a hit to earn money because last year was a disaster and they are running as fast as they can in order to save the year. Honestly it doesn't sound good, too much work for so less time...

I disagree heavily with that statement about the trailers, BTW, since Moana 2’s second trailer had more new scenes in it than old scenes.