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Wow, I'm glad you liked it so much, Disney Duster. So far, the movie has a 100% score of positive reviews here in the forum. :wink:
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Wonderful that that is the case! And I forgot to say about the climax, I was reminded of Sleeping Beauty's "Now Sword of Truth fly swift and sure, that evil die and good endure!" in the climax!
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I mean I liked it but I don't think it's Pixar's best, and I did find it a little predictable (it's what happens when you do the same formula over and over). It was funny and charming, the characters were likable, but I don't think it's on the same level as WALL-E, The Incredibles, Finding Nemo and Coco. Not sure whether I'll get it on Blu-ray.
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Disney Duster wrote:I certainly didn't see the way they did the ending coming, and there were lots of sniffles and crying in the audience around me. ... this film certainly affected me.
Me neither. It was sophisticated and clever. Several good payoffs. (probably thanks to the setting and the way some characters are written?) I'm glad you enjoyed the movie and had a good time.
Disney Duster wrote:This is one of Pixar's best efforts
That might be the truth.. at least regarding the recent years.

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(What a crappy promotion though. Yet this way you really get to appreciate the movie for how good it is while discovering it. I'm unsure what's the best)
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Wow, I'm so glad to see that so many people on here have loved the film especially Clindor and Duster. I was actually thinking about waiting a few days or a week to watch this film, which I almost never do with a Disney film, but all these rave reviews have made me think otherwise.
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If it doesn't get the same Box Office success as other Pixar releases, I can definitively imagine this movie becoming a Pixar classic for some. I'm happy they finally succeeded in making this 'Reign of the Dinosaurs' concept possible. I'm glad they didn't totally fall for the fantasy aspect because it allowed them to tell the story in a better way.
Can you explain what you meant by the "Reign of the Dinosaurs" concept? I didn't quite understand that or is that something that only makes sense if you've seen the film?
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I also really liked Onward. You can tell how personal the film is to Dan Scanlon and I really liked the relationship with the brothers. The emotions were well earned. Although I found their dad's legs and the Manticore stole the show. The lack of a villain also worked, unless you count the dragon at the end. Although the curse, like the pixies, was more of an obstacle rather than an outright villain.

I always felt the "it looks like DreamWorks" comments made prior to Onward's release were unfounded. DreamWorks Animation doesn't have a house style. How to Train Your Dragon isn't like Megamind, which isn't like The Croods, which isn't like Captain Underpants, which isn't like Rise of the Guardians, which isn't like Abominable, which isn't like The Boss Baby, which isn't like Trolls, etc. I remember YouTube kept recommending me videos like "Onward doesn't look like a Pixar movie." Those videos look silly now, because Onward has many of the Pixar characteristics their films are known for.

But if Onward ended up taking Pixar in a different direction, would that be a bad thing? I don't think so.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
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If it doesn't get the same Box Office success as other Pixar releases, I can definitively imagine this movie becoming a Pixar classic for some. I'm happy they finally succeeded in making this 'Reign of the Dinosaurs' concept possible. I'm glad they didn't totally fall for the fantasy aspect because it allowed them to tell the story in a better way.
Can you explain what you meant by the "Reign of the Dinosaurs" concept?
Well, this is partially my own interpretation but: waaay back in 2010 when the 'Reign of the Dinosaurs' Pixar project first leaked, and in 2011 when the project was first introduced to some notably thanks to the D23 Expo, the project was presented as what our modern world would looks like if the giant meteor never collapsed the Earth and if Dinosaurs has been co-existing with us during all that time.

Since then and till 2015, it had seemed that the project changed a lot to eventually take place at prehistorical times, with human characters barely having any purposes to be portrait-ed in this movie (outside the fact of acting like a dog which was pretty pointless.) Just like the creative teams didn't find a way to make their original idea work. (The result was a weird movie for which not a lot of people could justify its existence.)

When they very first announced the "Untitled Pixar Film That Takes You to a Suburban Fantasy World" at the D23 Expo in July 2017, to me it was pretty obvious what they were trying to do with this one: they wanted to put back in work their original concept of "Reign of the Dinosaurs" (before it eventually became what "The Good Dinosaur" is), only this time you replace the dinosaurs with fantastic and mythological creatures in hope it might work better.

When the first teaser for "Onward" was released online last June, visually I thought it didn't pay off (showing only the neighbourhood of the Lightfoot family.) It didn't feel appealing enough to my humble opinion, and thought for a short time that this project just wasn't meant to be so. Now that I saw the final product in theaters, I can say it really works as a whole, and it helps to tell the story the way it is.
JeanGreyForever wrote:I didn't quite understand that or is that something that only makes sense if you've seen the film?
Not at all. Yet watching the whole movie hopefully will help you appreciate this.
estefan wrote:I remember YouTube kept recommending me videos like "Onward doesn't look like a Pixar movie." Those videos look silly now, because Onward has many of the Pixar characteristics their films are known for.
Indeed.

Actually, in my case, I'd say the emotions in this one works better on me than other of their major well-known for being emotional movies. But it might be only me.
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Thank you for explaining! I was wondering if that was an allusion to The Good Dinosaur's troubled production and I wasn't aware of the fact that the original premise had humans and dinosaurs co-existing in contemporary times.

I'm glad the modern-day fantasy theme worked for you in the final product because like you, I wasn't won over by the trailer alone and that was my main concern with this film.
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D82 wrote:I'm not sure, given that I don't speak Swedish, but could this be the Swedish voice cast for the main roles?
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Yes but i already know the four main ones. Thanks anyway :wave: :)
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Who does Dave Foley voices ? !

Does anyone know that ??? :? ❗️
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DisneyFan97 wrote:Who does Dave Foley voices ? !

Does anyone know that ??? :? ❗️
He's only listed in the end credits under "Additional Voices", so his role is probably a very minimal one. I didn't catch his voice, but maybe someone else did.
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DisneyFan97 wrote:Yes but i already know the four main ones. Thanks anyway :wave: :)
Oh, OK. I'm sorry I couldn't help you with that. In Spain we have a really good website about Spanish dubbings where there are complete listings for each movie. I don't know if there's something similar in Sweden. It would be very helpful for someone like you who is interested in it.

Regarding Dave Foley, I don't know who he voices in the movie, but in this interview he says he did "a few fun voices" for the film, so I guess he voices more than one character. Though, as estefan says, they're probably very small roles.
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I'm surprised they went as far as banning the film. I thought they would just censor it by dubbing the gay away.

Disney/Pixar’s ‘Onward’ Banned In Multiple Middle East Countries Due To Lesbian Reference
https://deadline.com/2020/03/disney-onw ... 202876168/
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Sotiris wrote:I'm surprised they went as far as banning the film. I thought they would just censor it by dubbing the gay away.

Disney/Pixar’s ‘Onward’ Banned In Multiple Middle East Countries Due To Lesbian Reference
https://deadline.com/2020/03/disney-onw ... 202876168/
Gee. Then we can bet the same thing will happen to 'Jungle Cruise'. There is little doubt I think.
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I took my kids to see it last night. I was surprised that my oldest (he's 12 and long past interest in Disney movies) really wanted to see it. Then after the movie was over, he excitedly told me, "THAT was a great movie!" So from that perspective, as much as I hated it, the marketing worked.

This won't be my favorite Pixar film, but it's a solid film for sure. I found the tone to be delightfully understated; it wasn't trying too hard. The laughs and tears felt earned, not forced. I wish they'd make more like it rather than continuing to milk all of their franchises to death (it won't at all surprise me to learn that they are developing Toy Story 5 :roll: )
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I miraculously (really, work has been crazy the whole week BUT yesterday) managed to watch it yesterday and thought it was nothing short of perfect. Wayyy up high on my list of Pixar best.

Yup, it doesn't have the obvious sellable sidekick, no one-liners to be printed into t-shirts and some problems that people in this board - don't remember specifically who, sorry - with the apparent Dreamkworks-y humor are just not there when you look at the whole picture.

There's so much heart in this film, you can see Dan Scanlon poured his all over it.

I was so sure I was going to love Ian so much but Barley ended up being my favourite. He's just too much like me for me to not like him after getting to know him rotfl


I had a better comment on my mind yesterday but I was just too tired to turn on my computer and type it :lol: this one will have to do


By the way, the copy in my country doesn't include the Simpsons short. How was it?
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Just saw the movie- absolutely one of Pixar's best!!! It has so much heart. Barley + Ian are great, their mom is great, Colt, the Manticore, their dad- all great. It's such an uplifting, feel-good movie!!!

And I loved the Maggie Simpson short- it was really cute + funny.
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It’s so interesting to see the varied responses to the film. People seem to love or think it’s just “meh.” I’m guessing the movie is mostly a pedestrian, paint by the numbers Pixar film but that the ending packs an absolute wallop of emotions, which seems fitting for the subject matter. I’m guessing Julia Louis Dreyfus plays a big part in the climax? She’s too big of a star to be relegated only to the opening scenes of the movie, pre-quest. Not looking for spoilers, just like to make my guess before seeing the movie.

I think this is still going to be a wait for the Blu-ray movie for me, though.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:I’m guessing the movie is mostly a pedestrian, paint by the numbers Pixar film but that the ending packs an absolute wallop of emotions
It's really not. That's what the trailers led you to think. There's a lot of good building up throughout the entire movie without you necessarily noticing at first.
Then, every now and then come the payoffs.
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UmbrellaFish wrote:I’m guessing the movie is mostly a pedestrian, paint by the numbers Pixar film but that the ending packs an absolute wallop of emotions
It sort of is, but it doesn't try hard to be and I think it also brings the emotions organically and not forced the way Inside Out tried to. The humor is not Dreamworksy, it's very similar to Monsters University IMO (though I vaguely remember MU cause I saw it only once or twice) and I guess the climax isn't filled with conflict like Coco's, which to me was more emotional.
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