Dumbo: Special Edition Blu-ray and DVD Discussion

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I've been really excited to see this cover art as well. Mostly because I want it to be similar to the flier we've seen (minor the 3 images from the film). That would be a great cover art in my opinion.

I would say the same as Wondy. We'll probably see Dumbo's sometime around November, and probably Fantasia's around December or January.
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Wonderlicious wrote: The Snow White cover-art got leaked out so early because it was the big October Platinum. The cover-arts for nearly all other releases wouldn't be released until around three or four months before coming out. So it shouldn't be too long till we see the cover-art for Dumbo (and Fantasia hopefully). ;)
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And I agree with singerguy too, the very classy and simple look to the Dumbo advertisement would be a very nice cover!
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I, as well, am excited to hear the official announcement for this. This is not only because it's Dumbo, but also because it is the first non-Platinum/Diamond animated Blu from Disney! :D
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I would love to see that as a cover but don't see Buena Vista actually using it as one. I'll cross my fingers though. ;)
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They will probably just use the usual floating-character-heads-in-a-photoshop-background cover art. Maybe I am wrong, but maybe not. We'll just have to wait and see.
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KubrickFan wrote:
ajmrowland wrote:How enormous, you ask? From my understanding, IMAX is only 4k.
Um, no it isn't. Standard 35mm film is around 4k. And the differences in size between a 35mm frame and an IMAX frame is pretty big:

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So, it has to be much bigger than that. Problem is that 8K scanning is the best they can do nowadays.
JDCB1986 wrote: Firstly... we were both wrong about how much better 8K is than HD.
According to the folks who just restored The Wizard Of Oz using 8K,
"The 8K scan would have about 16 times the pixel resolution of an HD image."

Secondly... in 2003 a typical colour film digital restoration ran about $75-250K...
Even if that price had doubled, which is not likely, seeing as the restoration processes have improved so greatly since then.
Spending $500K on these films, that will without question earn that money back in the many years of
home video and theatrical re-releases that the restorations will grant them, is hardly superfluous.
An 8K restoration would last them 2 or 3 decades (or more,) the decision to future-proof them for a while is a great one by Disney.

As for your doubts that people will have 8K equipment at home.
It will happen. Look at TV's 10 years ago.
Things will continue to improve and 8K resolution will eventually make it's way into homes.
Theatrical re-releases will also benefit.

$500K now is better than $250K now + $300K in 10 years + $400K in 20 years.
But 8K restorations are simply superfluous for the films that aren't shot on 70mm. The lightly added details aren't worth the cost, I think. Especially not for around fourty full-length motion pictures.

And you're also forgetting that scanning methods and restoration methods are continuing to evolve too. So, even though an 8K restoration is done now, there's absolutely no guarantee there isn't going to be another one in a couple of years from now. Look at The Wizard of Oz, which got it's full blown 4K restoration only a couple of years ago. The only reason it got an 8K restoration is because it's such a popular film, and not nearly every Disney film has achieved that kind of popularity.

TV's ten years ago had the same resolution as dvd's have. It took us four to five decades to have a new broadcasting system, so HD is going to stay for a while. And judging from the fact you need around a 50 inch television to get the full benefits from HD, I think you need a tv the size of an entire wall of your home to get the full benefits of 8K, if we'll ever go there.
I had only thought that since most cinemas are 2k that 35mm was that resolution as well. I stand corrected
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yeah, i'd think it'd be safe to assume that BVHE will not use the ad art because they seem to favor a more kid-friendly-bright-flashy-sometimes crowded designs. However, if Best Buy continues with the steelbooks... perhaps that's where we'll see it!
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Uh? I hope they don't use that advert at all! It's much too boring...

DUMBO is a classic in many ways, however it's always been advertised as a fun picture, which it is. This is one of the few DACs where disney's child friendly bright color clip arts actually reflect the films atmosphere.

I'd be very disappointed if one of my favourites films got such an underwhelming cover.
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yukitora wrote:Uh? I hope they don't use that advert at all! It's much too boring...

DUMBO is a classic in many ways, however it's always been advertised as a fun picture, which it is. This is one of the few DACs where disney's child friendly bright color clip arts actually reflect the films atmosphere.

I'd be very disappointed if one of my favourites films got such an underwhelming cover.
AMEN! I want the cover to reflect the film....big watercolor pictures! With this being my all-time fav DAC, I am so hoping Disney gets their act together and releases an awesome Dumbo Blu!
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Matt wrote:What is the song in the new trailer? Well I guess it's an instrumental track. I really like it. :)
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yukitora wrote:Uh? I hope they don't use that advert at all! It's much too boring...

DUMBO is a classic in many ways, however it's always been advertised as a fun picture, which it is. This is one of the few DACs where disney's child friendly bright color clip arts actually reflect the films atmosphere.

I'd be very disappointed if one of my favourites films got such an underwhelming cover.
A fun picture? I thought Dumbo was one of the most depressing animated movies Disney made.
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^which made the end even happier :P

I agree, when I think Dumbo I think Baby Mine, but the fact is it was advertised as a fun picture (or atleast labelled that by walt in the bonus features), and considering how everything works out so well in the end in such a surreal environment is pretty fun in my book.
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Cover art is meh. Taken from http://disneydvd.disney.go.com/dumbo.html

Looks like it is 1 disc Blu-ray.
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Coolmanio wrote:ImageImage

Cover art is meh. Taken from http://disneydvd.disney.go.com/dumbo.html

Looks like it is 1 disc Blu-ray.
Ooooh no I really like it!
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I am sorry, but that cover art is awful. It makes the BTE art look good. Hopefully they will modify it before releasing it.
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argh so off model! but I like how its so different.
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*amused* oooh I like it too... very attractive. hope they don't change it.
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I actually like the cover art and the characters don't look off-model to me. The only thing I would like to see changed is the cloudy background. It is done in a realistic way, which isn't the style of the film. It would be nice if they modified it with a watercolor image of the sky. But overall, I think it's much better than the previous two DVD releases.

And I'm not at all surprised that the Blu-Ray is going to be 1 disc. The marketing made it sound like a 2-disc DVD and a 1-disc Blu-Ray equivalent, just like The Nightmare Before Christmas. I'm guessing that a lot of the new bonus features are archival footage that they didn't master in HD, so it will be 2-discs worth of content on 1 Blu-Ray disc.

I'm really excited for this.
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Alright Disney, now what are the bonus features? They better be GOOD.

I'm all for a John Lasseter commentary. :D
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I'm glad they're going for a single image on a cover, it's much better than the standard collage we've been seeing too many times before. It's a small image, so I can't really see if the characters are off-character or not. The clouds look pretty good to me, though. Not entirely realistic, but it fits nicely with the 3D look the characters have on the cover.
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