Disneycember Month by Doug Walker of TGWTG

Tristy · Post by **Tristy** » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:39 pm

estefan wrote:
PatrickvD wrote:Is Doug kidding? I'm like 2 minutes into this and he claims Disney wasn't doing very well at the time of Toy Story's release.
Yeah, that also made me go "what?" when he said that. In the Bug's Life video, he also said A Bug Life and Antz were released in the summer and that Katzenberg left Disney shortly after Toy Story came out. I also remember him saying last year that Fantasia was a big hit in 1940.

I think it's interesting to hear his opinions on the different animated films, but if he's going to get into the production history of them, he needs to actually do research.

Well, he did think "Eating the Peach" was a complete Randy Newman invention so I'm not too surprised.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:32 pm

qindarka · Post by **qindarka** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:08 pm

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Even People that are registered on the website are speaking out and disagreeing with Doug

What did he say about it?

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:25 pm

qindarka wrote:
disneyboy20022 wrote:<iframe src="http://blip.tv/play/AYOK6U8C.x?p=1" width="720" height="433" frameborder="0"></iframe><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://a.blip.tv/api.swf#AYOK6U8C"></embed>

Even People that are registered on the website are speaking out and disagreeing with Doug
What did he say about it?

That the plot is too complicated, thinks the villain is too bland and predictable and that Billy Crystal's character Mike is weak and annoying.

qindarka · Post by **qindarka** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:20 pm

[quote="disneyboy20022"

That the plot is too complicated, thinks the villain is too bland and predictable and that Billy Crystal's character Mike is weak and annoying.[/quote]

Well, he is entitled to his opinion, isn't he. Can't expect him to agree with us on everything. Especially for something so subjective as how annoying a character is.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:30 pm

That is very true. He is entitled to his opinion. It's not wrong, nor is it right and I respect that. My opinion is that Cars was a pretty good movie and I like it a lot. However not the same for the sequel.

My late grandfather said that if every man loved the same woman, we'd be doomed.

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:01 am

qindarka wrote:Speaking of The Jungle Book, did anyone else find Mowgli unlikable?

He was whiny through the movie, but he had every right to do so. He was being taken away from the only home he had ever known against his will. And although the jungle was a dangerous place for a little boy, it's understandable why Mowgli felt the way he did.

qindarka · Post by **qindarka** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:14 am

DisneyFan09 wrote:
qindarka wrote:Speaking of The Jungle Book, did anyone else find Mowgli unlikable?
He was whiny through the movie, but he had every right to do so. He was being taken away from the only home he had ever known against his will. And although the jungle was a dangerous place for a little boy, it's understandable why Mowgli felt the way he did.

Perhaps, kinda jarring how he is so willing to go into the village at the end, though.

And it seems strange that you would be replying to a year old post.

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:46 am

slave2moonlight wrote:Hmm, he seems to be saying Aladdin isn't as great as he remembered,... but I don't think his reasons are very strong, even to himself...

I agree. It really made me cringe when he explained his so-called "problems" with "Aladdin", by comparing it to "Beauty and the Beast". Especially since those issues were really vague. And besides, why have a comparison between those two moves? While having similarites, they're still different.

Nostalgia Critic is really demonstrating every time why I prefer his female counterpart, Nostalgia Chick. Her videos are more well-planned and better executed. Not to mention that she has a better balance of comedy and seriousness (in lack of a better expression). While Chick's reviews can be flawed; her facts aren't always straight and she is constantly bashing the movies she hates (*cough, Pocahontas, cough*). However, I still enjoy her reviews.

Critic's videos can be entertaining, but he's usually too loud and obnoxious and his humor is really juvenile. Not to mention that he's not good at conveying himself.

The only thing that I like about Critic, though, is his love for "Hunchback", haha

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:47 am

qindarka wrote: And it seems strange that you would be replying to a year old post.

Then excuse me for joining this discussion, then! This thread was recently bumped up, so therefore I replied.

FigmentJedi · Post by **FigmentJedi** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:48 pm

DisneyFan09 wrote: Nostalgia Critic is really demonstrating every time why I prefer his female counterpart, Nostalgia Chick. Her videos are more well-planned and better executed. Not to mention that she has a better balance of comedy and seriousness (in lack of a better expression). While Chick's reviews can be flawed; her facts aren't always straight and she is constantly bashing the movies she hates (*cough, Pocahontas, cough*). However, I still enjoy her reviews.

Not to mention how Disneycember absolutely pales in comparison to James Rolfe's Monster Madness. James has a clear passion for the horror genre and offers a lot of nice insight into each of the films he covers and you actually learn something while you watch. Doug's Disneycember videos are bland, terribly researched and he doesn't seem to really care about the bulk of the movies involved.

thelittleursula · Post by **thelittleursula** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:52 pm

Compared to last year this Disneycember is a bit of a fail. Why didn't he do research before putting it out ? Maybe he was too busy, or just a bit more rusty because he hasn't really reviewed much in ages.

I respect his opinion, but yeah Disney wasn't failing then.

@ Disneyfan09

I agree. His reasons on why Aladdin isn't as good as B&B and Lion King as the more you grow up the least awesome it feels. But now that I'm older Lion King feels really immature and obnoxious at the beginning and the lesson Aladdin teaches to always be yourself is quite mature. B& B is up to debate, but Beast and Belle's relationship doesn't feel all that healthy. It's something that kids would find cute, but adults wouldn't find practical to a real life romance.

* holds shield to block flames from angry B& B fans *

JiminyCrick91 · Post by **JiminyCrick91** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:31 pm

I was sad to see the Nostalgia Critic end but it was really starting to get on the iffy side anyway. I may get into Demo Reel at some time but so far the only one that I have watched was the Rob Paulsen short. It seems like Doug is a nice enough man but if the videos of the past little while are any indication he no longer researches ANYTHING. I basically only watch his Bum Reviews now while skipping the rest of his stuff on the site. I do still frequently visit however thanks to my fandom of other people on the site not the least of which being Lewis Lovhaug and Brad Jones. When I saw he was doing another Disneycember all I could do was be confused. Was it that big a hit last year for him?

-Skyler

Disney's Divinity · Post by **Disney's Divinity** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:42 pm

thelittleursula wrote:B& B is up to debate, but Beast and Belle's relationship doesn't feel all that healthy. It's something that kids would find cute, but adults wouldn't find practical to a real life romance.

I'm not sure about that. B&tB and TLK have always seemed more popular with adults than children, or at least equally as popular across generational lines. As a child, I was ambivalent to B&tB, but it's always been my mother's favorite film for the romance. I had read that it was seen as a date movie at the time, too.

Moreover, I personally find nothing wrong with Belle and the Beast's relationship. I've always found most arguments to the contrary usually weak.

ProfessorRatigan · Post by **ProfessorRatigan** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:41 pm

^Agreed.

I think most kids don't like Beauty and the Beast until they're older. I didn't. I found it boring as a kid. (And the main draw for me was always the villain of the film. At the time, Gaston didn't impress me. So the rest of the film followed.) Now that I'm an adult, Beauty and the Beast is my second-favorite animation, second only to Hunchback.

I've heard a LOT of people say the same thing about Hunchback. "Oh, I hated it as a kid, but now that I'm an adult, I GET it." Or something similar. But I always loved that one it was the first film I ever saw in the cinema and it had me from the moment the Bells of Notre Dame began. (Then again, I was the kid that seemed to like the dark, weird films that made other kids cry... It's why Batman Returns remains a favorite of mine!)

As for Doug Walker... Yeah, some of his reviews are down-right insulting in the amount of wrong-headed information presented in them. But to me, what's worse are the fanboys who immediately take HIS views on films just because they're his. (Go read some of the comments on the original Disneycember videos and try not to punch your computer screen.) The biggest example of this, I find, is Hunchback. Hunchback has been maligned for years as one of Disney's 'worst' and 'flawed' films. Then Doug Walker comes along, talks about how "It's flawed, but I love it," and now THAT is the line pretty much anyone says about it. Or "If it weren't for those gargoyles, it'd be a great movie."

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:24 am

The Blockbuster Buster is annoying, but his review of Darkwing Duck really impressed me. Especially his mention of being annoyed that Disney won't release the rest of the series on DVD and that the episode are out of order. If you can't stand his voice as much, go to the 30 minute mark. That's were he voiced if Disney watched to release the rest of the series already.

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disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:36 pm

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:36 am

The only surprising thing about Doug's Disneycember reviews is that he HATES Jiminy Cricket.

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:21 pm

Disney's Divinity wrote:I'm not sure about that. B&tB and TLK have always seemed more popular with adults than children.

My impression is that TLK is really popular with children as well. BaTB seems more popular with adults, although children like it as well.

disneyboy20022 · Post by **disneyboy20022** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:54 pm

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