ohmahaaha wrote:Religion should have never, ever been brought into the whole picture with this. How can anyone here on Earth truly say what God's position on this is?? Even if someone thinks that they know what God's position on this would be - based on their interpretation of biblical text - who are they to dare to speak for God - on this or any issue?
But while Religion and biblical text is in the picture, let's talk about it for a second or two. Fact: in all of the Gospels, check the rubrics my friends, Jesus Christ never, ever said anything against or denouncing homosexuality.
ok this is my favorite part
God's position to everything is in his inspired word the bible. while many religions have their own interpretations, he bible has only one meaning and it has to harmonize completely from beginning to end since it was inspired by God. If something contradicts then some interpretation you made has to be erronious and many religions today don't care to see that. Many of their beliefs don't hamonize with the whole bible. but anyways there are scriptures in the old and new testament that are against homosexual acts. even Jesus spoke of this! This scriptures were inspiered by God an are his views on this. while the word homosexuality is not in the bible it refers to it as fornication Greek word "Por.nei'a" Hebrew word "za.nah" mean either straight or gay sex,bestiality, prostitution, etc..
we read at
Romans 1:26, 27, according to The New Testament in Modern English by J. B. Phillips:
"God therefore handed them over to disgraceful passions. Their women exchanged the normal practices of sexual intercourse for something which is abnormal and unnatural. Similarly the men, turning from natural intercourse with women, were swept into lustful passions for one another. Men with men performed these shameful horrors, receiving, of course, in their own personalities the consequences of sexual perversity."
we read at
1 Corinthians 6:9, 10:
"Make no mistake: no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion . . . will possess the kingdom of God." (The New English Bible)
Or
as the verse is paraphrased in
The Living Bible:
"Homosexuals-will have no share in his kingdom."
But an honest examination of the words of Jesus, shows that he, too, did indeed speak against homosexuality.
He said, as recorded at Matthew 19:9 according to the Revised Standard Version (RSV):
"Whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery."
The Greek word for "unchastity" that Matthew here employs in penning Jesus' words is por·nei'a. Por·nei'a is related to the verb por·neu'o, meaning "to give one's self to unlawful sexual intercourse."
The best way to understand what is taken in by these terms is to find out how they are used in other places. A similar word appears in the Bible at Jude 7 in describing the sin of certain ancient cities:
"Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally [an intensive form of por·neu'o] and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." (RSV)
For what type of 'immorality' or por·nei'a were those at Sodom and Gomorrah condemned? The Bible narrative at
Genesis 19:4, 5 answers:
"The men of Sodom, surrounded the house, from boy to old man, all the people in one mob. And they kept calling out to Lot and saying to him: 'Where are the men who came in to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have intercourse with them.'"
These men of Sodom and Gomorrah were homosexuals. In fact, the English word "sodomy," which particularly means 'intercourse between two men,' is drawn from the name of the city of Sodom. The Bible would call their sin por·nei'a. Jesus said por·nei'a was so wrong morally that it was a basis for severing the marriage bond.
Further more Jesus was a Jew living under the Law which stated:
That Law included among its injunctions: "Do not lie with a male as one lies with a woman; it is an abhorrence." - Lev. 18:22
Por·nei'a, the word used by Jesus, obviously embraced this command of God. Also, it should be noted that homosexuality had been condemned by God before the law of Moses was even given. The account about Sodom and Gomorrah, referred to earlier, proves this fact; those cities were destroyed by God over 400 years before the law of Moses came into existence. Jesus was aware of that.-Luke 17:28, 29, 32. Beyond doubt, therefore, Jesus did in fact condemn all such 'unchaste' practices as homosexuality. As reason would indicate to us, the Bible is consistent on this matter. Paul's words are backed up by the authority of the Son of God. This doesn't mean God doesn't love them cause he does! John 3:16 says "God loved the world so much" it doesn't say he only loved people that were faithful to him but he said all the world including sinners but what he doesn't approve is their lifestyle. the scriptures goes on to say "the he gave his only begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" here it gives a promessing future for all the people that stumble in satan's lies or the desires of our inperfect bodies, if we repent and work to gain God favor we can earn this everlasting life!
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