Hilary Duff News Thread

[numba1lostboy]

If you think Hilary, Hailie, Paris, Nicole, Jessica, Christina, Brittany, et al, are beautiful, then either you are blind or you have poor taste in women. None of them reach above the 3 scale on a 1-10.

Hilary (yes), Haylie (yuh-huh), Paris (disgusting), Nicole (ew, no), Jessica (Simpson- yes, Alba- oh yes), Christina (no, she looks like a man), Britney (white trailer trash whore).

[James]

Yeah, I'd say that she's beautiful. Just because that's a bad picture of her doesn't mean that she isn't a beautiful person. And I'm so sick of people dissing Christina, and Britney and Madonna and Lindsay and Hilary. They are just trying to have successful careers. Just because they use shock value, doesn't mean that they don't have talent. They all have talent, even Madonna. And just because I'm sticking up for them doesn't mean I like the rest. Paris and Nikki Hilton, Nicole Richie, and Kimberly Stewart don't have talent, even though only two of them are making careers in the film/music industry. Paris has a slight inch of talent over the rest, because of her music. Nicole Richie isn't even trying to release her music, she's just staying in her little anorexic bubble of a world. And Jessica Simpson doesn't have talent either, her singing is horrible and acting is putrid. Christina, Hilary, Britney, Madonna, Lindsay and Hilary all have talent, even though they use shock value and publicity to strengthen their careers. Why do you think that their careers have lasted so long? They've needed the shock value and public reinventions in order to keep their careers, not that their careers would end if they kept doing the same stuff, but the public gets bored if the same thing keeps getting tossed at them. Look at JoJo. Or Stacey Orrico. There are countless others that are the same, and their music is dropping out of the charts and out of the publics memory more and more. Another good example of reinvention is Nelly Furtado. Her first album "Whoa Nelly", with the hits"I'm Like A Bird", and "Turn Off The Lights" was kind of pop, with her second album "Folklore" being of folk descent, obviously. Her third album "Loose", was an R'nB album, and has been her most successful. Her songs have been consistently successful, and she's kind of had to slut it up a bit. See what I mean, she's had to make herself more presentable to the media and public, in order to sell her music. And I mean it's not like these artists are actually having sex. And so what if they are, sex is not a bad thing. It's natural and it's meant to be had. I wouldn't have learnt half the stuff I knew about sex if it weren't for the media. And it's not like little girls who dance they Britney, etc. know what the moves are meant to represent. They don't even know what sex is.
What I'm trying to say is that they're good artists,and who cares if they're sluts. It's unfortunately the only way to keep of the top of this industry. And it's good that they're getting sex out in the open, it should be embraced. Sorry if I sound like a perverted idiot or something, but I'm passionate about these artists, and no, not about their bodies.
-James

[numba1lostboy]

I wouldn't have learnt half the stuff I knew about sex if it weren't for the media. And it's not like little girls who dance they Britney, etc. know what the moves are meant to represent. They don't even know what sex is.

How can you say that and not have it bother you?
This is exactly the reason that people see a problem in these women becoming media sluts. They are role models. Little girls who listen to Britney and company do indeed mimic the moves, knowing or not knowing what the moves mean. This is totally innappropriate. Why should we find it acceptable that little children are being sexually educated by a vixen who obviously treats sex like its nothing. It's not nothing. Sex is a good thing, but it is not a thing that should be thrown around the airwaves. Sex isn't something a child should learn about from the tabloids or a suggestive song on the radio. Little children are losing their innocence earlier and earlier, and its all because these "women" whom they idolize are succumbing to the sexed-up hollywood. Part of this cultural descent lies in the hands of the parents of today. There are some who don't see a problem with it, so they let it slide. Fine. Let them raise their own children. BUT, whether the more conservative parents like it or not, their children idolize these starlets. And, frankly, its disheartening.

The whole fact that children don't know what sex is should be enough to shock people. If children don't know what sex is, why should they be mimicing it? You say it doesn't hurt anybody, but I disagree. It robs a child of their innocence that is incredibly precious, especially in times like these.

Also, no one is saying that Christina and the like are bad artists, we're just saying that if they're as good as they think, they should be able to sell their music in a healthier way.

[slave2moonlight]

If you think Hilary, Hailie, Paris, Nicole, Jessica, Christina, Brittany, et al, are beautiful, then either you are blind or you have poor taste in women. None of them reach above the 3 scale on a 1-10.

Well, my vision is 20/20 and one thing I have always been commended on is my taste in women, and I'm also extremely particular (and mainly a face guy). As for the list above, I am not sure which Jessica you mean (there are many), and I have always found Hayley rather... well... unattractive is the nicest way I can put it. Never found Paris or Nicole attractive either. Christina and Britney, well, not really recently. Britney was beautiful when she first came onto the scene as a pop star. Aguilera is beautiful at times, horrendous at other times. Hilary, however, was gorgeous until she went anorexic, tanned, and capped her teeth (though I still sometimes see recent pictures of her looking gorgeous, so for every goofy picture someone can dig up of her, I could dig up a gorgeous one, but you can play that game with any celeb), and I certainly would question the taste of any straight male who didn't agree, but it really wouldn't be right, since there is no hard and fast rule of what IS attractive and what ISN'T. At least, there shouldn't be. I suppose the popular opinion of female perfection is the average supermodel/Victoria's Secret model. Personally, I have only seen 2 or 3 of those that I have ever thought was attractive. For a gallery of the celebrity women I have found most beautiful (though I haven't had time to add all of them), visit my "My Space" page: http://www.myspace.com/slave2moonlight . Anyone who doesn't find most of those women attractive... well, let's just say I wouldn't want them setting my up on any blind dates.

[slave2moonlight]

I'm so sick of people dissing Christina, and Britney and Madonna and Lindsay and Hilary. They are just trying to have successful careers. Just because they use shock value, doesn't mean that they don't have talent. They all have talent, even Madonna. And just because I'm sticking up for them doesn't mean I like the rest. Paris and Nikki Hilton, Nicole Richie, and Kimberly Stewart don't have talent, even though only two of them are making careers in the film/music industry. Paris has a slight inch of talent over the rest, because of her music. Nicole Richie isn't even trying to release her music, she's just staying in her little anorexic bubble of a world. And Jessica Simpson doesn't have talent either, her singing is horrible and acting is putrid. Christina, Hilary, Britney, Madonna, Lindsay and Hilary all have talent, even though they use shock value and publicity to strengthen their careers. Why do you think that their careers have lasted so long? They've needed the shock value and public reinventions in order to keep their careers, not that their careers would end if they kept doing the same stuff, but the public gets bored if the same thing keeps getting tossed at them. Look at JoJo. Or Stacey Orrico. There are countless others that are the same, and their music is dropping out of the charts and out of the publics memory more and more. Another good example of reinvention is Nelly Furtado. Her first album "Whoa Nelly", with the hits"I'm Like A Bird", and "Turn Off The Lights" was kind of pop, with her second album "Folklore" being of folk descent, obviously. Her third album "Loose", was an R'nB album, and has been her most successful. Her songs have been consistently successful, and she's kind of had to slut it up a bit. See what I mean, she's had to make herself more presentable to the media and public, in order to sell her music. And I mean it's not like these artists are actually having sex. And so what if they are, sex is not a bad thing. It's natural and it's meant to be had. I wouldn't have learnt half the stuff I knew about sex if it weren't for the media. And it's not like little girls who dance they Britney, etc. know what the moves are meant to represent. They don't even know what sex is.

What I'm trying to say is that they're good artists,and who cares if they're sluts. It's unfortunately the only way to keep of the top of this industry. And it's good that they're getting sex out in the open, it should be embraced. Sorry if I sound like a perverted idiot or something, but I'm passionate about these artists, and no, not about their bodies.
-James

If they were true artists, they wouldn't be so willing to compromise just because "sex sells." I'm not saying that's what they believe they're doing, I'm just going along with your argument, hypothetically. If they are only using sex to stay on top, then I wouldn't call them "good artists." Being successful would be enough for a true artist as long as they could keep doing what they love with as little compromise as possible, and those with plenty of talent could stay successful without the blatant sex. Plenty of singers do, you just don't see them on MTV or in the "Pop" genre very often, since that genre has become obsessed with sex lately (much like sitcoms several years ago). However, some of them, like Christina for example, and probably Britney too, try to say that the sex in their music is what their art is all about. If so, okay, but to answer your "who cares" question, many people do, and I'm one of them. I care about the way they display themselves before their VERY young fans who are becoming "sexual" at younger and younger ages (I wonder why?), and if you think that's a good thing, well... that's just sad. I also care about what it is doing to society in general, which sinks lower and lower every year it seems. Sex is not a bad thing, but in my opinion it is no longer treated with the respect it should be for it to reach its full potential, and, again, that's just sad. It's dangerous too, not just physically but psychologically as well, but more than anything it is sooo sad and wasteful. I also care about these performers as human beings and fellow artists, even the ones I am not fans of. I wouldn't want my sisters doing the things they do, so I really shouldn't want them to do it. I feel bad for them that, despite all the money they have, they are the personification of everything that is wrong with modern society's views on love, sex, and relationships. And one need only tune in to their television sets to see what the public and their media friends really think of them. For all their talent, their sexual escapades and performances only make them the butt of jokes from the very media that pushes them in that direction. It's better to just be a respectable and consistent talent than a top of the heap star. Those who are on top are only placed there for the joy of tearing them down.

[The Merman]

I was looking through some of her recent pictures and this one really made me stop and look twice. It is an extremely sad picture! Look at her eyes; they do not give a glimpse of happiness. She looks old and tired. She was a child starlet who was always in the public promoting and acting and singing. Can you imagine never having a normal childhood, being able to do things like other girls of her age? Or having some friends of her age’s as well! This really struck me as I was watching her Fly music video. She is on the road all this time, and probably has very few real friends. Sometimes we forget how much pressure the media, and us the public puts on these girls to look a certain way…

[slave2moonlight]

I was looking through some of her recent pictures and this one really made me stop and look twice. It is an extremely sad picture! Look at her eyes; they do not give a glimpse of happiness. She looks old and tired. I think she is not really happy with her life, or who she is growing up to be. She was a child starlet who was always in the public promoting and acting and singing. Can you imagine never having a normal childhood, being able to do things like other girls of her age? Or having some friends of her age’s as well! This really struck me as I was watching her Fly music video. She is on the road all this time, and probably has very few real friends. Sometimes we forget how much pressure the media, and us the public puts on these girls to look a certain way…

Though this is one of her post-caps pics where she does look beautiful. I don't feel she looks old, but I have always noticed how tired Hilary looked and seemed ever since she took up her music career to the point of touring and all that. I don't necessary go along with the "poor child star that doesn't have a normal life" stuff though, because I'm not convinced there is such a thing as a "normal childhood." I think the difficult times for Hilary came mostly AFTER her Lizzie McGuire days. I don't agree that she doesn't seem happy with her life, but no one would be thrilled about stalker death threats, and I do suspect she gets very tired. But don't we all sometimes? We just don't have photo shoots scheduled when we do. I don't see why she shouldn't be happy with who she has grown up to be, either. That sounds like an anti-Hilary stretch to me. She hasn't done anything to be ashamed of yet, so why should she feel like that? She has a successful career (several, in fact) that she could quit at any time if she wanted to. She's an adult now, not a child, and let's hope she knows that what she does now is up to her. It's been a while since the "Fly" video, and even then, she kept in touch with her pre-fame friends from Texas and visited them often, and vice versa, and she has always had her sister, who is her best friend, and that alone can be enough.

[The Merman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNWzrXDj ... ed&search=

The Video above is from an interview in the UK. Yes she has a career but it is not so easy to quite anything at any time she wants. She has contracts to follow ect. As the interview shows she does not have friends anymore in Texas as she was home schooled from 4th grade. I mean yes she has a career but she also had to give a lot up to get that far. She looks very tired all the time. Okay maybe she is happy whom she has become but I also think she has felt very alone a lot of the times getting to where she is now.

[slave2moonlight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNWzrXDj ... ed&search=

The Video above is from an interview in the UK. Yes she has a career but it is not so easy to quite anything at any time she wants. She has contracts to follow ect. As the interview shows she does not have friends anymore in Texas as she was home schooled from 4th grade. I mean yes she has a career but she also had to give a lot up to get that far. She looks very tired all the time. Okay maybe she is happy whom she has become but I also think she has felt very alone a lot of the times getting to where she is now.

Yeah, I've seen that one before. You're reading too much into that interview though. Traveling, especially overseas, is both fun and exhausting. So is sticking to a hard schedule, so I agree that she seems tired most of the time, and probably is. But, remember that we only see her when she's on the job usually. We don't see her 24/7. We don't see her during her downtime, when she's at home relaxing, or whatever. We see her while she's working, and most people look tired while they're working, even if it's something they love, if they're working hard. And, yeah, she is under contracts, but contracts don't last forever. In fact, when she turned 18, she probably had the option to make lots of changes. As for having her old friends still, this is a more recent interview. I don't really know anyone her age who still is in touch with more than one or two of their friends from their younger days. As she says in that interview, she still has her best friend from Texas (I think her name is Heather) that she keeps in touch with. And, I have seen interviews with her from when she is younger, where she said she always hung out with her Texas friends whenever she was in Texas (which I'm sure was frequently, as her father still lived here, and I THINK still does). However, she probably has friends in California by now. And, besides that, a lot of average kids in average skills get by with few if any friends. Having a big group of close pals is not as common as some folks think. We all feel lonely at times, if not most of the time. At least she has gotten a hugely successful career out of it. If she's all THAT lonely, she can look me up, ha.

[dvdjunkie]

Since I have dealt with Hilary and Hailie Duff in person, I can tell you that no amount of air-brushing can save Hilary's sad eyes. She doesn't smile a lot, and you can tell that she is a very unhappy person.

Now as for Hailie Duff, totally different person all together. She is very plain, can't carry a sentence of conversation without saying, "you know" every third word, and if you ask her a question that she doesn't have an answer for, she gets this blank stare that would scare a scarecrow out of his perch. And temper, I don't want to go there. She has a very short fuse, and four-letter expletives fly freely when she is pissed.

Neither of the Duff sisters are very pretty without makeup, and a good wonder-bra. I think that Jesse McCartney was really embarrassed to be seen in the same room with them at times.

And as far as the remote for the television goes, we have Samsung 42" LCD television in every room, and the remote controls have very big lettering on them, and the on/off button is in the very center of the control. All you have to do is push the button and bang, there is the picture. Neither of them could figure out how to make it work.

The only good thing I have to say about my run-in with the Duffs is that they were very good tippers. I had no complaints there.

[slave2moonlight]

Since I have dealt with Hilary and Hailie Duff in person, I can tell you that no amount of air-brushing can save Hilary's sad eyes. She doesn't smile a lot, and you can tell that she is a very unhappy person.

Now as for Hailie Duff, totally different person all together. She is very plain, can't carry a sentence of conversation without saying, "you know" every third word, and if you ask her a question that she doesn't have an answer for, she gets this blank stare that would scare a scarecrow out of his perch. And temper, I don't want to go there. She has a very short fuse, and four-letter expletives fly freely when she is pissed.

Neither of the Duff sisters are very pretty without makeup, and a good wonder-bra. I think that Jesse McCartney was really embarrassed to be seen in the same room with them at times.

And as far as the remote for the television goes, we have Samsung 42" LCD television in every room, and the remote controls have very big lettering on them, and the on/off button is in the very center of the control. All you have to do is push the button and bang, there is the picture. Neither of them could figure out how to make it work.

The only good thing I have to say about my run-in with the Duffs is that they were very good tippers. I had no complaints there.

One of my best friends met Hilary at a local hotel when she was in town a year ago and had the complete opposite to say about her. So I'll have to continue giving her the benefit of the doubt, because, in my experience, it takes longer to really get to know someone. You can just catch them when they are having a bad day, week, month,.... heck, I've even had a bad year myself. I'm not really interested in Haylie, but that's sad to hear. The thing about the TV is quite funny though.

[dvdjunkie]

I did fail to mention that the Duffs were in the Hotel with Jesse McCartney for his concert in Wichita. They came in three days earlier than Jesse, and stayed til the day after. I think that six days with the Duffs was more than fair to get a real perspective on their personalities and such. True, everyone has their bad days and good days, and unfortunately the bad days outnumbered the good days with the Duffs.

[James]

Okay, I get that most of you guys think that using sexual implications, etc. as an artist is degrading, etc. and I respect that you guys have that opinion. I've got nothing more to say about these artists and their careers based on shock value, etc. since I don't want to be seen around here as an idiot. I don't want to be known on this forum as a freak with different weird opinions, even though I think that you guys respect my beliefs to a point at least. Okay. More discussion about Hilary Duff should be made, instead of other things.
More on topic, Hilary does look sad in those pictures. I hope that she gets a new boyfriend soon, so that she becomes happier. That picture is a perfect representation of her sad eyes.
-James

[numba1lostboy]

One of the chief things that attracts me to Hilary and Haylie is their plainness. I think it makes their faces shine...if that makes any sense at all. It's just how I see girls. If a girl wears excessive make-up, I don't think she must have a lot of confidence in herself. And that turns me off. The picture of Hilary with the incredibly orange eye-shadow is an instance when this came into play. But, usually, I see pictures of Hilary in make-up that is subtle and compliments her face and skin and doesn't try to add more/different colors.

[The Little Merman]

Hey, I don't particularly think Jake Gyllenhaal is attractive, but I don't jump down your throat for it, do I?

Yes, I think that girl is beautiful.

**Excuse my comments, Hilary fans

People actually think this troll is attractive?
...
Yes, she was cute in "Lizzie" and it's film, but honestly she should just stay inside and bathe in her grotesquely immense cash-flow.

Can you define "jumping down one's throat"?

*tlm

[PrincessJen]

While everyone discusses how ugly or gorgeous Hilary Duff is, I'd like to ask is her movie "Material Girls" worth buying for my sister as a Christmas gift?

[DisneyDVDFAN]

While everyone discusses how ugly or gorgeous Hilary Duff is, I'd like to ask is her movie "Material Girls" worth buying for my sister as a Christmas gift?

well i just got it for my daughter and sat down to watch it with her ... my thoughts were that it is not worth it ;( the story the acting bad...

the only good thing on it that my daughter liked was the music video !

[The Little Merman]

While everyone discusses how ugly or gorgeous Hilary Duff is, I'd like to ask is her movie "Material Girls" worth buying for my sister as a Christmas gift?

Oh, good lord no. Regardless of my opinions towards Hilary Duff's fugly-ness, Material Girls is simply horrendous.

*tlm

[slave2moonlight]

I did fail to mention that the Duffs were in the Hotel with Jesse McCartney for his concert in Wichita. They came in three days earlier than Jesse, and stayed til the day after. I think that six days with the Duffs was more than fair to get a real perspective on their personalities and such. True, everyone has their bad days and good days, and unfortunately the bad days outnumbered the good days with the Duffs.

That puts me in mind of a trip I took to Disney World once with my family (one of several) that was a particularly bad trip. It was a horrible trip, despite being at my favorite place on Earth. It was a full week when you would not want to encounter my family, who are generally very nice, ha. Six days isn't enough to get to know someone, and sometimes, you just don't want to be where you are or with the people you're with, or whatever. Sometimes, one person in a certain mood can put everyone in that mood too. It takes quite a while to really get to know someone.

It's kinda the same deal with the pictures people are posting here. Yeah, you can find pics of Hilary to post where she is wearing excessive make-up or where she looks sad. You can also find the opposite. In fact, I'm pretty sure you can find more of the opposite, because I do my share of Hilary picture searching myself, ha.

[numba1lostboy]

TLM-

You're right. I shouldn't have said that and I apologize.