I'm Obsessed with... DVD Chapters

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danamichelle wrote:I'm not really obsessed with the dvd chapters but I am obsessed with the chapter inserts. I always open a dvd as soon as I get it just to see if it has an insert.
I get like that a bit, too. Fortunately, most UK discs these days are in transparent cases, which means that they'll have chapters/bonus features listed inside. Although Disney UK have decided to dump listings of chapters altogether lately in any shape or form; even with the big releases like Bambi and The Incredibles :angry:
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danamichelle wrote:I am obsessed with the chapter inserts.
Oh yeah. I forgot to say I have a whole box full of almost all my chapter inserts and booklets from every DVD I own. The only ones I've lost are the Jawbreaker and Heathers: THX ones.
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No matter how many times I've seen the movie. I always manage to open a DVD, pull out the chapter insert and read the chapters and look at the colorful pictures and designs.
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Lazario wrote:
Zoltack wrote:But I believe that if you're gonna watch a movie you might as well watch the whole thing. Am I right?
Absolutely. I just think, even more than anything else, we need chapters because life is unpredictable. I have to leave or get up frequently during watching movies, I have a hectic life, my free time is not my own. So I have to stop watching movies I've yet to finish. I don't like having to stop watching, unless the movie sucks, but that makes chapters even more important. And I know very few people who have a lot of time to watch whole movies on DVDs with 8 to 12 chapters, it's just a safeguard.
Well, when you watch a movie you gotta commit the time to watch the whole thing. I hate when people stop the movie while I'm watching it. For example my dad he stops the movie, plays with the volume and what not. It is impossible to watch a movie with that man. But everyone is different and I say if it make the movie more enjoyable for you then do it. :)
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I totally agree, Zoltack. But what I'm saying is some people who divy up chapters don't take their jobs very seriously. And I would commit more of my time if I had it. It's something I've come to deal with, I still enjoy watching what I get to watch and I still get to watch whole movies. It's just that frequently while watching, there's an emergency. I deal with pets, people that are not in good health, I do a lot of favors for people, and whether you believe it or not, it's always a matter of they don't have the time to reschedule when it's convenient for me. My life particularly is hectic. And since I do watch a lot of movies and such, I run into this problem a lot.
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Lazario wrote:
danamichelle wrote:I am obsessed with the chapter inserts.
Oh yeah. I forgot to say I have a whole box full of almost all my chapter inserts and booklets from every DVD I own. The only ones I've lost are the Jawbreaker and Heathers: THX ones.
You don't keep your dvds in there cases :?
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danamichelle wrote:You don't keep your dvds in there cases :?
Of course I keep the discs in the cases... I'm saying it's the inserts that I move. The pieces of paper inside with the chapter listings and sometimes ads and short liner notes / essays.
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In my case.... not like an obsession per se, but whenever I'm going to buy a movie I don't pick the one in the front. I usually pick one that's near the last one.

Things I actually hate:

1. double sided DVDs: 2 times the chances of getting it full of dust, fingerprints and scratches.

2. "clear labels": by this I mean DVDS where the design on top of the movie is just the name of the movie and/or just some design put on top of the disc, leaving it open for dust and scratches; just like double sided DVDS.

3. slipcases that just replicate the DVD cover: like the one for Mulan. Not only this is just a lazy effort but also it is a waste of money and material.

4. packagings that don't hold the discs: like the third season of The Simpsons.



.... and when the only stores near you don't sell the movie/ TV show you want and you have to either travel to another place to get it (wasting time, gas and sometimes having to pay more for it). Or have to place the order in the Internet and you have to wait to get it when you want the movie at the moment.
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I too love DVD chapters! I remember when I was obsessed with Pirates of the Carribean and for some reason I wanted to remember all the DVD chapters, and I eventually did! (Even thought there were only 16! :P)

I think lord-of-sith made an excellent point that alot of times DVDs have hardly any chapters, or they just divide the chapters poorly. But overall I love DVD chapters! :D
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lord-of-sith wrote:
Lazario wrote:I used to do that too, Dana. But now every company is flaking when it comes to inserts. It just used to be MGM that said forget about 'em. What company's doing that now? Warner?
Ones I know of off the top of my head:

Paramount: Lemony Snicket's a Series of Unfortunate Events

Universal: Peter Pan, The Cat in the Hat
I remember Paramount actually made a big thing about how they stopped making chapter inserts, and how it would start January 1, 2004. One of their best chapter inserts was for the first Titanic release, and I'm thinking about finding a good used copy of Titanic, just so I can put the chapter insert in the new edition once it comes out. Most of their older DVDs (released pre-2004) also have been losing inserts, I'm guessing they're either recalling them to remove the inserts, or packaging newer copies without the inserts and trading them in for the old ones.

WB stopped with inserts for most titles, but in my Band Wagon DVD, it actually had a 4 page insert about the movie.

Anyone have the insert for The Princess Bride (pre-SE) and want to get rid of it? The SE doesn't have one, and I just like having inserts.

20th Century Fox still does inserts, thankfully. And so does Disney.

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Timon/Pumba fan wrote:I too love DVD chapters! I remember when I was obsessed with Pirates of the Carribean and for some reason I wanted to remember all the DVD chapters, and I eventually did! (Even thought there were only 16! :P)

I think lord-of-sith made an excellent point that alot of times DVDs have hardly any chapters, or they just divide the chapters poorly. But overall I love DVD chapters! :D
Oh yeah, we all love them. It would be so cool if some companies would or could make a program that allowed viewers to manually program their own chapters. And that it would be possible to actually alter the arrangement in the future. And viewers would even be allowed to even type in the names for the chapters. Numbers would represent groups of letters, like on a telephone, and you'd use the arrows to pick from the 3 or 4 letters on the number, where you would spell out the names of the chapters for whatever chapters you have selected.
Escapay wrote:I remember Paramount actually made a big thing about how they stopped making chapter inserts, and how it would start January 1, 2004. Most of their older DVDs (released pre-2004) also have been losing inserts, I'm guessing they're either recalling them to remove the inserts, or packaging newer copies without the inserts and trading them in for the old ones.
That is so ridiculous. But then, any absurd behavior perpetrated by Paramount doesn't surprise me one bit. They are the 2nd worst major studio releasing DVDs. Here's my list of the worst:

1. Columbia-TriStar
2. Paramount
3. Hollywood/Touchstone/Dimension



But I remember most chapter break groups on a bunch of my DVDs. Right here, right now, I can think of exactly where the Jawbreaker DVD chapter breaks begin and end and continue. Because it was one of my first DVDs. I guess it was that DVDs lack of special features that made me have to find something else interesting about the DVD to keep me interested in DVDs as a whole.

Jawbreaker's 28 chapter breaks: 2. jawbreaker being shoved into Liz's mouth, 3. Courtney and girls walk into high school Girls' bathroom, 4. camera cruises the isle of Julie's English class while Julie looks guilty, 5. Fern Mayo knocks on Ms. Sherwood's door, 6. Courtney's car parks around Liz's brick walkway (camera looks up at girls' rear ends), 7. Marcie stretches on glove as she kneels over Liz's corpse, 8. Fern walks up Liz's stairs, 9. Courtney walks to elevated lunch table as Fern takes out brown paper bag, 10. Zack's car drives down road to Julie's house, 11. Julie on bed looking at photos, 12. hunky Dane perks lips and strips off pants, 13. camera swirves into Marcie's home dining room as she talks with father, 14. Courtney sitting in police station interrogation room, 15. Vera Cruz close-up on couch, 16. football player in orange jersey runs past Vylette walking up stairs greeted by Tatianna Ali's character, 17. Zack sits on stage as Julie enters room, 18. Vera Cruz and Vylette sitting opposite each other in interrogation room, 19. Courtney in purple dress putting coins in booth telephone, 20. Julie walking up to her usual classroom seat, 21. Zack's car drives into abandoned drive-in, 22. Courtney walks Vylette into Girls' bathroom and slams her against mirror, 23. Zack driving down town streets as wind blows through Julie's hair, 24. camera pans out of b&w photos of Fern Mayo with the caption "Who is Vylette?" underneath, 25. camera looking down on hand-holding couples walking across school parking lot at night, 26. Julie sitting on bed playing with Rubix cube, 27. Ms. Sherwood takes the mic to announce Prom King & Queen, 28. Courtney being booed and cursed off-stage.
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Escapay wrote:
WB stopped with inserts for most titles, but in my Band Wagon DVD, it actually had a 4 page insert about the movie.
When the WB switched to single-disc Amaray cases, they didn't include chapter inserts in any of them. They only included inserts for their two disc SE's, and then stopped making inserts altogether. I can deal with no chapter inserts for Amaray cases than getting a movie packaged in the hated snapper case that has the chapter listing.

As for scene selections, Fox and Warners are quite generous with the scene selections placed on their DVDs most of the time. However, with a few exceptions, Paramount and Disney skimp on them with their live-action titles. Universal's chapter selections are pretty good (and they give 20 chapters to movies under 2 hours), but they are pretty skimpy as well.

But I love it when the studio goes out of their way to place chapters in their TV show releases, such as Fox. They are always reliable, because a 20 minute show gets 5-6 chapters, and a 40 minute show gets 12-15 chapters. And they're well-timed, too.
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azul017 wrote:When the WB switched to single-disc Amaray cases, they didn't include chapter inserts in any of them. They only included inserts for their two disc SE's, and then stopped making inserts altogether.
Oh no...will this mean Harry Potter 4 won't have a chapter insert?
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azul017 wrote:As for scene selections, Fox and Warners are quite generous with the scene selections placed on their DVDs most of the time. However, with a few exceptions, Paramount and Disney skimp on them with their live-action titles. Universal's chapter selections are pretty good (and they give 20 chapters to movies under 2 hours), but they are pretty skimpy as well.
I have noticed that. And while I have no problem with companies that don't put a ton of chapters on a movie, I just think usually those companies don't understand that chapter programming is an art. If you're not going to try, get someone else in the booth. Sheesh!
azul017 wrote:But I love it when the studio goes out of their way to place chapters in their TV show releases, such as Fox. They are always reliable, because a 20 minute show gets 5-6 chapters, and a 40 minute show gets 12-15 chapters. And they're well-timed, too.
I know, that's very cool. Anchor Bay doesn't even do that, all the 40-minute episodes of Xena and Hercules and Highlander get the 5 chapters, which are actually not that bad. But still, they could sneak another 2 in for the 40-minuters. There should also always be a chapter separating the show post-credits / title sequence and pre-end credits. Which is where I suggest the other 2 chapters go in. Warner Bros. chapters on BBC TV shows are almost perfect.
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Lucas is quite generous with chapters... I mean, 50 per Star Wars film. That's quite a lot!
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That might just be 20th Century Fox. All the Alien films had generous chapters, at least the extended cuts. Also, I believe the Predator films had quite a few, plus when the two Fly special editions come out, those movies will surely have more chapters than on their double feature.
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Oh... I see. I thought that Lucas had control about what's featured in his DVDs and how they are featured. Guess I was wrong! :)
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Oh yeah he does. But maybe he's not responsible for the chaptering on the DVDs. If you ask me, it seems like the chapters were done by one of the film series' rabid fans who just happens to work at 20th Century Fox.
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Lazario wrote:That is so ridiculous. But then, any absurd behavior perpetrated by Paramount doesn't surprise me one bit. They are the 2nd worst major studio releasing DVDs. Here's my list of the worst:

1. Columbia-TriStar
2. Paramount
3. Hollywood/Touchstone/Dimension
Man, Columbia-TriStar is the WORST when it comes to DVDs. Like Paramount, they list all the technical specs (aspect ratio, languates, subtitles/captions, etc.) as the "Special Features", so I've taken to reading usually the second half of bonus features. And like Disney, they offer bonus trailers...for other movies, but not the actual movie you bought. And I'm still bitter that they decided to give Annie the P&S treatment for the reissue.

Paramount does a good job, sometimes, on their special editions, especially for Star Trek, Top Gun, Forrest Gump, and a couple of their old movies, like Sunset Boulevard and To Catch A Thief. But the majority of their catalogue titles are completely barebones.

Hollywood/Touchstone/Dimension all are part of Disney, who kinda hovers between great, excellent, and lousy when it comes to DVD releases. Where the hell is that Spy Kids SE? And why the hell would they release a barebones Sin City months before the SE? And a little off topic, but do they still use the Hollywood Pictures banner or have they discontinued that?

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I have 3 Columbia/Tri-Star DVDs, and they all have the trailers for the movie on the DVD. They're just in the section of trailers and not listed as a bonus feature on the packaging.

Paramount is bad when it comes to their catalogue DVDs. *cough Clue and Breakfast at Tiffany's cough*
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