Tangled (formerly Rapunzel) Discussion - Part II

[Neal]

Stunning!

[singerguy04]

OMG these 2 new images are such a breath of fresh air! please keep 'em comin' Disney!!!!!!

[Sotiris]

[robster16]

a video from Glen Keane's speech to the animation crew at the almost done with Tangled lunch party a few days ago:

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[blackcauldron85]

First off, let me just say that Rob, your posts should have spoiler alerts on them. Just saying. Some people are sensitive.


But:

:pink::pink: for more details! I love it. I love Rapunzel, the character, so much right now, just from that little blurb. <3

John Kricfalusi, key talent behind MIGHTY MOUSE THE NEW ADVENTURES, and creator of REN & STIMPY, had a post about TANGLED on his web site, which ended up with more responses than anything else he's had there for a long time.

Link please? I Googled his website but can't find that post...

I was surprised to see the movie open with a prologue that reffers to some of the classic Disney opening sequences, complete with a narrator and everything. It reminded me of Beauty and the Beast and I'm sure that the final version will be splendid.

:faint:


I LOVE the picture posted to Facebook. LOVE it.


If Glen Keane is happy, then I am happy. I'm glad that he seems to be happy with the film. I would LOVE to read (or conduct ) an interview with him where he can be totally honest about his thoughts on the whole production.

[mawnck]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but am I right in thinking that Tangled has had more test / preview screenings than any other movie of recent times ? Or do all films have as many, just Tangled's information has leaked more so than other films ?

Only 3 AFAIK, and the one in France showed only 20 minutes. Par for the course for animation, from what I understand.

In exchange for the stolen goods he brought with him and she took from him, Rapunzel demands Flynn to take her outside the tower to see the mysterious lanterns which populate the sky on the evening of her birthday.

I think this is the first time this plot point has been revealed? I know it's the first I've heard of it, because that one piece of concept art has always intrigued me. Very excited to see this particular scene in the movie.

As well you should be. Even in rough animation, the lanterns in the sky were breathtaking.

Yep, looks like the officially approved spoilers are starting to come out. Nothing major here, though. It's all setup to the main story. If you consider this a spoiler to be avoided, better go ahead and turn off your computer now.

I have no inside info, but I betcha we have another trailer - a more accurate one - gonna drop any second.

[Disney Duster]

The new art we've seen certainly is gorgeous.

No, they didn't stray far...

I said this is the farthest they have strayed. If you stray farther and farther, well, you know it won't look like the original story at all any more if that happens.

The others aren't fairy tales or fairy tale films except Pinocchio

No, Pinocchio wasn't a fairy tale either. It was written in 1883. A flapper with a bit part doesn't qualify.

The Grimm's didn't call their original "household tales" fairy tales either. I would call the original Pinocchio a fairy tale. Anyway, the way Disney did Pinocchio was like a fairy tale and it's become one now.

Why do we love Disney and not any other studio?

It must be ignorance of what else is out there.[/quote]
I should have specified - what makes Disney a different studio and not just any studio? I don't deny that other studios can be just as good as them, it's about what can they do that is, if not better, different, that only they can do (though they usually do do better than most others, too, they're just in the top quality).

That's one of the funniest things I've read, maybe ever. I definitely need to incorporate that into my "We're having a lull in conversation, we need something to say" repertoire.

Amy, they aren't really calling her dirtface. It really more like a way of saying "Cinder girl". The "ella" is just a feminine ending. Remember, the one sister called her Cinderwench, the nicer sister called her Cinderella, a much nicer name. And in the Disney version she may even have been born with this name, because "cinder girl" is kind of nice when you think about how it's the remnants of burning wood combined with a girl.

[Super Aurora]

The lantern in the sky(or water?) reminds me of the pokemon episode, Ghost of Maiden Peak. Which in turn is based on a Japanese summer festival event where they put lantern on small boats to symbolize the dead passing on.

The concept art of the lantern clearly reminds me of this.

[robster16]

new on the Disney/Tangled related facebook pages:



The Tangled Tour is making a stop at the Snuggly Duckling--a local watering hole frequented by the most surprising clientele!

[Jay]

She seems to fit in well with the other ladies. However I feel that she isn't as pretty as alot of the others. She isn't ugly but not as pretty as Cindy, Belle, Ariel or Tiana.

[mawnck]

The Tangled Tour is making a stop at the Snuggly Duckling--a local watering hole frequented by the most surprising clientele!

Dear Disney peoples ...

Since you've decided to go and spoil the cute throwaway joke about the name of the tavern, how about going whole hog and giving us a preview of the production number that takes place inside? I predict there will be rejoicing in the streets if you do, and it won't even scare off the boys.

[blackcauldron85]

That's one of the funniest things I've read, maybe ever. I definitely need to incorporate that into my "We're having a lull in conversation, we need something to say" repertoire.

Amy, they aren't really calling her dirtface. It really more like a way of saying "Cinder girl". The "ella" is just a feminine ending. Remember, the one sister called her Cinderwench, the nicer sister called her Cinderella, a much nicer name. And in the Disney version she may even have been born with this name, because "cinder girl" is kind of nice when you think about how it's the remnants of burning wood combined with a girl.

I just thought that it was funny when he posted it.

[Scarred4life]

She seems to fit in well with the other ladies. However I feel that she isn't as pretty as alot of the others. She isn't ugly but not as pretty as Cindy, Belle, Ariel or Tiana.

Well, it isn't a very good picture of most of the girls, including her.

[The Little Merboy]

I like that Ariel is wearing that dress, in the photo. You never see her in it

[UmbrellaFish]

I like that Ariel is wearing that dress, in the photo. You never see her in it

That's what I thought, too. It's a much prettier dress than the usual pink one.

I also noticed that Aurora's wearing blue instead of pink, Jasmine's outfit is purple rather than the customary blue, and Cinderella's dress is less blue than usual.

I need to get a life.

[Disney Duster]

I believe that picture was made on Disney Princess Fanpop, which has fas who much prefer seeing the princesses the way they looked in the films. Cinderella's dress should be silver and not just lighter blue, though. Her and Aurora's hair have been made much more accurate, though.

[robster16]

from the Disney's facebook pages & twitter, Going to keep adding updates in this thread:

The Tangled Comic-Con panel is starting right now! Watch your news feeds for the latest new info from the filmmakers themselves! #comiccon

disneyanimation twitter and facebook:

* "Everybody looks at the character's eyes. [Rapunzel] is an innocent, is naive, but has this intelligence, this ability to learn." —Tangled animator Glen Keane #sdcc
* "Rapunzel is a smart, brilliant, talented character." —Tangled director Nathan Greno #sdcc
* Flynn had to be a very worldly character, he had to be a good match for Rapunzel." —Tangled director Byron Howard, #sdcc
* The first thing I did was put Glen Keane's Rapunzel drawings on my desk, and then I had to design Flynn Rider so that they worked together very well." —Tangled animator Jin Kim


* Tangled directors Byron Howard and Nathan Greno talk character and story at the Tangled Comic-Con panel. #sdcc


* Legendary animator Glen Keane discusses designing Rapunzel at the Tangled Comic-Con panel. #sdcc
* "In drawings, one little pencil line makes a huge difference." —Tangled animator Jin Kim #sdcc
* "Even though this is a CG film, we really rely on the draftsmanship of artists like Jin Kim and Glen Keane." —Tangled director Byron Howard
* "There is something really unique and wonderful that we can accomplish by doing this film in CG." Tangled animator Glen Keane #sdcc

stitchkingdom's twitter:

* Showing various concept art including Rapunzel having a staredown with Maximus #sdcc
* Animators inspired by Ariel. She's a 'real person, girl next door' and relatable #sdcc #tangled
* Flynn was created to balance Rapunzel. Street smarts vs book smarts #tangled #sdcc
* Flynn is a charming individual who can have his way with anyone -- until now #tangled #sdcc
* Glen keane is showing an old storyboarded pitch for the scene where Rapunzel ties Flynn to the chair as in the trailer #tangled #sdcc
* Very funny drawings of Flynn's reaction to seeing Rapunzel for the first time (and Pascal's response to Flynn as well) #sdcc #tangled
* Showing concept art for Flynn Rider. Original by Keane very Gaston-like. #tangled #sdcc
* Another concept art for Flynn is almost a spitting image of Aladdin's profile #tangled #sdcc
* Animators used input from female staffers as to how Flynn should look in the 'hot man game' #tangled #sdcc
* Flynn's final design gets applause -- 'stay in your seats, ladies, it's just a drawing -- don't get excited' #tangled #sdcc
* Even though #Tangled is CG, they relied heavily on draftsmanship. Lots of reference drawings for Flynn #sdcc
* #Tangled was initially pitched to Eisner who insisted it would be CG despite Keane's concerns about translating the art #sdcc
* Showing clips of Keane's exaggerated facial expressions while animating #tangled #sdcc
* Animators talking about dailies being a 'very honest room' and how it 'turns a B+ into an A+' #tangled #sdcc
* Showing progressions of scene where Flynn is initially captured and whipped by Rapunzel's hair #tangled #sdcc
* Keane talking about improving animation by including 'golden shots' taught by 9 old men to draw audiences in #tangled #sdcc
* Showing a #sdcc exclusive scene from #Tangled. Basically the scene they've been describing all along
* Gift from #tangled #sdcc panel is a linked edition signed and numbered print from the film. I have to go pick it up later.

[RodryCroft]

Thank you very much for that info Robster!!!!
Can't wait to see some images or videos =(

[fatcake]

Thanks I'm so excited! Hey has anyone been to the Tangled comic con panel yet, if they had what was it like?

[ajmrowland]

The snuggly duckling?

Sounds toocute.

there could've been other references-the cursed spindle, the poisoned apple(taken), the sinister snailshell. granted those are all villainous, but they're much more tavern-like than Snuggly Duckling.