Nobody's a "judge" of posting, but some people like to think that they can judge a poster based on the size of their DVD collection.
reyquila wrote:Who tells the difference in quality of posts? That's very subjective!!
It's easy to see a difference in quality of posts. There are people like Lars who read up on Disney and is well-versed in discussing animation, and he doesn't make a big deal out of what he owns and doesn't own.
Then there are those who feel the only contribution they can make is announcing every week that they have all the Disney animated DVDs, without offering any insight as to what's good, what's bad, or anything else that most everyone else will discuss.
reyquila wrote:I own the movies and get the watch them. That's objective!!!
Telling people that their opinion is moot because they don't own a movie they're discussing is hardly objective.
Escapay
EXACTLY.
But reyquila...don't you get the point!? If you look at your posts, you're actually still ranting about the money you make and that you "watch all your DVDs". Actually, to tell the truth, your replies seem very incoherent and strange, as if you're being indifferent to everything Escapay and I are saying (which probably you are being).
Escapay wrote:It's easy to see a difference in quality of posts. There are people like Lars who read up on Disney and is well-versed in discussing animation, and he doesn't make a big deal out of what he owns and doesn't own.
That would be me - thanks. I guess it has happened a couple of times that I've bragged about my "Disney bibliography", though.
reyquila wrote:
Well, let me tell a little secret!!! I have a job!!! A very demanding one!! I am an successful management labor law attorney with a fulfilling life and family!! While you lucubrating on not buying this or that because it does not fulfill your masterful expectations, I'm living my life and making the money to buy all of Disnet animated DVD's and then I get to see them and believe me I've seen every Disney animated feature with my kids, and watch then anytime I want to. (That's is possible because I own them).
Julian Carter wrote:
Your reply here almost felt immature and childish for an adult, and this is coming from a 17-year old.... I'm sure a lot of people don't own everything. I don't own all the Disney animated classics. I only have about 20, and they are the only DVDs I possess. I wish I owned them all, but I can't afford it.
Escapay and Julian are too wise for their years. I haven't been in too many threads where Reyquila has posted, but I think Escapay and Julian have handled this situation wonderfully.
Reyquila, I realize your response to Escapay about your big income and the ability to buy whatever DVD comes out was in response to what you perceived as an attack by Escapay. But in reality you came into this thread and discounted everyone's opinions by suggesting that everyone here is a fool/wasting their time (insert your own adjective) if they carefully deliberate whether or not to buy a DVD. To discount other people's reasoned opinions about why they might choose to buy a DVD, so that you can brag about your income is just inconsiderate and small.
Just stop and think about the fact that many here do not have the luxury of a big income such as yourself and you coming in and rubbing it into the faces of forum members is not only hurtful but doesn't reflect well upon you as a person. Humility is a virtue! I'm not saying that you shouldn't be proud of your collection, but to belittle others who have to carefully decide what to spend their limited incomes on is not acceptable behavior. You need to read some Aesop's Fables books and watch some old Shirley Temple movies. I think you are missing some important life lessons.
reyquila wrote:
Well, let me tell a little secret!!! I have a job!!! A very demanding one!! I am an successful management labor law attorney with a fulfilling life and family!! While you lucubrating on not buying this or that because it does not fulfill your masterful expectations, I'm living my life and making the money to buy all of Disnet animated DVD's and then I get to see them and believe me I've seen every Disney animated feature with my kids, and watch then anytime I want to. (That's is possible because I own them).
Julian Carter wrote:
Your reply here almost felt immature and childish for an adult, and this is coming from a 17-year old.... I'm sure a lot of people don't own everything. I don't own all the Disney animated classics. I only have about 20, and they are the only DVDs I possess. I wish I owned them all, but I can't afford it.
Escapay and Julian are too wise for their years. I haven't been in too many threads where Reyquila has posted, but I think Escapay and Julian have handled this situation wonderfully.
Reyquila, I realize your response to Escapay about your big income and the ability to buy whatever DVD comes out was in response to what you perceived as an attack by Escapay. But in reality you came into this thread and discounted everyone's opinions by suggesting that everyone here is a fool/wasting their time (insert your own adjective) if they carefully deliberate whether or not to buy a DVD. To discount other people's reasoned opinions about why they might choose to buy a DVD, so that you can brag about your income is just inconsiderate and small.
Just stop and think about the fact that many here do not have the luxury of a big income such as yourself and you coming in and rubbing it into the faces of forum members is not only hurtful but doesn't reflect well upon you as a person. Humility is a virtue! I'm not saying that you shouldn't be proud of your collection, but to belittle others who have to carefully decide what to spend their limited incomes on is not acceptable behavior. You need to read some Aesop's Fables books and watch some old Shirley Temple movies. I think you are missing some important life lessons.
Anyone find out if this edition will have anything the Gold Collection did not, or even a restoration at least? I'm wondering if I need to add it to my long get list. As it is, it's terrible that I had to add Dumbo purely because they restored it, not a new extra worth mentioning to be found. And my Need to Get list is getting a bit long since I fell behind back when Atlantis: Milo's Return came out. Since then, I've been getting things very randomly in my attempt to catch up, and Disney DVDs are NEVER on sale it seems...
Anyways, I'm pretty surprised at how everyone is making such a big deal out of the edition titles. Who cares about that? Anyways, I think they're cute, but it stinks when the edition offers nothing more than the previous one. If they're going to give them boasty titles, they should be two disc sets. And Robin Hood is a fave of mine, so I'm always glad to here that something about it is coming out. Wish it WAS a two-disc edition. No, it's not in my TOP faves group, but it was one of my top two faves when I was little (before the whole Disney Renaissance). The other was "The Jungle Book." Any movie where Phil Harris voices a bear is bound to be likeable.
Anyone find out if this edition will have anything the Gold Collection did not, or even a restoration at least? I'm wondering if I need to add it to my long get list. As it is, it's terrible that I had to add Dumbo purely because they restored it, not a new extra worth mentioning to be found. And my Need to Get list is getting a bit long since I fell behind back when Atlantis: Milo's Return came out. Since then, I've been getting things very randomly in my attempt to catch up, and Disney DVDs are NEVER on sale it seems...
Anyways, I'm pretty surprised at how everyone is making such a big deal out of the edition titles. Who cares about that? Anyways, I think they're cute, but it stinks when the edition offers nothing more than the previous one. If they're going to give them boasty titles, they should be two disc sets. And Robin Hood is a fave of mine, so I'm always glad to here that something about it is coming out. Wish it WAS a two-disc edition. No, it's not in my TOP faves group, but it was one of my top two faves when I was little (before the whole Disney Renaissance). The other was "The Jungle Book." Any movie where Phil Harris voices a bear is bound to be likeable.
Anyone find out if this edition will have anything the Gold Collection did not, or even a restoration at least? I'm wondering if I need to add it to my long get list. As it is, it's terrible that I had to add Dumbo purely because they restored it, not a new extra worth mentioning to be found. And my Need to Get list is getting a bit long since I fell behind back when Atlantis: Milo's Return came out. Since then, I've been getting things very randomly in my attempt to catch up, and Disney DVDs are NEVER on sale it seems...
Anyways, I'm pretty surprised at how everyone is making such a big deal out of the edition titles. Who cares about that? Anyways, I think they're cute, but it stinks when the edition offers nothing more than the previous one. If they're going to give them boasty titles, they should be two disc sets. And Robin Hood is a fave of mine, so I'm always glad to hear that something about it is coming out. Wish it WAS a two-disc edition. No, it's not in my TOP faves group, but it was one of my top two faves when I was little (before the whole Disney Renaissance). The other was "The Jungle Book." Any movie where Phil Harris voices a bear is bound to be likeable.
I'd say the noteworthy extra stuff on the new edition will be the restoration, the 5.1 Dolby Digital track (before you only had 1.0, or you could buy the Region 2 and you get 5.1) and a deleted alternate scene.
I don't think it's worth upgrading. Firstly, the GC edition of Robin Hood, already had a very good picture, with vibrant colours and sharp lines. And secondly, the new 5.1 mix and the deleted scene do not add much to the disc's value, in my opinion. I'm happy with the GC edition.
I do think it needs the restoration. The GC version isn't what I would call a bad transfer, but there is deffinatley room for improvement. The 5.1 track also matters to me. We have it in my living room and you have to turn the volume up so high to make mono tracks sound audible. I also enjoy a good surround mix, although Disney's mixes for their older films aren't very noticeable, mainly because it is difficult to seperate the track. And, since I love this film, I'm very excited about the alternate ending. I think that out of most of the GC releases, this was one of the lightest as far as supplements go. Adding one extra feature besides a restoration shouldn't be enough to make most people double dip, so I can see why most people won't be replacing their GC version, or even picking this edition up for their first time. Disney is sure to re-release this on the next medium, or on DVD again if neither take off, and it is my assumption that they will throw something else on the disc to make me want to buy it again. If I were most people, I would pass on this version, but I'm not most people and I can't wait so I will get it.
goofystitch wrote:I do think it needs the restoration. The GC version isn't what I would call a bad transfer, but there is deffinatley room for improvement. The 5.1 track also matters to me. We have it in my living room and you have to turn the volume up so high to make mono tracks sound audible. I also enjoy a good surround mix, although Disney's mixes for their older films aren't very noticeable, mainly because it is difficult to seperate the track. And, since I love this film, I'm very excited about the alternate ending. I think that out of most of the GC releases, this was one of the lightest as far as supplements go. Adding one extra feature besides a restoration shouldn't be enough to make most people double dip, so I can see why most people won't be replacing their GC version, or even picking this edition up for their first time. Disney is sure to re-release this on the next medium, or on DVD again if neither take off, and it is my assumption that they will throw something else on the disc to make me want to buy it again. If I were most people, I would pass on this version, but I'm not most people and I can't wait so I will get it.
Gold Collection:
1.33:1 Transfer
English 1.0 Mono
French 1.0 Mono
Spanish 1.0 Mono
Oo-De-Lally Sing-Along
"Ye Olden Days" Cartoon (albeit, colorized)
Interactive Read-Along
Interactive Trivia Game
Most Wanted Edition:
Digital 1.33:1 Transfer
English 5.1 Dolby Digital
Disney Song Selection
Deleted Scene/Alternate Ending
"Ye Olden Days" Cartoon (likely the same colorized version)
"Archery Trivia Challenge" Game
"Rescue Maid Marian" Game
The all-important-though-unjustly-so SLIPCOVER
So...
-We get a new digital transfer which may only be a marginal improvement over the current one
-We get a 5.1 Dolby Digital track that should surpass the mono one
-We still get Mickey Mouse, despite being a pastel-crayons colorized version
-We're losing two useless features that everyone ignored only to gain two even more useless features that everyone will again ignore
-The Sing-along is being slightly expanded though we do have a wonderful thing called Scene Selection that kind of nullifies it
-They throw us a bone in the form of a deleted scene/alternate ending that may or may not even be interesting to see.
Worth the upgrade based on the new transfer and the 5.1: YES
Worth the upgrade based on the extras: NO
Worth the upgrade based on the slipcover: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!
Then again, I don't even have a surround system set up in my home so a 5.1 won't really do me good until I get one, but the new transfer better be nice and shiny otherwise I'll have spent $20 on a coaster.
What SHOULD be on this disc, had they put in the same effort they had done for previous "lesser" titles:
- An art gallery. Sure, you can cheat and say The Jungle Book, Bedknobs And Broomsticks, and The Aristocats are your art galleries, but come on! Disney animation is always fascinating and it's always great to see how the characters and settings started on the blank piece of paper!
- A featurette. There's got to be some material in the archives of talking heads, be it the animators during the production, or just some retrospective interviews taped for something else. I'd even settle for Leonard Maltin in front of a microphone saying "Hi, I'm Leonard Maltin! You're going to watch Disney's Animated Classic Robin Hood! (insert useless trivia for the next 30 seconds). Enjoy the movie!" Fade to black, end. A little effort is better than none at all.
- A trailer. Who am I kidding? Disney doesn't believe in trailers anymore.
BTW, Pluto Region1, you're my hero...er, heroine!
Escapay
WIST #60:
AwallaceUNC: Would you prefer Substi-Blu-tiary Locomotion?
WIST #61:
TheSequelOfDisney: Damn, did Lin-Manuel Miranda go and murder all your families?
Well, I think I do want to get this, though I won't put it too high on my list. Of course, if I would find a good price I would probably go for it (assuming I'm not broke at the time). I wasn't planning on getting Brother Bear 2 so soon, but Wal-Mart had it for 16.99 and I got a 3 dollars off coupon in the mail, so I went ahead and got it. Maybe something like that will happen again, or maybe Amazon will be nice and send me another free DVD. Happens every few years when you write enough reviews. Got Bambi and Snow White from them that way.
Reading through this thread I'm surprised at the general disliking of this film especially coming from actual Disney fans. I think that this movie is the most underated of all the classics.
As a kid it was one I liked a lot and it's one my 3 year old daughter asks to watch a lot more than many of the others. I accept that the animation may not be groundbreaking but it does still have it's moments. It's voiced as well as any and whilst the music may not have instant classic status there's some brilliant little numbers in there. I accept that they cynically tried and failed to make a carbon copy of Baloo out of Little John but surely that's not reason enough to hate this film.
I guess I'll get it, too, since I don't have the GC one and I've always liked Robin Hood.
It realls is underrated ad especially the voice acting is one of Disney's best.
I love Peter Ustinov!!!!
Of course if I had the GC I wouldn't double-dip. I only double-dip if it's really worth the money like aa 2-Disc upgrade, but not if it's again a 1-Disc Edition.
I don't care about the slipcover either, since they somestimes get kinda dirty and you can't get them everywhere, anyway.
cornelius wrote:I accept that they cynically tried and failed to make a carbon copy of Baloo out of Little John but surely that's not reason enough to hate this film.
Are you sure there are that many people who actually dislike or even hate Robin Hood? I guess many of us are "not extatic" and more or less indifferent, though. Which, admittedly, puts RH near the bottom of the pile of Disney's animated "classics".
cornelius wrote:Reading through this thread I'm surprised at the general disliking of this film especially coming from actual Disney fans. I think that this movie is the most underated of all the classics.
As a kid it was one I liked a lot and it's one my 3 year old daughter asks to watch a lot more than many of the others. I accept that the animation may not be groundbreaking but it does still have it's moments. It's voiced as well as any and whilst the music may not have instant classic status there's some brilliant little numbers in there. I accept that they cynically tried and failed to make a carbon copy of Baloo out of Little John but surely that's not reason enough to hate this film.
Well said. I agree. Definitely an underrated flick. And I always loved Little John. Sure, he was a carbon copy of Baloo, but I don't think he was a failure in the role. I thought he fit the part well. I think one of the things this movie really has going for it is the great characters. Who could forget Prince John and Sir Hiss? I loved them, and Robin and Little John, when I was a kid. It's definitely not among my lowest ranking Disney flicks. I LOVE the music too, and I know plenty of people who love this movie. It's more of a comedy in my mind though, and very different from most Disney animated films.
You're right Slave2moonlight!!! There are so many unforgettable characters in Robin Hood, like thumb sucking Prince John and the Sherrif.
And has there ever been a more beautiful fox maid?
Dottie wrote:You're right Slave2moonlight!!! There are so many unforgettable characters in Robin Hood, like thumb sucking Prince John and the Sherrif.
And has there ever been a more beautiful fox maid?
One of the few complete Disney beanie sets I have, ha. Yeah, she's a fox.
OK, I think I've decided for this, fox and hound, dumbo, etc. to not double dip them, enjoy what I have for now, and catch them again on the next media format in several years. The double dipping thing gets to me. YMMV.
