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Little Golden Book read-along video (SPOILERS).

UmbrellaFish wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:56 pm Do we know if Sakina is Sabino’s daughter?
No, Sabino is Asha's grandfather on her father's side.
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D82 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:05 pm
UmbrellaFish wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:56 pm Do we know if Sakina is Sabino’s daughter?
No, Sabino is Asha's grandfather on her father's side.
Thanks, I thought that had been revealed in this thread, but couldn’t remember.
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D82 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:05 pm Little Golden Book read-along video (SPOILERS).
The person reading somehow managed to mispronounce half the names. Just... how? The words are right in front of you!

After watching that video as well, I'm going to post the plot points I don't like:
- grandfather's wish being oddly non-specific, he might have as well wished for world peace :roll:
- the back-and-forth between the castle and the forest -- weird to think that the castle defenses wouldn't have been upped after the first time Asha infiltrated the castle. The final showdown should have happened elsewhere, maybe a secret villain lair?
- it's like, fairly political and a bit Orwellian (absolute power corrupts, unity is strength), but doesn't really commit itself fully to the idea, opting for resolution via fairytale tropes. The King wants to protect the kingdom by doing what he feels is right, but doesn't see how misguided his ways are. And lets not kid ourselves, even in real life, not everybody's wish should be granted (imagine someone wishing for someone else's death), so the King is not really wrong. His sudden turn into a maniacal villain doesn't really feel natural because there don't appear to be any signs of it before? Even the Queen seems taken aback with the heel turn :/ I feel like if there ever was a reason to have a reformed villain, this should have been it, like if he died sacrificing himself.
- the Queen herself seems as bland as they come. Her being either a secret villain/or a deceased spirit would have spiced up the story a bit.
- again, too many characters. I feel the Teens (* shudders *) could have been cut down to, like, two instead of seven, and I don't think it would have impacted the plot as seen in the storybook

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The plot as posted here sounds ghastly!
Dreadful! Anxious to hear your opinions after you see it...
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Maybe the Deluxe Junior Novelization and the film itself will probably be fleshed out more than these other books do. Honestly if I was putting my critical lens on, I would argue that the plot of Wish on paper is no more stranger and vague than the WDAS films from the past 13 years or so. So this isn't anything new to me.

Oh, and to me personally, the endless repeating of the opinion that the visuals are "underwhelming" and "unfinished"; is starting to get very old, very quickly. It's making me yawn more than anything else at this point.
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Musical Master wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:36 pm Maybe the Deluxe Junior Novelization and the film itself will probably be fleshed out more than these other books do. Honestly if I was putting my critical lens on, I would argue that the plot of Wish on paper is no more stranger and vague than the WDAS films from the past 13 years or so. So this isn't anything new to me.

Oh, and to me personally, the endless repeating of the opinion that the visuals are "underwhelming" and "unfinished"; is starting to get very old, very quickly. It's making me yawn more than anything else at this point.
Honestly, saaaaaammeeeeeee man. It's also getting really annoying for me since people are saying that just to hate on Disney. That and they say that the movie is written by ChatGPT which just makes me so :x I really hope this doesn't sound like I'm kissing the ground Disney walks on, I really do think Disney nowadays are greedy and prefer quantity over quality, but still...The movies that used this 2d/3d animation style (Spider-Verse, TMNT: Mutant Mayhem and Puss in Boots 2, love them so much) are all based on preexisting properties and franchises whereas this movie is fully original and they're really trying hard to make this new visual style for the studio. I fully believe this movie will be much more better and beautiful when it's on the big screen instead of a small phone, iPad or laptop, which is why Jennifer Lee said that it should be seen in theaters and cinemas and not in streaming.

I already expected that the books are made for children in mind, hence the simple and streamlined plot, and you know what, I'm even more intrigued with the story. How everyone is made of stars is the one that interested me the most Even D82 posted that plot detail here in this forum when Wish was being shown in multiple European countries. I think it was in the Spanish interview. Anyway, so glad my hype for this movie is being revived more and more and I can't wait to see the art of the movie in the official art book :D

Also, I already expected that Walt Disney Animation Studios will withheld information of their upcoming movies, even when it's near the release. They've been doing that for so many years and even though it frustrates some, myself included, it still doesn't faze me at all.
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I'm willing to bet that her grandfather's wish of creating something that will inspire others will be revealed to be Asha herself.
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I honestly love cheesy endings where everybody helps the main character defeat the villain with the power of their hearts, Pretty Cure anime style

They're very basic but the scene where everybody has a star in their heart can be very powerful and touching if done right

Anybody has seen the ending of the movie Summer Wars?
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In the Magic of Dreams book, it says that Bazeema “goes to her quiet place to dream”. I wonder if the movie will expand upon this (i.e. if we’ll find out where this “quiet place” is and what exactly Bazeema dreams about). By the way, I think the illustration of Bazeema in that part of the book is actually better than the one of her on the back cover of one of the other books. She looks pretty much the same but I think they’ve fixed her eyes somehow so they look more cute than creepy.
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I like that one of the artworks shows that all the Teens work at the castle in some compacity. It isn't just Dahlia who works there. Also, the King Magnifico one is so deliciously wicked that I'm starting to think that he does this during "This Is The Thanks I Get".
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Well, after having seen the YouTube-videos of the new books, I must say that I`m with the majority of you guys here: The story is somewhat disappointing. The plot seems too slight, conventional and straight-forward. Overall, it doesn`t seem to be about Asha`s own personal wants and needs. She just seems to a be an object for the events to happening, instead of having the plot revolving around her. But who knows? Perhaps I`m going to find the plot more compelling when I`m ordering the Junior Novelization and seeing the movie?
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Not to be Mr. Negative, but I’m worried that the movie will end up bombing. :huh:

A part of me wants to tell the folks who say it will bomb and/or refuse to see it, “Fine. Go ahead and don’t see it. But if it flops and when they announce another Frozen or Toy Story sequel or more live action remakes, it’s your own damn fault! :roll:
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DisneyFan09 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:32 am Overall, it doesn`t seem to be about Asha`s own personal wants and needs. She just seems to a be an object for the events to happening, instead of having the plot revolving around her. But who knows? Perhaps I`m going to find the plot more compelling when I`m ordering the Junior Novelization and seeing the movie?
I'd argue that Belle and Rapunzel are in the same position as Asha is when it comes to their stories, where they don't have an arc/plot involvement per-say, but still doesn't need one to be fine characters to watch. Wish seems to be about a battle of philosophies/ideas between Asha and King Magnifico on how wishes work and how they should be granted. Quite honestly, I find that a very interesting and engaging story to watch, you don't get Disney Animated films where the hero and the villain seems to be on the same page at first until their own certain actions put them on different paths.

The smaller books for children do tend to leave out certain details that give the story and characters their own interesting nuances. The Deluxe Junior novelization, and obviously the film itself, will certainly fill in the missing blanks for sure.
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DisneyJedi wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:37 am Not to be Mr. Negative, but I’m worried that the movie will end up bombing. :huh:

A part of me wants to tell the folks who say it will bomb and/or refuse to see it, “Fine. Go ahead and don’t see it. But if it flops and when they announce another Frozen or Toy Story sequel or more live action remakes, it’s your own damn fault! :roll:
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Musical Master wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:57 am I'd argue that Belle and Rapunzel are in the same position as Asha is when it comes to their stories, where they don't have an arc/plot involvement per-say, but still doesn't need one to be fine characters to watch. Wish seems to be about a battle of philosophies/ideas between Asha and King Magnifico on how wishes work and how they should be granted. Quite honestly, I find that a very interesting and engaging story to watch, you don't get Disney Animated films where the hero and the villain seems to be on the same page at first until their own certain actions put them on different paths.
Sorry, but I have to disagree with that. Rapunzel was highly in charge of being both a catalyst and an agent to her own story. The plot revolved around her desire to get out of her prison and fulfill her wish by getting to see the device that was her calling. Belle, on the other hand, had a lesser arc, but her experience at the castle was essentially more satisfying than being in her poor, provincial life. Which called for her desire to live in an adventure. And besides, Belle essentially had an arc of her own: She came to realize that there was something good in the Beast all along, something that she didn`t realized at first.
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DisneyJedi wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:37 amNot to be Mr. Negative, but I’m worried that the movie will end up bombing. :huh:
There's no need to worry. The second Wish trailer was the most watched trailer for a WDAS film since Frozen 2. That's an indication the film will perform well. Besides, after Stanger World, there's no place to go but up. Anything better than Strange World's box office results will be considered a win.
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