Ralph Breaks the Internet

[DisneyEra]

John C. Riley is happy that Ralph Breaks the Internet has redeemed the Disney Princesses So, you have a problem with they're looks John?

https://www.ign.com/videos/2018/11/19/j ... princesses

[blackcauldron85]

That John C. Reilly soundalike was so bad! .

To me, it sounded like Kermit the Frog doing a Ralph impression.

The Julia Michaels pop song is growing on me a bit- at first listen, I couldn't even finish it. Then I gave the Karol Sevilla version a listen and I liked it, so I gave the Julia one another shot. I guess it's her voice- I know her song "Issues" & I like that enough...it'll keep growing on me, but it must be my least favorite Disney end-credits song.

[Sotiris]

I'm sorry, but I don't like it at all. The things I disliked the most about the scene are still there. I doubt the second half will make me change my mind about the portrayal of the Pricesses.

The moment where the princesses shout with glee they don't have moms was particularly cringe-worthy, tasteless, and frankly inappropriate. They made a joke out of their moms dying, for crying out loud. What were the filmmakers thinking?

[disneyprincess11]

It’s totally fine you guys don’t like it.

And I'm glad at least you can enjoy it.

And I really really hope I'm not unconsciously forcing you guys to like it. I remembered I got mad at y'all when the girls were revealed. I once again apologize for that. I was mentally and physically exhausted that day and the day ended me getting sick on my dress that I had just bought Yeah, I seriously don't care if you guys don't like it. It's just lonely at the bottom

John C. Riley is happy that Ralph Breaks the Internet has redeemed the Disney Princesses So, you have a problem with they're looks John?

https://www.ign.com/videos/2018/11/19/j ... princesses

Yeah, I don't get why the cast and crew keep bringing their waists up? They literally do nothing to fix it or even bring it up in the movie. Jasmine's waist looks just aa bad in the movie.

I'm sorry, but I don't like it at all. The things I disliked the most about the scene are still there. I doubt the second half will make me change my mind about the portrayal of the Pricesses.

The moment where the princesses shout with glee they don't have moms was particularly cringe-worthy, tasteless, and frankly inappropriate. They made a joke out of their moms dying, for crying out loud. What were the filmmakers thinking?

I personally find that moment funny, but I do get the problem. Especially that we see Anna and Elsa die and mourn for them and we'll explore their mom in the sequel apparently. Even someone on Tumblr or Twitter brought up why would the girls be chirpy about their deceased parents?

[Sotiris]

I personally find that moment funny, but I do get the problem. Especially that we see Anna and Elsa die and mourn for them and we'll explore their mom in the sequel apparently. Even someone on Tumblr or Twitter brought up why would the girls be chirpy about their deceased parents?

Exactly. Like, I get the joke. They're poking fun at the dead mom trope which has heavily been mocked and criticized in pop culture but they're doing so at the expense of characterization, creating in the process unsettling in-universe implications.

[Tristy]

I personally find that moment funny, but I do get the problem. Especially that we see Anna and Elsa die and mourn for them and we'll explore their mom in the sequel apparently. Even someone on Tumblr or Twitter brought up why would the girls be chirpy about their deceased parents?

Exactly. Like, I get the joke. They're poking fun at the dead mom trope which has heavily been mocked and criticized in pop culture but they're doing so at the expense of characterization, creating in the process unsettling implications in-universe.

For the sake of getting away from the cynical side of the net, I'm just going to make a list of all the Disney movies I can think of that don't kill of parents. This includes live action (some of the more major ones. If i listed every one of them, I'll be here all night.), animated canon, Pixar and miscellaneous:

Peter Pan
Lady and the Tramp
Swiss Family Robinson
101 Dalmatians
The Parent Trap (both versions)
Freaky Friday (both versions)
Hercules
Mulan
The Incredibles 1 and 2
Tangled
Brave (Once Upon a Time doesn't count.)
Frankenweenie
Inside Out
Zootopia
Finding Dory
Moana
Coco

Now that I've made that list, Disney doesn't really seem to be so much the parent hating studio that so many people make them out to be. And what's more some of the movies that do have dead moms take place at certain times when death from childbirth wasn't all that uncommon. Also, this is a common staple in fantasy stories period. Frodo has dead parents, Harry Potter has dead parents, the list goes on.

Oh and since we're on the subject of Disney Princesses and in light of some of the recent criticisms made about them, here's a quote from The Disney Odyssey in their article about the little Mermaid

It seems as if viewers complain when female protagonists are ‘passive’ and also when they are ‘active’, when they are ‘kind’ and when they are ‘rebellious’. If protagonists are female, from critical point of view, they are always under scrutiny. It is annoying. Why can’t a character just be what it is … a character?! Characters who have virtues and vices, positive and negative qualities, etc.

https://thedisneyodyssey.wordpress.com/ ... maid-1989/

[thedisneyspirit]

Yeah, but Disnerds and journalists don't give a shit about films where parents are alive if there's no sparkly princesses in a dresss to orgasm over.

And yes, there'll always be scrutiny over the princesses no matter what, even if it's something like dead parents. Meanwhile, male characters like Simba and Hiro can be orphans and do selfish, unheroic acts and people will still praise them for being "brave" and whatnot. (Or just even see how people react to Hercules giving up his godhood to stay with Megara with Ariel staying with Eric)

[WarriorDreamer]

I just hope they don't pull the whole Shrek 3 shit with the princesses where it's more about parodying them & making them look stupid than simply grouping the characters together.

[Sotiris]

Something else that bothers me about the princess scene is that their personalities have been condensed into a single defining trait. They have been so stereotyped here they've turned into caricatures of themselves. Ariel just wants to sing all the time, Pocahontas has her hair blowing in the wind, Belle is bookish, Mulan fights with a sword etc. Not to mention, Walt's princesses have been completely rendered into a (meta) joke because their original personalities weren't convenient or funny or progressive enough for them.

[thedisneyspirit]

Something else that bothers me about the princess scene is that their personalities have been condensed into a single trait. They have been so stereotyped here they've turned into caricatures of themselves.

Manic Pixie Dream Girls? All of them have no trait beyond being cute/wacky and badass? The spunky girl to pair with the jackass male with issues? Cause that's literally what Vanellope, Judy, Anna, Rapunzel, even a little of Moana; are if you want to be really cynical.

[Sotiris]

Learn About the Inspiration Behind the Princesses' Comfy Clothes
https://style.disney.com/entertainment/ ... interview/

[JeanGreyForever]

John C. Riley is happy that Ralph Breaks the Internet has redeemed the Disney Princesses So, you have a problem with they're looks John?

https://www.ign.com/videos/2018/11/19/j ... princesses

Ugh, I wish they could just lay off the princesses. John C. Riley should be defending the princesses the most since they're likely the only reason his film is even getting a sequel.

As for other classic Disney films without dead parents, here are a few more.
Pinocchio
Dumbo
Song of the South
Alice in Wonderland
Old Yeller
Sleeping Beauty
The Aristocats
Tuck Everlasting
The Chronicles of Narnia

You could maybe include Winnie the Pooh there as well.

[Tristy]

John C. Riley is happy that Ralph Breaks the Internet has redeemed the Disney Princesses So, you have a problem with they're looks John?

https://www.ign.com/videos/2018/11/19/j ... princesses

Ugh, I wish they could just lay off the princesses. John C. Riley should be defending the princesses the most since they're likely the only reason his film is even getting a sequel.

As for other classic Disney films without dead parents, here are a few more.
Pinocchio
Dumbo
Song of the South
Alice in Wonderland
Old Yeller
Sleeping Beauty
The Aristocats
Tuck Everlasting
The Chronicles of Narnia

You could maybe include Winnie the Pooh there as well.

I was actually referring to movies that had both mother and father pairings onscreen and alive. Thank you though for reminding me of a few others. And I didn't include Aristocats since Thomas O' Malley is not the biological father.

[D82]

New promos:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fUI8GJf11A

And I really really hope I'm not unconsciously forcing you guys to like it. I remembered I got mad at y'all when the girls were revealed. I once again apologize for that. I was mentally and physically exhausted that day and the day ended me getting sick on my dress that I had just bought Yeah, I seriously don't care if you guys don't like it. It's just lonely at the bottom

Don't worry about that. You're not forcing us to like it, just expressing your opinion. And forget that comment, it was a normal reaction and you didn't say it in a rude way. I remember several members here defended the Princess scene when you first described it, so you're not alone in liking it. In fact, I think the fans who don't like it like me are probably a minority.

The moment where the princesses shout with glee they don't have moms was particularly cringe-worthy, tasteless, and frankly inappropriate. They made a joke out of their moms dying, for crying out loud. What were the filmmakers thinking?

I personally find that moment funny, but I do get the problem. Especially that we see Anna and Elsa die and mourn for them and we'll explore their mom in the sequel apparently. Even someone on Tumblr or Twitter brought up why would the girls be chirpy about their deceased parents?

I didn't know what I didn't like about that particular joke and it was that. If at least they hadn't shown them happy while delivering that line, it would've been more respectful.

Something else that bothers me about the princess scene is that their personalities have been condensed into a single defining trait. They have been so stereotyped here they've turned into caricatures of themselves. Ariel just wants to sing all the time, Pocahontas has her hair blowing in the wind, Belle is bookish, Mulan fights with a sword etc. Not to mention, Walt's princesses have been completely rendered into a (meta) joke because their original personalities weren't convenient or funny or progressive enough for them.

I agree. And, if you notice, the most ridiculed ones are the Walt era Princesses, then the Renaissance ones, and the ones from the current era are almost themselves (from the bits we've seen).

Oh and since we're on the subject of Disney Princesses and in light of some of the recent criticisms made about them, here's a quote from The Disney Odyssey in their article about the little Mermaid

It seems as if viewers complain when female protagonists are ‘passive’ and also when they are ‘active’, when they are ‘kind’ and when they are ‘rebellious’. If protagonists are female, from critical point of view, they are always under scrutiny. It is annoying. Why can’t a character just be what it is … a character?! Characters who have virtues and vices, positive and negative qualities, etc.

https://thedisneyodyssey.wordpress.com/ ... maid-1989/

And yes, there'll always be scrutiny over the princesses no matter what, even if it's something like dead parents. Meanwhile, male characters like Simba and Hiro can be orphans and do selfish, unheroic acts and people will still praise them for being "brave" and whatnot. (Or just even see how people react to Hercules giving up his godhood to stay with Megara with Ariel staying with Eric)

I completely agree with both comments. I understand women have always been oppressed and need more representation and more good roles for little girls. But the roles that don't fit with the standards they seek shouldn't be banned. If people don't have problems with male characters doing those actions, they shouldn't have problems with female ones doing the same. That would be real equality. But I know we haven't reached that point yet where the characters are judged equally regardless of their gender, skin color, sexual orientation, etc.; because there's a lot to be changed in the real world first.

[JeanGreyForever]

I was actually referring to movies that had both mother and father pairings onscreen and alive. Thank you though for reminding me of a few others. And I didn't include Aristocats since Thomas O' Malley is not the biological father.

I figured that's what you meant but I included Pinocchio and Dumbo anyway because those films are special cases since two parents weren't necessary (considering that Pinocchio is brought to life by a puppet and Dumbo is given out by a stork).

[DisneyEra]

Someone from Tumblr uploaded the Post-Credit scene! I haven't seen something that bad since Shrek

http://ivanellopevonschweetz.tumblr.com ... to-miss-it

[JeanGreyForever]

Oh wow that is awful. Like worse than almost anything Dreamworks at its worst has ever done which is saying something. Will definitely not be sticking around for the post-credits scene and that's taking for granted that I don't walk out much earlier.

[DisneyEra]

Oh wow that is awful. Like worse than almost anything Dreamworks at its worst has ever done which is saying something. Will definitely not be sticking around for the post-credits scene and that's taking for granted that I don't walk out much earlier.

Here it is in it's entirety You think your getting a first look at Frozen 2 but your just getting Rick-Rolled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szivws5 ... outu.be&a=

[Farerb]

Oh wow that is awful. Like worse than almost anything Dreamworks at its worst has ever done which is saying something. Will definitely not be sticking around for the post-credits scene and that's taking for granted that I don't walk out much earlier.

Here it is in it's entirety You think your getting a first look at Frozen 2 but your just getting Rick-Rolled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szivws5 ... outu.be&a=

Wow, that's really annoying.
in addition, Frozen 2 will eventually come out, but that dated joke will remain forever.

[Sotiris]

And, if you notice, the most ridiculed ones are the Walt era Princesses, then the Renaissance ones, and the ones from the current era are almost themselves (from the bits we've seen).

Astute observation. It's because they aren't ashamed of their current princesses and therefore don't feel obligated to poke fun at them. They could have come up with a ton of jokes about them, but they didn't even bother.

I completely agree with both comments. I understand women have always been oppressed and need more representation and more good roles for little girls. But the roles that don't fit with the standards they seek shouldn't be banned. If people don't have problems with male characters doing those actions, they shouldn't have problems with female ones doing the same.

It's because female characters and particularly Disney princesses aren't allowed to be human anymore. They have to be feminist "role models" which means they can't have any flaws or weaknesses. Whereas male characters can run through the entire gamut of human experience and their portrayal can be complex, nuanced and not 100% likeable, female ones are never afforded same courtesy. Hercules is a great example of that. Giving up his demi-god strength for a woman and endangering the world in the process is viewed as something heroic and admirable whereas Ariel giving up her voice to pursue Eric is considered pathetic and worthy of ridicule.

Oh wow that is awful. Like worse than almost anything Dreamworks at its worst has ever done which is saying something. Will definitely not be sticking around for the post-credits scene and that's taking for granted that I don't walk out much earlier.

The entire movie is much worse than anything DreamWorks has ever done because Disney is doing it to themselves in this case. It's one thing for a diiferent studio or company to mock them but Disney doing it validates the naysayers by conceding to their criticisms.

Here it is in it's entirety. You think your getting a first look at Frozen 2 but your just getting Rick-Rolled. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szivws5p5mM

Don't you mean Ralph-Rolled? I wouldn't mind if this was just an online video used to promote the film but putting it in the actual movie crosses a line.