Snow White (Live-Action)

[Vlad]

I wonder why they didn't release a teaser yet. Maybe at the D23 Expo.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I wonder why they didn't release a teaser yet. Maybe at the D23 Expo.

Yeah. Maybe at the D23 Expo.

[PatchofBlue]

I'm sure Snow White and Jonathan will bond over their love for social justice and whatnot.

That is, assuming they even get together in this film at all. Zegler at one point was strongly hinting that the other male lead in this film wasn't Snow's love interest. But maybe, that's one of those things they're changing in the reshoots.

Anyways, it does seem a little late for these to be just extensions of reshoots planned before the strike. I know all of Hollywood is being punished for the summerlong hiatus, but still, eight months after the fact does kind of seem like a long time. I guess there could be some strenuous external factor that made it hard to get everyone back on set, much like "Mermaid's" restart had to be delayed for Melissa McCarthy, but still, feels like a long time.

Literally nothing about this film makes sense ...

[Sotiris]

Sotiris, no, I would not have liked Kit to be a servant with an abusive stepfamily, but as tsom and Divinity pointed out, that's not the kind of stuff a relationship needs to have stuff in common.

I wasn't talking about real relationships, but relationships depicted in film, and specifically ones from Disney remakes where they are usually one-note, lack nuance or are otherwise poorly-executed. Taking Snow White's prince and turning him into Robin Hood under the belief this is necessary in order for them to have things in common and have their relationship be deep and meaningful, as if that couldn't have been achieved had he remained a prince, is a simple-minded idea which shows how the filmmakers working on these films are uncreative and shallow.

[Disney Duster]

I wasn't talking about real relationships, but relationships depicted in film, and specifically ones from Disney remakes where they are usually one-note, lack nuance or are otherwise poorly-executed. Taking Snow White's prince and turning him into Robin Hood under the belief this is necessary in order for them to have things in common and have their relationship be deep and meaningful, as if that couldn't have been achieved had he remained a prince, is a simple-minded idea which shows how the filmmakers working on these films are uncreative and shallow.

Except for Ella and Kit and some of Aladdin and Jasmine and Ariel and Eric, then yes, I agree with you.

[tsom]

I'm sure Snow White and Jonathan will bond over their love for social justice and whatnot.

That is, assuming they even get together in this film at all. Zegler at one point was strongly hinting that the other male lead in this film wasn't Snow's love interest. But maybe, that's one of those things they're changing in the reshoots.

Anyways, it does seem a little late for these to be just extensions of reshoots planned before the strike. I know all of Hollywood is being punished for the summerlong hiatus, but still, eight months after the fact does kind of seem like a long time. I guess there could be some strenuous external factor that made it hard to get everyone back on set, much like "Mermaid's" restart had to be delayed for Melissa McCarthy, but still, feels like a long time.

Literally nothing about this film makes sense ...

You also have to take into consideration the weather. This movie was initially shot March-July 2022, with the aim of coming out March 2024. The reshoots last summer were started with the aim of the film still being released in March 2024. Then the strike happened and wasn't lifted until November 2023, which was in the middle of autumn/approaching winter. If they wanted the film to look consistent with what was previously shot, then reshoots would have to occur in spring/summer 2024 to match what was filmed in 2022 and 2023.

[The Disneynerd]

I kinda agree with Sotiris, especially in terms of Disney making reestablished characters for their remakes more samish with personality and goals, as young people usually also search for something or someone new and u learn from one another, searching for someone with the same interests or goals is usually best friend territory, not love. Its also easier to Filter the selflessness of loving someone with other interests or personality as the relationship gets tested that way more easy. 

Thats why I love romantic relationships like in Beauty and the Beast, they are so conflicted at first and then learn from each other, Beast adapts Belles kindness etc, same with Emma and Sebastian from LaLaLand, different goals but they Support each other and later on depend on each others support for their careers.

Relationships cant really grow or evolve if people are way too similar, it just doesnt work. Imagine if Belle and Beast were both the "Beast" or stuck up, they wouldnt be able to break each other curse, so someone has to take the first step blah blah

BUT there must be a small portion of similarities to make a relationship going, in insecurities, sense of humour or hobbies to have something to bond or cling onto, because if you are wayyy too opposite, its enemy territory.

Perfect example would be Aladdin and Jasmine, both from different worlds, hes poor af and shes a princess and they admire each others lifestyles, but they bond over the fact that they feel trapped in their circumstances. And he shows her adventure and she loves him for who he is and his groundednature unkike those suitors, it would have never worked if he was a real prince in the first place as he would have similar goals like Jasmine and would have probably fallen for a streetgirl as they as they cant give each other whats missing in their lives. And he would have been probably stuck up like other princes.

Just imagine 2 shy people getting together. There would never be a real conversation or they cant get out of their comfort zone and adapt from another if it wasnt an extrovert and introvert together, just like Francesca Bridgerton from...Bridgerton. She and her shy boyfriend were so akward and silent all the time, never talked and married immediately claiming it was true love (only for her to then have a crush on his female cousin out of nowhere...?)

What im trying to say is: 75% differences, 25% sameness = healthy romantic relationship

Long ass Post lol I love playin wannabe analyst

[carolinakid]

I have to agree.... my boyfriend and I are like night and day on most things, but somehow it works and we’ve happily been together since I was 32 and he was 26...

Now that is real life, but in fiction I think opposites attract works for a more interesting relationship.

[Disney Duster]

Well I guess me and my psychology book stand corrected.

[Disney's Divinity]

No, you were right, Duster. But it's true that opposites attract-type relationships are often more interesting onscreen, which is why that's mostly what's depicted in stories. They usually require character changes or twists for the romance to come about that give the story something to play around with.

I actually don't think Jasmine and Aladdin are opposites? In social status maybe, but their personalities are fairly similar. And there are other romances where the characters feel similar that are pretty good. Elizabeth and Darcy from Pride and Prejudice feel tailor-made for one another as much as Jane and Bingley are, the only things standing in the way are their differences in status and initial, mistaken perceptions of one another.

[Thumper_93]

I wonder why they didn't release a teaser yet. Maybe at the D23 Expo.

I think that they are affraid about public reaction to it. They know that people are not happy about it and the only way to get some interest is showing a sneak peak at D23 as you said.

[Disney Duster]

Oh, thanks Divinity! I like what you said.

Carolinakid, don't you and your boyfriend like the same movies? You both go to the same Fathom Events.

[carolinakid]

Duster, of course we like some of the same movies but in general he’s not an animation fan.
When it comes to Fathom events, he’s willing to let me introduce him to the classics (like Baby Jane and GWTW and Fiddler on the Roof, etc., which he didn’t grow up with).
He’s very into current releases and modern films (not animation or
modern Disney in general) , which I couldn’t care less about.
We did see Cabrini in the theater back in April which we both enjoyed. A rare current release that we both wanted to see.
We also both enjoy gay themed films, our favorite being Trick (1999).
Usually he’ll go to a classic film with me and I’ll watching a sporting event on TV with him. He loves the Celtics and Red Sox. That’s how we’ll compromise rather than my seeing a current film with him.
Thanks for asking, Duster!

[Disney Duster]

Ah! I have been countered by the opposite antics of a couple in love yet again! Hey, can I ask why you don't get married? Is it because you think God wouldn't approve? I'm telling you, the God I know would! I try not to be gay and it hurts my brain! He wants gay love! And the ultimate continuation of that is marriage, if you like marriage!

[Thumper_93]

It looks like Rachel finished with reshoot. I also read this:
https://x.com/JimShull/status/1803492159515213921
I don't know if it has been posted before.

[Pokenonbinary]

I dont get why you guys want this movie to be a carbon copy of the original when there are like 20 Snow White live action movies

The only disney princess to have that many

Also the castle in the animated movie was based in a castle in Spain, having Zegler who is half colombian iberian (a spanish criolla basically) makes total sense

[Thumper_93]

Snow White has never been spanish. Taking inspiration from something doesn't mean that the character is from there. Snow white has some things that were popular during the 30s and it doesnt turn her into a lady from 1930. Snow white is not spanish and she's not colombian. America was discovered by the europeans in 1492 and the movie takes place around 1500... The movie is inspired in germany almost all the time. You can watch it in the design of the cottage, the furniture that it has and even the mugs that the dwarfs use.
Rachel's skin doesn't have anything to do with the problem that this movie has. She's a great actress but the interviews that she gave were bullsh!t. She talked really bad about the film and the character and it was not well received by the audience. They are making a movie inspired by the one who started all. The most important film in Disney history. They have to make it with love and respect and having an actress talking bad about the film is not a great publicity for it.
Disney realized about that and they have made reshoots two times, they are affraid about audience reaction with the film and that's a fact. They included the dwarfs as an ultimate recurse in order to attract more people.
They are making a live action version of the original one and people want them to be as accurate as possible.
If we want to see a fighter Snow white we have the Kristen Stewart version. If we want to watch a funny one we have the one that Lily Collins made.

[Sotiris]

According to our source, Snow White has gone through three sets of reshoots as a result of backlash, a terrible original script, poor reception by focus groups and grave concern by a number of Disney executives and licensing partners over just how badly this film might perform. According to the source, these reshoots have attempted the following:

1) Clean up of the original vision to exclude dwarfs from the final product (except for one live actor). Reshoots allegedly occurred at this point to allow for new CGI dwarfs to be inserted into a large amount of the movie. We are informed this was not inexpensive and may have added an additional $30 million or more to the costs.

2) Another set of reshoots was then ordered as a result of extremely poor reception by focus groups who detested the character of Snow White as portrayed in the movie. Again, this is rumor, but we’re told efforts were made to bring in the younger version of Snow White played by a different actress to try to soften the character. This may have even included a new musical number added to give her even more screen time.

3) Finally, a third set of reshoots has just wrapped. And according to our source, these are a result of a movie that was still seen as incoherent and disjointed. The attempt was made to more closely align the film to the original animated feature-length film while still allowing the Zegler version to have a pro-feminist message — albeit one that is softer and less militant.

Our source informs us that one of the driving factors for the third set of reshoots was to reassure Mattel that this would not be a damaging enterprise for the toymaker in supporting Snow White. Reshoots largely occurred before the box office results of Inside Out 2, so Disney was not in a good place for leverage or for providing confidence to partners in their box office post-pandemic abilities. Inside Out 2 may have calmed nerves, but focus groups having seen this latest iteration of Snow White also have given top executives at Disney reason to hope they’ve turned a corner. Allegedly, they have sunk nearly $400 million in production of the film (not including marketing), but many believe they just might get a win with another Barbie-style box office sensation. The idea is that by going “soft woke” they can drive mothers and daughters to the box office but simultaneously stay away from hyper controversies that destroyed Lightyear, Strange World and more.

Beyond the focus group results for Snow White, we are told to watch for the big trailer to release with Moana 2 this November. Disney thinks they finally have a winner on their hands and they’re going to drive it towards female audiences as hard as they can.

Source: https://thatparkplace.com/disney-allege ... -disaster/

[Thumper_93]

Honestly release this seems crazy. Even Disney doesn't trust on the movie.
Mattel must be angry about it after the flop of Peter Pan and TLM. All the dolls are on sale at Amazon and Wish was a really flop too.

[PatchofBlue]

It'll be a wonder if this movie doesn't become like the perfect capstone to Disney's parade of shame over the last two-ish years. And the thing is, I'm not going to feel at all validated if this thing turns out to be the laughingstock we're projecting. The back-to-back flops of Snow White and Little Mermaid--the two race-swapped princesses--are going to forever stand as definitive examples of how progressivism in movies "just doesn't work," and this movie's bombing will only confirm to people who have always hated Disney why they have always hated Disney. Nobody is going to win.

This thing didn't NEED to be a disaster. There was considerable talent assembled for this project. They just needed to be content to make a proper tribute to their perennial film.

Anyways, the life cycle of the dwarfs in this film feels like its own mess. Given how reactionary this whole ordeal has been, it wouldn't surprise me if the film was greenlit with the dwarfs in the project only for them to be erased after Dinklage's comments only for them to be re-inserted after this movie's third or fourth wave of backlash.