Harry Potter & the Half-Blood Prince Thread (SPOILERS)

Discussion of non-Disney entertainment.
Post Reply
User avatar
Disney's Divinity
Ultimate Collector's Edition
Posts: 16292
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:26 am
Gender: Male

Post by Disney's Divinity »

Where could they have a portrait of Lucius Malfoy? :? :lol:

Anyway, I can understand why both the funeral and the battle were cut. For one, it would be repetitive to have two big battles at Hogwarts. And they're using the Final Battle as the excuse to get everyone back, so there's no need to waste that on Dumbledore's funeral.

And I actually like the idea of an attack on the Burrow. I always wondered why it never happened in the books.
Image
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ "Elizabeth Taylor"
Katy Perry ~ "bandaid"
Meghan Trainor ~ "Still Don't Care"
User avatar
PeterPanfan
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4553
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:43 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Post by PeterPanfan »

Sorry, I thought this was the Deathly Hallows thread, which is nonexisent anyway, so I have no idea where my mind was.

I kind of like the idea of just Harry, Ron, and Hermione visiting Dumbledore's grave rather than a whole bunch of people there. It makes it more personal and sentimental.
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

Deathly Hollows began official shooting a couple weeks ago.

The test shoot did end up with an accident that injured a Potter stunt-double. I can find the article.
Image
User avatar
magicalwands
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2099
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:24 am
Location: Gusteau's Restaurant

Post by magicalwands »

Disney's Divinity wrote:And I actually like the idea of an attack on the Burrow. I always wondered why it never happened in the books.
Does the attack on Bill and Fleur's wedding count?
Image
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

magicalwands wrote:
Disney's Divinity wrote:And I actually like the idea of an attack on the Burrow. I always wondered why it never happened in the books.
Does the attack on Bill and Fleur's wedding count?
Maybe, but the Burrow never caught fire(to our knowledge).
Image
User avatar
PeterPanfan
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4553
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:43 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Post by PeterPanfan »

Yes, but that's why the said they were "adding it in."
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

PeterPanfan wrote:Yes, but that's why the said they were "adding it in."
That, and the pacing.
Image
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

Just found this on mugglenet! It's a brand-new trailer for the film!

http://wbads-54.vo.llnwd.net/e1/wbmovie ... _Large.mov
Image
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

Oh, and Live Mugglecast in an hour!
Image
User avatar
jrboy
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1245
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:38 pm
Location: Baton Rouge Gender: Monster
Contact:

Post by jrboy »

<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4BDVbxop-eo&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4BDVbxop-eo&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>
User avatar
Disneykid
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4816
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:10 am
Location: Wonderland

Post by Disneykid »

That is, hands down, the best of the Half-Blood Prince trailers. I've loved all the ones released thus far, but for some reason they didn't make me as giddy as this one did. The Katie Bell scene is eerily fantastic, and I'm so glad to have Quidditch back. Snape's "It's over," line is so pitch perfect, and he owns Harry big time after the "coward" line. The cinematography looks absolutely gorgeous, perhaps even the best of the series, which is saying something since I was absolutely gaga for Prisoner of Azkaban's cinematography. I also love how Yates and Kloves are really tying in our world to the wizarding world to show the scope of what's happening. I liked that approach in Order of the Phoenix (the dementer attack under a highway bridge, dump trucks picking up trash in front of Grimmauld Place), but it's being taken to a whole other level here.

I think this may be the only time where a Harry Potter film is better than the book (some like the Order of the Phoenix film more than its literary counterpart, but I disagree). I always wondered how on earth would Half-Blood Prince make a good movie when it feels like it exists to tie up most of the loose ends and pave the way for the finale. By minimalizing the exposition and flashbacks and expanding on the Death Eaters' terror, they've (at least seemed to) manage making the story eventful, something I found lacking in the book until the final third or so.
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

There was a live mugglecast, and they talked about many things, including the muggles, the gollumish-looking inferi, and the crowd scene among others. And the unbreakable Vow, and Malfoy, and picked the whole thing apart, really.

The episode can be downloaded for free on itunes.

I personally, like the previous trailer better.
Image
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

Disneykid wrote:That is, hands down, the best of the Half-Blood Prince trailers. I've loved all the ones released thus far, but for some reason they didn't make me as giddy as this one did. The Katie Bell scene is eerily fantastic, and I'm so glad to have Quidditch back. Snape's "It's over," line is so pitch perfect, and he owns Harry big time after the "coward" line. The cinematography looks absolutely gorgeous, perhaps even the best of the series, which is saying something since I was absolutely gaga for Prisoner of Azkaban's cinematography. I also love how Yates and Kloves are really tying in our world to the wizarding world to show the scope of what's happening. I liked that approach in Order of the Phoenix (the dementer attack under a highway bridge, dump trucks picking up trash in front of Grimmauld Place), but it's being taken to a whole other level here.

I think this may be the only time where a Harry Potter film is better than the book (some like the Order of the Phoenix film more than its literary counterpart, but I disagree). I always wondered how on earth would Half-Blood Prince make a good movie when it feels like it exists to tie up most of the loose ends and pave the way for the finale. By minimalizing the exposition and flashbacks and expanding on the Death Eaters' terror, they've (at least seemed to) manage making the story eventful, something I found lacking in the book until the final third or so.
I agree, except for the "trailer is the best" part. They also only expanded the DE's because of the lack of Daily Prophet articles.
Image
User avatar
magicalwands
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2099
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:24 am
Location: Gusteau's Restaurant

Post by magicalwands »

Bah, Draco's "I have to do this" line didn't go well with the part it was in in the trailer. So it was like wow, wow, wow, draco brings the tone down, wow, wow, wow!

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/ ... ure2-1.png

I'm going to go on a Quidditch rant because I have to talk about this somewhere. Yeah, I'm a huge Quidditch fan.

So the picture is a screen cap from the trailer. So they changed a LOT of the field. The students' seats are raised and two new stands have been added on both sides of the field behind the goal posts. Interesting as to why they did this. It seems to add more people and make it more crowded. That creates excitement I think. From Goblet to Order, it felt dimmed down because there weren't two extra schools of students to make it feel "huge." But man, I love the level of detail they added to the field! So now the drapes will be taken out when there isn't a match going on. There is also a match played in the SNOW! I hope we just get so much Quidditch that we get SICK of it! I wonder if Hooper will bring Williams' Quidditch theme. Probably not...
Image
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

Personally, I wish there was some way in which they could've kept a consistent design for the castle/grounds in all the movies. I love what they've done, but where was the Owlery in PoA? And Hooper seems to have managed to bring more themes than expected. Last fall's preview apparently had "Something Wicked this way Comes", even though that just could be filler.
Image
User avatar
Disneykid
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4816
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:10 am
Location: Wonderland

Post by Disneykid »

The Hogwarts alterations overall don't bother me because, for the most part, they're additions. It only bothers me when they redirect a location we've already visited (Gryffindor common room, Hagrid's hut). Well, I should say botherED (past tense) since those changes no longer annoy me. Ever since Cuaron's Hogwarts facelift, everything's remained in the same spot, so I'm fine, now.

Interesting observations on the Quidditch pitch. The new stadium seating for the students makes so much more sense. In the previous films, it seemed like they had no seats whatsoever; everyone was standing on even flooring. The trench from Chamber of Secrets seems to have disappeared, but that's just as well. As much as I loved the Ben-Hurish chase through it, the pitch as a whole looked odd with it (why would there be such a gap in between the field and the stands, anyway?). Another nice touch is that they relocated the pitch (or redesigned the area) so that it's now approximately where Goblet of Fire's first task was. Since in the book, the pitch had been temporarily transformed into that stadium (if I'm not mistaken), the change makes sense here. The mountains and waterfall make for a more dramatic background than the simple fields from SS and CoS.

And has anyone noticed that the weather conditions get worse with each Quidditch match in the films?

Sorcerer's Stone - Bright and sunny
Chamber of Secrets - Cloudy overcast
Prisoner of Azkaban - Lightning storm
Half-Blood Prince - Snow storm

Too bad there's no Quidditch in Deathly Hallows, otherwise we'd probably get one in a cyclone or hurricane...It also makes me wonder how long this new one will be. We got the whole match from start to finish in SS, the second half of it in CoS, and the tailend of it in PoA. Judging by the amount of photos and footage, I'm hoping we get a full match. I, too, hope Hooper brings back Williams' Quidditch theme. That was one of my favorite themes from SS, and I was sad to see it gone from CoS, which only used the general flying theme. Do we even know if Hooper's coming back for DH? I really want Williams to bookend this series, and he seemed fairly confident last year that he was coming back.
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

I only just noticed, in the shot of the cave being illuminated, that Harry and Dumbledore are not on the far side of the lake, but on the side that's closest to the camera.

And the Quidditch Pitch is not located where the first task was. That was on a mountainside, while the pitch is on more level ground near the mountains. And it was the Third Task that had the Quidditch Stadium, and I love the changes they made there.

The gates are a nice inclusion

And the scene where Hermione hits Ron has it's own music.

And Luna's Lion hat is in!

Bellatrix is dancing on the tables.

And there have been new posters available.
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-st ... lls#photo0

About ten in all(and many more photos). You gotta click right next to the images to scroll through them.
Image
User avatar
magicalwands
Collector's Edition
Posts: 2099
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:24 am
Location: Gusteau's Restaurant

Post by magicalwands »

Disneykid wrote:Ever since Cuaron's Hogwarts facelift, everything's remained in the same spot, so I'm fine, now.
Except the entrance hall transformed into an open area exactly like the one in front of the Clock Tower.
Disneykid wrote:The trench from Chamber of Secrets seems to have disappeared, but that's just as well. As much as I loved the Ben-Hurish chase through it, the pitch as a whole looked odd with it (why would there be such a gap in between the field and the stands, anyway?).
It's to stop student from jumping from the stands after the match to congratulate the players. They installed the trench so they will learn to use stairs. Speaking of Ben-Hur, was Williams' theme for his chase the same beat as the chase with Harry and Malfoy?

Disneykid wrote:Judging by the amount of photos and footage, I'm hoping we get a full match. I, too, hope Hooper brings back Williams' Quidditch theme.
I think Rowling wanted Quidditch to be edgier as the series went on. Actually, er, I was hoping for a whole season of matches. I'm interested to see if they will follow the book plot line for Quidditch. I really would love to see the director just put in Malfoy for ONE last match with Harry vs Malfoy...even if Malfoy in the book was preoccupied with Voldemort.
Disneykid wrote:That was one of my favorite themes from SS, and I was sad to see it gone from CoS, which only used the general flying theme. Do we even know if Hooper's coming back for DH? I really want Williams to bookend this series, and he seemed fairly confident last year that he was coming back.
We'll see how much power Yates have. I do feel bad wanting Hooper to be kicked out, but they kicked Doyle out. Plus, Williams started it all so he SHOULD come back! Sigh...so we'll either be VERY excited or VERY disappointed.
Image
User avatar
Disneykid
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4816
Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:10 am
Location: Wonderland

Post by Disneykid »

magicalwands wrote:Except the entrance hall transformed into an open area exactly like the one in front of the Clock Tower.
Which entrance hall courtyard? Do you mean the area in OotP where Umbridge sacks Trelawney? I was always under the impression that area lead to just a standard hallway that was adjacent to the Great Hall and that the main entrance was elsewhere. Now that I think about it, that area was in Cuaron's film, too. Remember the very end of PoA? Harry tries out the Firebolt in that courtyard. It's not the clock tower one because you see him and the other students burst out of the double doors. The clock tower courtyard just leads to a dark hallway underneath the pendulum. So what entrance hall was there in films 1-3 (or 1-4) that later got changed in 4 and/or 5?
magicalwands wrote:It's to stop student from jumping from the stands after the match to congratulate the players. They installed the trench so they will learn to use stairs. Speaking of Ben-Hur, was Williams' theme for his chase the same beat as the chase with Harry and Malfoy?
That actually makes a lot of sense now that I think about it.

And what do you mean about Williams? Are you asking if his Ben-Hur chase score was similar to Harry and Malfoy's? Williams didn't score Ben-Hur; Miklos Rozsa did (the same composer who also scored Quo Vadis and King of Kings). Either way, there's no comparison. The chariot race in Ben-Hur was almost completely devoid of score despite the amount the rest of that film had.

The music you hear during the Harry and Malfoy chase is mostly original with some echoes of both the flying keys/Cornish Pixies theme as well as the Ford Anglia. The music that comes before that (from the start of the match to the start of the chase) is a re-edited mix of the flying theme (that can heard when Harry catches the remembrall in SS) and the Quidditch cues from SS (but not the main opening theme for it, which I want to hear used again).
User avatar
ajmrowland
Signature Collection
Posts: 8177
Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:19 pm
Location: Appleton, WI

Post by ajmrowland »

Disneykid wrote:
magicalwands wrote:Except the entrance hall transformed into an open area exactly like the one in front of the Clock Tower.
Which entrance hall courtyard? Do you mean the area in OotP where Umbridge sacks Trelawney? I was always under the impression that area lead to just a standard hallway that was adjacent to the Great Hall and that the main entrance was elsewhere. Now that I think about it, that area was in Cuaron's film, too. Remember the very end of PoA? Harry tries out the Firebolt in that courtyard. It's not the clock tower one because you see him and the other students burst out of the double doors. The clock tower courtyard just leads to a dark hallway underneath the pendulum. So what entrance hall was there in films 1-3 (or 1-4) that later got changed in 4 and/or 5?
It's labeled as the "Entrance courtyard" in the OOTP game, and the Entrance Hall is right beyond it and is small. It opens up to the Grand Staircase from there.
Image
Post Reply