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I want to know, why do they show some classic animated films on the disney channel and toon disney, like dumbo, sword in the stone, alice in wonderland, and the aristocats, but not others, like snow white, bambi, fantasia, lady and the tramp, or jungle book?

Is there anything wrong with them that might not be right for airing on tv, or what?
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Simply put, Disney chooses not to air certain films like Snow White on TV due to their popularity. It seems Disney's afraid that the average joe will simply tape the film off of TV, thus rendering the whole 7-year moratorium thing for Platinum DVD's useless. Disney did this even back in Walt's day. Walt only aired films of his that he didn't hold in too high regard like Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. Others like Cinderella he reserved solely for theatrical re-releases to boost box office reception. What confuses me now, though, is that Disney has lately been showing some of their classics (even the big ones) on TV to promote the sequels or other things. For example, Cinderella aired on ABC about 2 years ago to promote the sequel, Sleeping Beauty aired last year to promote The Lion King (?), and just recently, Aladdin aired to promote the DVD debut of its sequels. Now, I understand how Disney wants to gain awareness of their sequels and new releases by showing the original on TV, but do they not realize that they're breaking their own sort of code and allowing average joes to tape them and not buy the DVD's? It's even more bizarre when the TV airing comes up just a short while after the DVD release (Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin...). Or do they have some sort idea that people who see the films will go out and buy them? Disney's logic makes my head hurt.
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besides TV shows, i really don't ever think i have ever recorded a movie from TV. the only reason i would record a show is that if was goingt o leave my house or there were 2 shows on the same time, and i couldn't deside which to watch, other than that i don't record anything from TV. also, i don't think i know anyone who does do this.

the 7-year moratorium thing does make sence as to why they wouldn't show it on tv, but is that the only answers they could have, or is there more?

for me it doesn't really matter, i am the kind of person that if I own the movie, i wouldn't watch it on tv.
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I personally think Disney won't put the popular movies on because Disney has two classes ofr the classics. Poor of Good. If you are poor like: The Black Cauldron, Pochohontas, Hercules, Dumbo, The Rescuers Down Under, etc., Disney will just ut you one three tiems a mont. If you are good like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, you are never one, and if you are it would be once every 20 years.
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The Disney Channel's played Pocahontas before? I know they aired the sequel (blech) but I guess I missed the airing of the original.

They also aired The Hunchback of Notre Dame a few weeks ago and they're going to air Tarzan this Friday at 8PM(?). I'm really sad I missed the former as I don't have the DVD and am waiting diligently for the seemingly inevitable SE to be announced. :/
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castleinthesky wrote:I personally think Disney won't put the popular movies on because Disney has two classes ofr the classics. Poor of Good. If you are poor like: The Black Cauldron, Pochohontas, Hercules, Dumbo, The Rescuers Down Under, etc., Disney will just ut you one three tiems a mont. If you are good like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, you are never one, and if you are it would be once every 20 years.
I wouldn't say any of those movies are really poor.
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Disneykid wrote:For example, Cinderella aired on ABC about 2 years ago to promote the sequel
Also, if you remember, Cinderella was aired on the Disney Channel- I think to promote the 1996 video release...
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Disneykid wrote:Simply put, Disney chooses not to air certain films like Snow White on TV due to their popularity. It seems Disney's afraid that the average joe will simply tape the film off of TV, thus rendering the whole 7-year moratorium thing for Platinum DVD's useless. Disney did this even back in Walt's day. Walt only aired films of his that he didn't hold in too high regard like Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. Others like Cinderella he reserved solely for theatrical re-releases to boost box office reception. What confuses me now, though, is that Disney has lately been showing some of their classics (even the big ones) on TV to promote the sequels or other things. For example, Cinderella aired on ABC about 2 years ago to promote the sequel, Sleeping Beauty aired last year to promote The Lion King (?), and just recently, Aladdin aired to promote the DVD debut of its sequels. Now, I understand how Disney wants to gain awareness of their sequels and new releases by showing the original on TV, but do they not realize that they're breaking their own sort of code and allowing average joes to tape them and not buy the DVD's? It's even more bizarre when the TV airing comes up just a short while after the DVD release (Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin...). Or do they have some sort idea that people who see the films will go out and buy them? Disney's logic makes my head hurt.
If Disney doesn't air their golden treasures on TV, does anybody know why Mary Poppins gets aired a lot? That film is basicly the Disney live-action equivalent of Beauty and the Beast or The Lion King; it's the ultimate crown-jewel with millions adoring it and a reputation as a masterpiece of cinema. How come that film gets shoved in our faces every Christmas or Easter? Possibly the reason why Mary Poppins: 40th Anniversary Edition should be dubbed 41st Anniversary Edition when it comes to England in March. :headshake:

Also, Disneykid, Disney's screening of the animated crown jewels isn't recent. I recall that Pinocchio has been shown on English TV sometimes long before DVD and Disney's classic screening; I remember that my childminder had Pinocchio taped off the TV on the same tape as Alice in Wonderland and that was in the early nineties. I also recall Sleeping Beauty being screened on terrestrial TV in England a few times at Christmas.
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I know Cinderella aired once about a year or two ago. The Great Mouse Detectiev is coming on one of the Canadian networks the sunday for the wonderful world of disney. aladdin was on last weekend on ABC. there are definetly some titles which are reserved but once in a while the majority of the classics are on the small screen.
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orestes wrote:
castleinthesky wrote:I personally think Disney won't put the popular movies on because Disney has two classes of the classics. Poor of Good. If you are poor like: The Black Cauldron, Pochohontas, Hercules, Dumbo, The Rescuers Down Under, etc., Disney will just put you once three times a month. If you are good like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast, you are never one, and if you are it would be once every 20 years.
I wouldn't say any of those movies are really poor.
I don't think they are poor (they are good), but I believe Disney views most of them as "poor" and would like to erase them from memory.
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Wonderlicious wrote:If Disney doesn't air their golden treasures on TV, does anybody know why Mary Poppins gets aired a lot? That film is basicly the Disney live-action equivalent of Beauty and the Beast or The Lion King; it's the ultimate crown-jewel with millions adoring it and a reputation as a masterpiece of cinema. How come that film gets shoved in our faces every Christmas or Easter? Possibly the reason why Mary Poppins: 40th Anniversary Edition should be dubbed 41st Anniversary Edition when it comes to England in March. :headshake:

Also, Disneykid, Disney's screening of the animated crown jewels isn't recent. I recall that Pinocchio has been shown on English TV sometimes long before DVD and Disney's classic screening; I remember that my childminder had Pinocchio taped off the TV on the same tape as Alice in Wonderland and that was in the early nineties. I also recall Sleeping Beauty being screened on terrestrial TV in England a few times at Christmas.
Well, see, it's very different here in the U.S. In the States, popular Disney films such as Pinocchio or Cinderella airing on network television is very very rare. Perhaps Disney doesn't mind so much about European nations, but they seem to be very anal about allowing their golden films to be shown on TV. The only Disney animated films that get shown here are recent films like Tarzan and The Emperor's New Groove as well as "inferior" films like Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. The only time we ever see the big films on TV here is when it's tied in to promote something, usually a sequel.
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Disneykid wrote:. . . Now, I understand how Disney wants to gain awareness of their sequels and new releases by showing the original on TV, but do they not realize that they're breaking their own sort of code and allowing average joes to tape them and not buy the DVD's?
Still even more confusing is when they debut a movie on Disney Channel (like Kim Possible: a Sitch in Time) and then they release the DVD of it a month later.

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Is this the same reason that they do not air hardly any of their classic live-action movies on the Disney channel? I waited for years to get it in my area, seeing movies and old shows like Zorro listed as being on in my TV Guide, and then by the time I get the channel they are all gone. I would love to see some of the Disney films before I buy them on DVD. Occasionally, the Hallmark channel runs them. In the last couple months I have watched the Witch Mountain movies, Ugly Dachsund, Cat From Outer Space, and the original Incredible Journey, but there are a lot of catalogue movies I have never seen.
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Wonderlicious wrote:
Disneykid wrote:Simply put, Disney chooses not to air certain films like Snow White on TV due to their popularity. It seems Disney's afraid that the average joe will simply tape the film off of TV, thus rendering the whole 7-year moratorium thing for Platinum DVD's useless. Disney did this even back in Walt's day. Walt only aired films of his that he didn't hold in too high regard like Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland. Others like Cinderella he reserved solely for theatrical re-releases to boost box office reception. What confuses me now, though, is that Disney has lately been showing some of their classics (even the big ones) on TV to promote the sequels or other things. For example, Cinderella aired on ABC about 2 years ago to promote the sequel, Sleeping Beauty aired last year to promote The Lion King (?), and just recently, Aladdin aired to promote the DVD debut of its sequels. Now, I understand how Disney wants to gain awareness of their sequels and new releases by showing the original on TV, but do they not realize that they're breaking their own sort of code and allowing average joes to tape them and not buy the DVD's? It's even more bizarre when the TV airing comes up just a short while after the DVD release (Beauty and the Beast, Sleeping Beauty, Aladdin...). Or do they have some sort idea that people who see the films will go out and buy them? Disney's logic makes my head hurt.
If Disney doesn't air their golden treasures on TV, does anybody know why Mary Poppins gets aired a lot? That film is basicly the Disney live-action equivalent of Beauty and the Beast or The Lion King; it's the ultimate crown-jewel with millions adoring it and a reputation as a masterpiece of cinema. How come that film gets shoved in our faces every Christmas or Easter? Possibly the reason why Mary Poppins: 40th Anniversary Edition should be dubbed 41st Anniversary Edition when it comes to England in March. :headshake:

Also, Disneykid, Disney's screening of the animated crown jewels isn't recent. I recall that Pinocchio has been shown on English TV sometimes long before DVD and Disney's classic screening; I remember that my childminder had Pinocchio taped off the TV on the same tape as Alice in Wonderland and that was in the early nineties. I also recall Sleeping Beauty being screened on terrestrial TV in England a few times at Christmas.
You guys are so funny it makes me mad :x I always hear the Animated Classic mentioned, and a few of the Live Action Classics which are only 3 of them which are "Mary Poppins, Bedknobs And Broomsticks, and Pete's Dragon" Why can't you discuss more of the Live Action Classics, and loose the empeshis a bit on the Disney Animated Classics ?
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Disney Guru wrote:You guys are so funny it makes me mad :x I always hear the Animated Classic mentioned, and a few of the Live Action Classics which are only 3 of them which are "Mary Poppins, Bedknobs And Broomsticks, and Pete's Dragon" Why can't you discuss more of the Live Action Classics, and loose the empeshis a bit on the Disney Animated Classics ?
Because Disney airs their live action films on TV far more often than their animated ones. Besides, if you want to see more live-action talk, why don't you just start it yourself as opposed to accusing people who aren't?
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It's real simple. Disney is known for their animation. Here in Europe, at least in my experience hardly nobody knows any of the live action Disney classics. The only one they can come up with is Mary Poppins wich isn't even completely live action. You can't blame people for not being aware or into their live action movies. But yeah, if you want to discuss them, start a thread, I'm pretty sure lots of people do want to discuss them once a thread is there. :)
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Disneykid wrote:
Disney Guru wrote:You guys are so funny it makes me mad :x I always hear the Animated Classic mentioned, and a few of the Live Action Classics which are only 3 of them which are "Mary Poppins, Bedknobs And Broomsticks, and Pete's Dragon" Why can't you discuss more of the Live Action Classics, and loose the empeshis a bit on the Disney Animated Classics ?
Because Disney airs their live action films on TV far more often than their animated ones. Besides, if you want to see more live-action talk, why don't you just start it yourself as opposed to accusing people who aren't?
Ok I will just do that. Sorry I flipped about the issue.
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well. THE BLACK CAULDRON is definitely not a "poor" movie. I´v seen it this summer and was amazed!!!

All I can tell you to this topic is. That I dont have to be afraid to see any of the disney classics on TV.

We in the Czech Republic dont have a Disney Channel (even I would kill for that).

We got only czech version of HBO and HBO 2. They sometimes present Disney classics. I remeber that thay aired ATLANTIS THE LOST EMPIRE, MARY POPPINS, and THE PIGLETS BIG STORY. The last one was aired on december 24th 2004. What a nice time to see a disney classic. Dont you think so?
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When my parents got cable (I think it was in the '80s.), we saw all kinds of things on the Disney Channel. Each month had certain features shown over again during that month: The Rocketeer, The Black Hole, Summer Magic, etc.... plus Mousterpiece Theater (George Plimpton hosted a cartoon shorts program) and various programs that showcased the Disney shorts.

Then, when my wife and I got our satellite subscription, it included 3 Disney Channels and I was looking forward to all I'd get to see! Come to find out, most of the programming was aimed at pre-teen girls or showed Disney "after school" cartoon series. Classic shorts were aired in the wee hour of the morning. Finally they started showing Friday night movies.

A few years ago, Disney promoted their theme parks saying (I'm paraphrasing.), "Remember the memories you had here as a child? Share it with your children." Well, those of us they were talking to surely yearn for some older Disney fare on TV!

I wonder, do they keep older movies, etc. away from us so as not to harm DVD sales/protect copyrights? On one hand, I think so, and I certainly understand -- hey, I like the Walt Disney Treasures! But yet they do allow Hallmark to show some things. I'd like to watch the wealth of movies and shows Disney has done throughout its history: The Mickey Mouse Club, The Wonderful World of Disney, Dr. Syn, Treasure of Matacumbe... and on and on.
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C3PO wrote:When my parents got cable (I think it was in the '80s.), we saw all kinds of things on the Disney Channel. Each month had certain features shown over again during that month: The Rocketeer, The Black Hole, Summer Magic, etc.... plus Mousterpiece Theater (George Plimpton hosted a cartoon shorts program) and various programs that showcased the Disney shorts.

Then, when my wife and I got our satellite subscription, it included 3 Disney Channels and I was looking forward to all I'd get to see! Come to find out, most of the programming was aimed at pre-teen girls or showed Disney "after school" cartoon series. Classic shorts were aired in the wee hour of the morning. Finally they started showing Friday night movies.

A few years ago, Disney promoted their theme parks saying (I'm paraphrasing.), "Remember the memories you had here as a child? Share it with your children." Well, those of us they were talking to surely yearn for some older Disney fare on TV!

I wonder, do they keep older movies, etc. away from us so as not to harm DVD sales/protect copyrights? On one hand, I think so, and I certainly understand -- hey, I like the Walt Disney Treasures! But yet they do allow Hallmark to show some things. I'd like to watch the wealth of movies and shows Disney has done throughout its history: The Mickey Mouse Club, The Wonderful World of Disney, Dr. Syn, Treasure of Matacumbe... and on and on.
Hey thats neat, I have about 30 episodes of Mousterpiece Theatre, recorded that my mom recorded for me when I was a baby. That was a cute show.
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