Mickey Mouse in Black and White volume 2

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bmadigan
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Mickey Mouse in Black and White volume 2

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I was watching the cartoon "The Shindig" from the MMBW2 set, and I was shocked to see the picture frame creeping as if I were watching a film which had bad sprocket holes on a bad projector. The frame would creep up and then jump back multiple times. Also the frame was not cropped as if it had been filmed off a movie screen and all edges were visible.

I was surprised that they didn't clean up these kind of artifacts. Does anyone have any other info on this?

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Post by Jack »

A jerk in the picture frame is something reletively common with very old cartoons - as I recall, MMIB&WV1 had a few cases of this as well. As far as I know, there's no way they could've "cleaned it up", unless they were to just skip the jerks all together, which would leave gaps in the animation.
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Post by bmadigan »

Jack wrote:A jerk in the picture frame is something reletively common with very old cartoons - as I recall, MMIB&WV1 had a few cases of this as well. As far as I know, there's no way they could've "cleaned it up", unless they were to just skip the jerks all together, which would leave gaps in the animation.
No. this is like the effect you would get on a projector if one of the film loops got too small. The frame became misaligned to the point that the top of the frame was visible under the bottom of the picture.
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Post by MK Sharp »

I was also surprised to see the film running out of rack (to use a technical term), especially since with a bit of digital restoration it should have been reasonably easy to fix - just pull the picture down and copy the top of the picture from a good frame nearby. ("Just", he says...!)

It's things like this - like the poor telecine of "Victory Vehicles" on 'The Complete Goofy' and 'On The Front Lines' which is zoomed in too far, cropping the picture - that disappoint me much more that white alpha cases or the lack of blue bands.
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Post by ichabod »

I have to say I didn't mind, the crackly sound on the early shorts, or the dirty picture in some others, but this really annoyed me! It's very distracting!
orestes.

Post by orestes. »

This morning when I was watching one of the shorts, I forget which one on the MMB&Wv.II I saw a signature pop up at the bottom for a quick second. IT was interesting and I should have paused it to see whose it was but I never did. Oh well I'll do that later. :)
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