What non-Disney animation do you like?
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What non-Disney animation do you like?
I was curious to see if most people here were strictly Disney fans, or if they liked other animation as well.
Personally, while I have a decent collection of animated and non-animated Disney (for me, not any kids,) I don't consider Disney to be the pinnacle of my collection.
I am also a huge anime fan, and I enjoy the classic cartoons from Warner Bros, MGM, and others. I also like the "adult" TV animation, like South Park, The Critic, Dilbert, The Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, etc.
I don't really consider them Disney, but I have all of the Pixar films out so far, as well as many of the CG films from other studios.
I also enjoy claymation and puppets/Muppets/marionettes, although I don't have many discs yet for most of these.
Personally, while I have a decent collection of animated and non-animated Disney (for me, not any kids,) I don't consider Disney to be the pinnacle of my collection.
I am also a huge anime fan, and I enjoy the classic cartoons from Warner Bros, MGM, and others. I also like the "adult" TV animation, like South Park, The Critic, Dilbert, The Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, etc.
I don't really consider them Disney, but I have all of the Pixar films out so far, as well as many of the CG films from other studios.
I also enjoy claymation and puppets/Muppets/marionettes, although I don't have many discs yet for most of these.
I'm a big fan of animation in general, but my favourite films are mostly Disney or Pixar. However, some of my favourites are by Aardman and Dreamworks. Yikes, should I confess to that on a Disney forum?
I prefer 2D animation over CGI, but as Pixar have proved us, CGI can be great when the story is strong enough. I think that my problem with computer animation is that sometimes (at least in the past) the films seem to have been created just for the sake of showing how wonderful computers can be.
Besides 2D, I love claymation and puppet animation. One of my favourite films is The Nightmare Before Christmas, and anything that Aardman have done is brilliant.
Anime is a bit stranger genre for me. I've nothing against anime, and some of the films or TV series that I have seen haven't been too bad at all. I'm just not that into it (yet). That said, with a little more exposure, one might easily end up being swept away by Asian style animation...
There aren't that many big Finnish animators, but if possible, you should check out Katariina Lillqvist's puppet shorts about the history of the Roma people. They're beautifully staged with lots of detail, and the music is positively hypnotising.
I prefer 2D animation over CGI, but as Pixar have proved us, CGI can be great when the story is strong enough. I think that my problem with computer animation is that sometimes (at least in the past) the films seem to have been created just for the sake of showing how wonderful computers can be.
Besides 2D, I love claymation and puppet animation. One of my favourite films is The Nightmare Before Christmas, and anything that Aardman have done is brilliant.
Anime is a bit stranger genre for me. I've nothing against anime, and some of the films or TV series that I have seen haven't been too bad at all. I'm just not that into it (yet). That said, with a little more exposure, one might easily end up being swept away by Asian style animation...
There aren't that many big Finnish animators, but if possible, you should check out Katariina Lillqvist's puppet shorts about the history of the Roma people. They're beautifully staged with lots of detail, and the music is positively hypnotising.
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Like Jack, Disney and Pixar are at the top of my list, but I do give other animation a chance. I'm not a big fan of anime. TV animation doesn't necessarily always make great use of the medium, but the comedy programs that take the animated form are often good, with my favorite being "The Simpsons."
I like claymation, and the Will Vinton Studios put out some good stuff, though I'd have trouble giving you specific examples right now. I love the "Peanuts" specials, although generally, that's referring to those from the '60s through '90s more than the little bit of (not so good) recent ones I've seen. Haven't seen "Wallace & Gromit" but I liked Aardman's <i>Chicken Run</i> a lot.
As far as DreamWorks goes, had <i>Shrek</i> not been so oversaturated and shoved down our throats in the past 3 1/2 years, I might think more highly of it. My initial impression was that it wasn't too bad. I just much prefer movies with heart and soul than those with gags and 'racy jokes'.
I like claymation, and the Will Vinton Studios put out some good stuff, though I'd have trouble giving you specific examples right now. I love the "Peanuts" specials, although generally, that's referring to those from the '60s through '90s more than the little bit of (not so good) recent ones I've seen. Haven't seen "Wallace & Gromit" but I liked Aardman's <i>Chicken Run</i> a lot.
As far as DreamWorks goes, had <i>Shrek</i> not been so oversaturated and shoved down our throats in the past 3 1/2 years, I might think more highly of it. My initial impression was that it wasn't too bad. I just much prefer movies with heart and soul than those with gags and 'racy jokes'.
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I like all kinds of Animation, but i'm the deathie mouse: at the end all films come to me 
From classic Disney to Ray Harryhausen back to Pixel polished CGI to weird crude experimental dark stuff with ferrous magnetic particles, there is something about animation I've always liked, the thing of bringing to life something that's inanimate. Must be some Frankenstein spark thing: It's Alive! Alive!. going philosophical here, animation: our first robots? life made on our own image (and dreams and nightmares and beyond abstraction too)?
Disney becomes like the Mountain surrounded by other peaks and valleys forming a Land
I love all kinds of movies (and books and records). Animation always gets it's own section.
the film from another dimension. a dimension beetween ink and cel a place not yet true but not yet false
A film like Who Framed Roger Rabbit was like a dream come to life, somehow it was true: there existed such a place. Kind also like the premise of the Last Action Hero. My only regret there are not many more movies or shorts like that being done (rights and corporations and style clashes issues
) maybe someday in some future.
Anime is great too not only cus its different somewhat minimalistic style insterspersed with great exageration, but also cus it mainly reflects a different culture which happens with all animation from different countries but mmm being animation some earthbound restraints are set loose and it's different than most regular (live action) films well i'm blabbing on
one thing i can't never get into is South Park
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From classic Disney to Ray Harryhausen back to Pixel polished CGI to weird crude experimental dark stuff with ferrous magnetic particles, there is something about animation I've always liked, the thing of bringing to life something that's inanimate. Must be some Frankenstein spark thing: It's Alive! Alive!. going philosophical here, animation: our first robots? life made on our own image (and dreams and nightmares and beyond abstraction too)?
Disney becomes like the Mountain surrounded by other peaks and valleys forming a Land
I love all kinds of movies (and books and records). Animation always gets it's own section.
the film from another dimension. a dimension beetween ink and cel a place not yet true but not yet false
A film like Who Framed Roger Rabbit was like a dream come to life, somehow it was true: there existed such a place. Kind also like the premise of the Last Action Hero. My only regret there are not many more movies or shorts like that being done (rights and corporations and style clashes issues

Anime is great too not only cus its different somewhat minimalistic style insterspersed with great exageration, but also cus it mainly reflects a different culture which happens with all animation from different countries but mmm being animation some earthbound restraints are set loose and it's different than most regular (live action) films well i'm blabbing on

one thing i can't never get into is South Park

(While looving other "similar" things like the original Ren and Stimpy) (You eeediot!)
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My favorites are from Disney, but I watch other animation.
I like every Disney animation films also Disney television series like Duck Tales, Chip 'n' Dale: Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck and Gargoyles.
I also like to watch Batman, Teen Titians and Justice League Unlimited.
I really also like to watch Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT also other like Sailor Moon, Pokemon and Yugioh.
Others like post 80's shows Transformers and G.I. Joe.
I also like computer graphics like Jimmy Neutron, Finding Nemo and Toy Story.
I usually like action or adventure shows like Gargoyles, Justice League or Teen Titans also Spider-Man, X-men, Incredible Hulk and Fantastic Four from the Marvel lineup.
I like every Disney animation films also Disney television series like Duck Tales, Chip 'n' Dale: Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck and Gargoyles.
I also like to watch Batman, Teen Titians and Justice League Unlimited.
I really also like to watch Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT also other like Sailor Moon, Pokemon and Yugioh.
Others like post 80's shows Transformers and G.I. Joe.
I also like computer graphics like Jimmy Neutron, Finding Nemo and Toy Story.
I usually like action or adventure shows like Gargoyles, Justice League or Teen Titans also Spider-Man, X-men, Incredible Hulk and Fantastic Four from the Marvel lineup.
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I love all forms of animation, and often find myself in the far nooks and crannies of the genre, watching little-known gems and loving them to death. 
Disney and PIXAR are by far my favorite "mainstream" animation studios, but I love all "western" animation in general. Warner Brothers has created a handful of good features, and their vast library of Looney Tunes are simply hilarious (behind Walt Disney, my favorite "big name" in animation is Chuck Jones).
FOX also has a few good ones here and there. I'm kinda with Luke where DreamWorks is concerned, though - they're just a bit too crass for my liking, and Katzenberg's a real dick for keeping up his on-screen grudge with Disney.
Aardman's great, though - I love Wallace and Gromit and Chicken Run, and I'm looking forward to The Great Vegetable Plot and Flushed Away.
Though he gets a lot of flack from his contemporaries, I like a lot of Don Bluth's films. Can't really think of one I don't like that much - maybe Anastasia. Bluth's habit of using rotoscoping for his human characters gets a little on my nerves, though. You'd think the era of rotoscoping was over...
I'm pretty choosy with animé - since there's soooo much of it, you really gotta watch yourself!
I love Studio Ghibli with a passion - Miyazaki is a true master. I also like some tv series like Wolf's Rain or Cowboy Bebop. Other than that, though, I tend to stay away from either extreme of the spectrum - nothing too kiddie, nor too gratuitous gory and violent. o_@

Disney and PIXAR are by far my favorite "mainstream" animation studios, but I love all "western" animation in general. Warner Brothers has created a handful of good features, and their vast library of Looney Tunes are simply hilarious (behind Walt Disney, my favorite "big name" in animation is Chuck Jones).
FOX also has a few good ones here and there. I'm kinda with Luke where DreamWorks is concerned, though - they're just a bit too crass for my liking, and Katzenberg's a real dick for keeping up his on-screen grudge with Disney.

Though he gets a lot of flack from his contemporaries, I like a lot of Don Bluth's films. Can't really think of one I don't like that much - maybe Anastasia. Bluth's habit of using rotoscoping for his human characters gets a little on my nerves, though. You'd think the era of rotoscoping was over...

I'm pretty choosy with animé - since there's soooo much of it, you really gotta watch yourself!

Oh, I can't believe I forgot Don Bluth! Anastasias and the rest aside, The Secret of NIMH is a good piece of work.
And Luke, if you liked Chicken Run you should definitely check out the Wallace&Gromit films. Pronto! Creature Comforts from the same team is a pretty nice experiment, too. Oscar winning stuff.
And Luke, if you liked Chicken Run you should definitely check out the Wallace&Gromit films. Pronto! Creature Comforts from the same team is a pretty nice experiment, too. Oscar winning stuff.
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To those who haven't seen much anime, there is a great film called Tokyo Godfathers. This is in Japanese with English subtitles only, so if that bothers you, be warned.
This is a remake of John Ford's film The Three Godfathers, and features a trio of homeless people who find a baby on Christmas Eve. There is a drunk who left his family, a teenage girl who ran away, and a drag queen.
The film is rated PG-13, as there is some violence, some derogatory remarks to the drag queen, and a bare breast (in a non-sexual scene.)
On the whole, though, this is a wonderfully heartwarming and touching film.
This is a remake of John Ford's film The Three Godfathers, and features a trio of homeless people who find a baby on Christmas Eve. There is a drunk who left his family, a teenage girl who ran away, and a drag queen.
The film is rated PG-13, as there is some violence, some derogatory remarks to the drag queen, and a bare breast (in a non-sexual scene.)
On the whole, though, this is a wonderfully heartwarming and touching film.
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Mainly, it's Disney for me ... Pixar is okay, but they're secondary. And I don't think much of their films. They're fine, but ... Disney is primary. They have the films I feel fondness for. As for other animation: not a lot. There are sporadic examples here and there, of non-Disney animation that I like. For instance ...
Watership Down. Both the movie (from 1978) and the children's television show (which was a Canada/Britain co-production, as I recall). I'm not sure who made them ... but the show was nice. I have 7 episodes on DVD (divided into little "collections"). I wish they would release the whole series, but they won't. It's not known ... not enough to sell extremely well. So, I like that. The animation of the film is dark, murky ... fitting the tone. The show has a brighter look, but they both have great rural scenery.
The Garfield & Friends animated television show ... I like that. Have the first volume on DVD (though am unsure whether I really need any future volumes). That was on CBS, I know.
And I suppose I'm looking forward to Universal's Curious George. As well as The Tale of Despereaux. Maybe those will turn out. As for others ... I really don't care for anime. At all. And I don't like Nickelodeon's (sp?) offerings, or Cartoon Network's. I just don't. And Don Bluth films are decent, but ... don't do anything for me.
Watership Down. Both the movie (from 1978) and the children's television show (which was a Canada/Britain co-production, as I recall). I'm not sure who made them ... but the show was nice. I have 7 episodes on DVD (divided into little "collections"). I wish they would release the whole series, but they won't. It's not known ... not enough to sell extremely well. So, I like that. The animation of the film is dark, murky ... fitting the tone. The show has a brighter look, but they both have great rural scenery.
The Garfield & Friends animated television show ... I like that. Have the first volume on DVD (though am unsure whether I really need any future volumes). That was on CBS, I know.
And I suppose I'm looking forward to Universal's Curious George. As well as The Tale of Despereaux. Maybe those will turn out. As for others ... I really don't care for anime. At all. And I don't like Nickelodeon's (sp?) offerings, or Cartoon Network's. I just don't. And Don Bluth films are decent, but ... don't do anything for me.
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To me, Disney will always be number one. But I do like others on an individual basis.
The first 3 Don Bluth films: Secret of Nimh, An American Tail & The Land Before Time were all great. After that he just slipped into weird films that made no sense like"Rock a Doodle" or blatent copies of the Disney formula like "Anastasia".
Dreamworks: "Prince of Egypt" was good but they seemed to lose interest in 2-D after that. "Road to Eldorado" "Spirit" & "Sinbad" were all forgettable.
Shrek was funny, but I wonder how good it will be 20 years from now when about 90% of its humor will be outdated. Unfortunatly, it seems that Dreamworks is now going in that same direction with all its animated films which I suspect will not stand the test of time.
Warner Bros.: Looney Tunes are of course the best. However, the only great animated Feature to come out of this studio is the supeb "Iron Giant" (which gets my vote for the best non disney 2-D animated film ever)
Television: I love the Simpsons but find most other Prime time animated shows just trying to copy them and not nearly as interesting. Afternoon cartoons are another matter. Batman, The X-men, Animaniacs and the very cool Peter Pan and the Pirates (which I wish I could get on DVD) are all personal favorites of mine.
Anime: I like the Myazaki (I think I horribly butchered that name) films are great. "Castle in the Sky", "Princess Mononoke" & "Spirited Away" are the best. However my problem with most anime is that most leave a lot to be desired in the animation. some are done no better than Hanna-Barbera cartoons. (I rented one called "Record of Lodoss War", which had a great concept, great artwork and a well plotted story, but the actual animation was so horrible it ruined it. the big climactic battle between the two dragons looked like someone had just moved cardboard cutouts in front of the camera) So for me anime is a mixed bag.
The first 3 Don Bluth films: Secret of Nimh, An American Tail & The Land Before Time were all great. After that he just slipped into weird films that made no sense like"Rock a Doodle" or blatent copies of the Disney formula like "Anastasia".
Dreamworks: "Prince of Egypt" was good but they seemed to lose interest in 2-D after that. "Road to Eldorado" "Spirit" & "Sinbad" were all forgettable.
Shrek was funny, but I wonder how good it will be 20 years from now when about 90% of its humor will be outdated. Unfortunatly, it seems that Dreamworks is now going in that same direction with all its animated films which I suspect will not stand the test of time.
Warner Bros.: Looney Tunes are of course the best. However, the only great animated Feature to come out of this studio is the supeb "Iron Giant" (which gets my vote for the best non disney 2-D animated film ever)
Television: I love the Simpsons but find most other Prime time animated shows just trying to copy them and not nearly as interesting. Afternoon cartoons are another matter. Batman, The X-men, Animaniacs and the very cool Peter Pan and the Pirates (which I wish I could get on DVD) are all personal favorites of mine.
Anime: I like the Myazaki (I think I horribly butchered that name) films are great. "Castle in the Sky", "Princess Mononoke" & "Spirited Away" are the best. However my problem with most anime is that most leave a lot to be desired in the animation. some are done no better than Hanna-Barbera cartoons. (I rented one called "Record of Lodoss War", which had a great concept, great artwork and a well plotted story, but the actual animation was so horrible it ruined it. the big climactic battle between the two dragons looked like someone had just moved cardboard cutouts in front of the camera) So for me anime is a mixed bag.