The Little Mermaid Discussion

[DisneyFan09]

I can’t tell in a search if Mulan has more than one theatrical poster or if the sword in front of her face ones are just home video covers.

Mulan had many posters, but frankly, most of them were underwhelming, in my opinion. It`s a pity how that movie never got a poster with most of the characters, like the rest of the Disney Renaissance Pictures had. Cause those were my favorites, to be honest. My favorite poster is when she`s sitting with her back with her armour.

Pocahontas’ canoe poster and Gold Collection covers are so nice! The one with more characters and Grandmother Willow looking so bad is indeed a bad poster to me!

I like the BatB dancing in shadow poster but yes, the Beast in the clouds on is bad!

Really? Sorry, but I disagree. I happen to like those character-posters more, actually.

[Disney Duster]

Thank you for your opinion and information, DisneyFan09. I DO like the part of the BatB poster where the Beast is looming in the clouds over the castle. That is a cool part.

[DisneyFan09]

Thank you for your opinion and information, DisneyFan09. I DO like the part of the BatB poster where the Beast is looming in the clouds over the castle. That is a cool part.

Whoops! Sorry...

[Thumper_93]

They have been releasing merchandise with the original VHS cover all the time so I don't think that they care much about the towers anymore.

[Disney's Divinity]

But you know, $100 isn't too bad considering it would've been near $50 at the time. I'll get the Sleeping Beauty, TP&TF, Frozen / II, B&tB, and Mulan steelbooks eventually over time.

Some covers I wish they'd do, if they ever to give them new steelbooks down the line:

TLM - The original palace poster
Aladdin - John Alvin poster, but also like the full cast poster
Pocahontas - Canoe poster.
Hercules - John Alvin artwork, but full cast poster if not that one.
Mulan - The red poster of her on Khan.
Tarzan - Tarzan standing on the huge tree trunk from the Sabor scene poster.
TP&tF - The image if bayou dress Tiana looking down at Naveen in the swamp.

Harder to say with the older films because the posters were sort of ugly in ye olden days. I would love if Snow White, Cinderella, Pinocchio, and The Sword in the Stone had steelbooks like SB's that imitate the storybooks at the start. I guess I liked Dalmatians' poster with Cruella looking down at the dogs, that could be okay.

[Disney Duster]

DisneyFan09, why are you apologizing? You didn’t do anything wrong. You said you prefer the Pocahontas and Beauty and the Beast character posters and I was saying I don’t like them except for the cool Beast in the clouds over the castle part.

Divinity, I so agree, the posters in Walt’s time were ugly, except for in my opinion Snow White’s very first one. I also agree the 101 Dalmatians one with Cruella big and looking at down at the dogs is not bad, and I also agree that if the Disney in-film opening storybooks were used for steelbooks just like Sleeping Beauty got, that would be wonderful. Can’t do The Jungle Book and Robin Hood though, they used the same book.

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm going through some villain-related videos by someone on YouTube named ColinLooksBack (that and watching workprints of the climax again, sometimes I watch them). I learned a few things I didn't know, some which might escape me now, although I'll try to remember them all. One was that apparently Pat Carroll wasn't the first choice for Morgana in the sequel any more than she was first choice for Ursula! Apparently they wanted Anne Bancroft initially. Also, that Glut might have once been intended as a sidekick of Ursula's based on some workart. They borrowed that idea for Morgana, imo, with Undertow; there's also a specific storyboard of Ursula from the moment she cackles after finally getting thr trident for herself that you can tell they copied in Morgana's reaction when she first gets it from Melody in the cheap sequel.

Also, watching scenes of the musical's resolution of Ariel smashing the shell made me realize that M&C must have taken the idea for TP&TF's ending from what they'd seen with the musical. I enjoyed TP&TF's ending, too, except I wish Katzenberg to tell them "more Die Hard" again. I feel like the scene would've been stronger if Facilier became bigger / stronger in the moment after the illusion fades away, maybe a "fight" takes place before Tiana and Naveen finally get the necklace back from him. There was also a bit about how they initially thought of having Ursula stay in shadow her first two scenes so that we meet her when Ariel does--really glad they didn't do that.

[DisneyFan09]

DisneyFan09, why are you apologizing? You didn’t do anything wrong. You said you prefer the Pocahontas and Beauty and the Beast character posters and I was saying I don’t like them except for the cool Beast in the clouds over the castle part.

Well, I`m apologizing for misunderstanding your comment. That`s why

[PatchofBlue]

I'd made the connection between the Princess and the Frog and Little Mermaid on Broadway and wondered the same thing.

I'll admit I have a hard time imagining how they'd escalate the stakes in Princess and the Frog with Tiana and Naveen still as frogs, but I also think that storytellers worth their salt can do almost anything, and I would be interested to see more widespread peril in the climax. Maybe Facilier unleashes the voodoo ghosts on New Orleans and Tiana gets to cast them back into the shadow plane or something?

[Kyle]

Its long been a question "why doesn't Ariel simply write things down so Eric can better understand what she needs" and my head-canon answer to that was something along the lines of Ariel probably speaks some other language and couldn't do that. The whole signing her name on the contract thing was just for us the viewer, not necessarily what she sees.

Well in a recent video meant for kids uploaded on Disney's youtube they have this animated story where she explains how she learned her right from her left, and used the old memory trick of your left hand forming the letter L. So, that kinda throws my theory out the window I suppose. lol

[PatchofBlue]

Alas. Foiled again by Disney's YouTube page.

My perspective with most films, particularly animated fairy-tales, is that they're meant to just be taken at face value. You can "what if" and "what about" the scenario as much as you like, but this basically never makes the story any better.

When it comes to the possibility of Ariel novelizing her account to Eric, I really don't think this probing sinks the story nearly so much as the Cinemasins crowd wants to suppose. Like, if some person crashed my backyard and handed me a note saying that they were actually my true love and that they'd explain everything after I kissed them ... I'd probably just call the police. It honestly probably was just simpler for Ariel to start from the ground up.

Trying to out-logic a fairy-tale just usually just creates more plot holes. Just accept that the mermaid needed to impress the prince without her ace, and move on.

[Disney Duster]

Divinity COOL info!

DisneyFan09, oh, it’s ok!

Kyle, I like the other language thing but it would have to be a different alphabet only or Ariel and Eric couldn’t understand each other at all!

PatchofBlue, yes, there is fairy tale logic. But I always like to try and find out aside from magic, they could work out in real life. Anyway, I think I what you said is very smart, Ariel probably thought she could never explain to Eric she was a mermaid, and maybe she was afraid telling him she was the one who saved him but lost her voice would also sound too unbelievable/unverifiable.