Which Black Sheep among the Disney Canon is your favorite?

[DisneyFan09]

I know that this topic may be a little derivative. But I`ve been curious about this topic lately. As we all know, Disney had some Black Sheeps among their lifetimes. And some have been more universally loathed than others. But regarding of these Black Sheep is your favorite and why? And yes, I`ll list these Black Sheeps.

1. Alice in Wonderland (despite how it`s now been somewhat redeemed).
2. Song of the South.
2. The Black Cauldron.
3. Pocahontas.
4. Atlantis The Lost Empire.
5. Brother Bear.
6. Home on the Range.
7. Chicken Little.
8. Wish.

Well, to summarize my opinions, my true favorite among them is Pocahontas. Due to how I was obsessed with it when I saw it and loved it later on. Otherwise, I like Alice in Wonderland, Song of the South, Atlantis The Lost Empire and Home on the Range. The Black Cauldron has grown on me, despite how I didn`t care for it initially. But I happen to care less for Brother Bear and Chicken Little. I`ve would`ve placed Wish higher on the list, if it wasn`t hampered by it`s flaws.

[UmbrellaFish]

Of that list, it’s a very easy choice for me: Pocahontas. An incredibly imperfect movie, but it’s held a special place in my heart since childhood.

[DisneyFan09]

Of that list, it’s a very easy choice for me: Pocahontas. An incredibly imperfect movie, but it’s held a special place in my heart since childhood.

Nice Why do you like it?

[UmbrellaFish]

I rewatched the movie very recently, so this is all fresh in my memory: the music, the animation, the vocal performances especially those of Irene Bedard and Judy Kuhn, the deliciously 90’s color palette, the American setting, and perhaps most of all, Meeko. He’s my number one favorite Disney sidekick, I think.

[DisneyFan09]

I`m glad to see more love for Meeko here! Meeko is one of my favorite sidekicks, too! And most American reviewers have usually panned the sidekicks for Pocahontas.

[Disney Duster]

My favorite is the Black Cauldron, because I LOVE magic, and I LOVE witches, and the Horned King is a great villain I must say. I find the problem with the film to be it feels too stiff. Taran, Eilonwy, and Fleuwder come off as too stiff and failing at attempting humor or fun or personality. But I LIKE them all anyway, and the witches and Horned King are great. Gurgi is the only one I really don't like. The animation is also great to me. The story seems a little...too little? I know many Disney films have simple stories but the slow-ass cauldron born don't pose much of a threat.

My next fave is Alice in Wonderland. That is a masterpiece of animation, character, humor, fun, and Disney magic!

My third fave is Wish. Though I bet I won't watch that one much. I like it cuz I like a magic and fairy godmothers, but they fudged the music and personalities.

[reee9948]

Treasure Planet will always be one of my favorite Disney movies. It was one of those movies that hooked from the start and took me an adventure. All of the characters were great and the movie explored themes and subjects that is not commonly depicted in kids movies. It such a shame that it flopped in box office, but the amount of money a movie makes at the time they've released doesn't indicate the quality of the movie so I try not to let it get to me. However, what really sucked was that the writers planned for a sequel but that was canceled because the original movie flopped. Since the writers actually planned the sequel from the start and seemed rather passionate about Treasure Planet as whole, then I'm pretty sure the sequel's quality would be much higher than the other Disney's sequels like Frozen 2 and Moana 2, etc.

[The Disneynerd]

So i assume you mainly included the movies that mostly bombed critically not commercially, as most of their "flops" rightfully became beloved sleeper hits!

Its so hard to decide tbh. I really love Brother Bear, Pocahontas and Black Cauldron out of these, almost equally. Black Cauldron has the dark gothic aesthetic that feels so unique and awesome for WDAS and an interesting world building, Brother Bear has the most loveable leads and a more personal journey to it and Pocahontas feels epic visually and the Soundtrack is striking.

Hard decision but i gotta go with Pocahontas too. Despite how much they glamourized that tragic historical event, You just cant beat a Renaissance musical.

the amount of money a movie makes at the time they've released doesn't indicate the quality of the movie so I try not to let it get to me. However, what really sucked was that the writers planned for a sequel but that was canceled because the original movie flopped. Since the writers actually planned the sequel from the start and seemed rather passionate about Treasure Planet as whole

Exactly! Its about a movies longetivity that defines true success. I mean Encanto flopped too and later became a giant hit on Disney+ so a sequel would definetly pull 1 Billion$. The Treasure Planet sequel was always gonna be Direct to Video, i think you might have mixed it up with the cancelled Atlantis sequel "Get Milo!". The synopsis sounded awesome

[BloomHunter]

I can think of a few
- MTR
I really enjoy Meet The Robinsons! If not for it's time travel schtick, the film feels quite grounded and similar in emotion to Lilo & Stitch. It's easy to tune into and just have a good time with it's ridiculous optimism.
- ENG
Emperor's New Groove! I can't think of another contender from Disney that has the same amount of humor around every corner of it's running time. I have always enjoyed the zany magical potions aspect of that film, and the heart is in it's right place.
- BB
Brother Bear, like everyone above already stated. I never understood how it was so horribly received in the states.
The film had emotion, colourful expressive storytelling and gorgeous score, what was there not to like.
- TFATH
Fox and Hound has this resemblance to Bambi more than it does to the Xerox features, which makes the experience feel classic yet modern, which helps it stand out in the Dark Age. The simple feel of the countryside, darker misty woods and bond between the leads adds a distinct experience that can be both devastating and beautiful. They do a fantastic job portraying loss, betrayal and innocence while also keeping some silly moments.
- Tarzan
The jungle truly is the antagonist and peace land of this film. The film looks like a gorgeous 3D painting. From it's use of lighting, tremendous work of Mancina's score to the high stakes of peril and wonder. Unlike most Renaissance films it moves with a faster pace, while keeping you engaged. It also offers room for highly impactful scenes, despite it's short running time.

[carolinakid]

Song of the South no question for me.

[Disney's Divinity]

Of your list, Treasure Planet. The only one I don't like from the list though is Chicken Little. Financial success and personal enjoyment is only incidental most of the time. But I'd say TSitS, MtR, and Raya are black sheep, too--well, a lot of the films between successful eras usually are--and I like TSitS and Raya even more than TP.

[PatchofBlue]

I think there are very valid critiques of Pocahontas, but I also feel like those talking points tend to smooth over certain complexities in the conversation, like how this was one of the first major Hollywood films to center on a woman of color at all. And even as I think parts of the story drag a little, there are a lot of things that work really well. There are things that Disney learned from the movie, both sociologically and technologically, that qualify it for good regards.

Treasure Planet and Atlantis both have a little too much story for them to handle in an 85-minute movie, but there are also some spectacular pay-offs that we don't get from other "better" films, so they deserve some consideration. Brother Bear has the same-but-different problem where I think the movie has verifiable issues, but I have fondness for it even in adulthood.

Home on the Range and Chicken Little are rare within the Disney canon as two films that I actively dislike. Someone else will have to advocate for them.

I actually like Alice in Wonderland more as an adult than I did as a kid. It's probably the most episodic of Walt's films, but the set pieces are entertaining enough.

I've only seen Song of the South once, and remember being surprised that it was so controversial, but my views on these things have also shifted quite a bit in the nearly ten years since, so I'd have to hunt down another copy and igve it another glance.