We've done a lot of "ranking the remakes from best/worst" or "rate all the animated films," and other similar topics, and it's a generally accepted truism that the remakes are not as good as their source material, but I thought it might be fun to do blend the two modes: display our ratings of the remakes and the films they are born from next to one another, showing off exactly how deeply these remakes fall next to their animated predecessors (or on the rare occasion, how high they might jump).
We can all find our own individual ways to score according to whatever jives with whatever user, but I'm choosing to go down the list in release order of the remakes, starting from the modern wave from Tim Burton's "Alice in Wonderland" on, displaying the remake's score first, and also displaying the difference between the two scores.
Alice in Wonderland: 3/8 -5
Maleficent (Sleeping Beauty): 4/9 -5
Cinderella: 10/9 +1
The Jungle Book: 6/10 -4
Beauty and the Beast: 4/10 -6
Christopher Robin (The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh): 5/9 -4
Dumbo: 4/7 -3
Aladdin: 9/10 -1
The Lion King: 4/10 -6
Lady and The Tramp: 8/8 0
Mulan: 4/7 -3
Cruella (101 Dalmatians): 9/8 +1
Pinocchio: 2/9 -7
Peter Pan and Wendy (Peter Pan): 5/10 -5
The Little Mermaid: 8/10 -2
On average, that's -3.267 for each remake.
So, yeah. Pinocchio was the largest offender in part to the finished product just being cacophonous, but there are lots of others who come close. LA Mulan and Dumbo have a comparatively smaller dip, but they're almost as bad. Their gap is just smaller owing to the fact that while I respect those animated films, they've never really been among my favorites.
Cinderella and Cruella were the only two that I rank slightly higher than their animated films. But even LA Cinderella's reach has a lot to do with the context in which it came out as this rare fairy-tale that isn't ashamed to be a fairy-tale. That's probably never been easy at any point in history, including the post WWII landscape in which animated Cinderella was made, but in this post-Shrek purgatory, that somehow feels like more of an achievement.
Aladdin and The Little Mermaid had relatively small dips, which was sort of inevitable seeing how they are based on some of Disney's best work. But I still appreciate what these projects bring to their animated source material, such that--I'll say again--I don't think these remakes were a total non-starter: I could have happily lived in a universe where all or most of the remakes fell into this class. There were never really going to be remakes with significant gains over their animated movies. Disney's rare bad movies were never going to be the ones that got greenlit for a remake (most of these have come out in like the last twenty years beside the point). Even if we were going to get a remake of The Fox & the Hound (kind of a mid-tier Disney film for me), I somehow don't think it was ever going to be a ten-star film in my book. An average score of like -1.5ish would have been fine. I don't expect perfection, but I do ask for honest effort ... which has apparently been too big an ask.
Anyways, I'd be curious to see everyone else's ratings.
Rate the LA Remakes Alongside their Animated Films
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Re: Rate the LA Remakes Alongside their Animated Films
I tried not to think about the films too long, just give the first number that I settled on.
Alice in Wonderland (1951) - 6
Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton) - 4
Sleeping Beauty (1959) - 7
Maleficent - 5
Cinderella (1950) - 8
Cinderella (2015) - 4
The Jungle Book (1967) - 8
The Jungle Book (2016) - 8
Beauty and the Beast (1991) - 10
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 7
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - 9
Christopher Robin - 2
Dumbo (1941) - 8
Dumbo (Tim Burton) - 3
Aladdin (1992) - 9
Aladdin (2019) - 8
The Lion King (1994) - 8
The Lion King (2019) - 6
Lady and the Tramp (1955) - 7
Lady and the Tramp (remake) - 2
Mulan (1998) - 8
Mulan (2021) - 2
One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961) - 10
Cruella - 6
Pinocchio (1940) - 10
Pinocchio (2022) - 6
Peter Pan (1953) - 6
Peter Pan and Wendy - 4
The Little Mermaid (1989) - 10
The Little Mermaid (2023) - 7
Mary Poppins - 8
Mary Poppins Returns - 5
The Wizard of Oz (not Disney, but I'm including it) - 8
Oz the Great and Powerful - 3
And I haven't seen the original Pete's Dragon in so long, it would be unfair to compare it with the remake. I did like the remake a little better based on my limited memory of the original. Never watched The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
So all together with highest rankings to lowest rankings:
Beauty and the Beast (1991) - 10
Pinocchio (1940) - 10
The Little Mermaid (1989) - 10
One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961) - 10
Aladdin (1992) - 9
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - 9
Mulan (1998) - 8
Cinderella (1950) - 8
The Lion King (1994) - 8
Aladdin (2019) - 8
Dumbo (1941) - 8
The Jungle Book (1967) - 8
The Jungle Book (2016) - 8
Mary Poppins - 8
The Wizard of Oz - 8
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 7
Lady and the Tramp (1955) - 7
The Little Mermaid (2023) - 7
Sleeping Beauty (1959) - 7
The Lion King (2019) - 6
Alice in Wonderland (1951) - 6
Pinocchio (2022) - 6
Cruella - 6
Peter Pan (1953) - 6
Maleficent - 5
Mary Poppins Returns - 5
Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton) - 4
Cinderella (2015) - 4
Peter Pan and Wendy - 4
Dumbo (Tim Burton) - 3
Oz the Great and Powerful - 3
Christopher Robin - 2
Lady and the Tramp (remake) - 2
Mulan (2021) - 2
Some of the films I would rank a little higher based on personal preference. For example, on the DAC rankdown, I'd put Cinderella, TLK, and Mulan all above Aladdin even though I think Aladdin is slightly better as a film, but I have a somewhat stronger attachment to those than Aladdin which gives them an edge. But since we're using more of a strict score type system here...
Alice in Wonderland (1951) - 6
Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton) - 4
Sleeping Beauty (1959) - 7
Maleficent - 5
Cinderella (1950) - 8
Cinderella (2015) - 4
The Jungle Book (1967) - 8
The Jungle Book (2016) - 8
Beauty and the Beast (1991) - 10
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 7
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - 9
Christopher Robin - 2
Dumbo (1941) - 8
Dumbo (Tim Burton) - 3
Aladdin (1992) - 9
Aladdin (2019) - 8
The Lion King (1994) - 8
The Lion King (2019) - 6
Lady and the Tramp (1955) - 7
Lady and the Tramp (remake) - 2
Mulan (1998) - 8
Mulan (2021) - 2
One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961) - 10
Cruella - 6
Pinocchio (1940) - 10
Pinocchio (2022) - 6
Peter Pan (1953) - 6
Peter Pan and Wendy - 4
The Little Mermaid (1989) - 10
The Little Mermaid (2023) - 7
Mary Poppins - 8
Mary Poppins Returns - 5
The Wizard of Oz (not Disney, but I'm including it) - 8
Oz the Great and Powerful - 3
And I haven't seen the original Pete's Dragon in so long, it would be unfair to compare it with the remake. I did like the remake a little better based on my limited memory of the original. Never watched The Sorcerer's Apprentice.
So all together with highest rankings to lowest rankings:
Beauty and the Beast (1991) - 10
Pinocchio (1940) - 10
The Little Mermaid (1989) - 10
One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961) - 10
Aladdin (1992) - 9
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - 9
Mulan (1998) - 8
Cinderella (1950) - 8
The Lion King (1994) - 8
Aladdin (2019) - 8
Dumbo (1941) - 8
The Jungle Book (1967) - 8
The Jungle Book (2016) - 8
Mary Poppins - 8
The Wizard of Oz - 8
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 7
Lady and the Tramp (1955) - 7
The Little Mermaid (2023) - 7
Sleeping Beauty (1959) - 7
The Lion King (2019) - 6
Alice in Wonderland (1951) - 6
Pinocchio (2022) - 6
Cruella - 6
Peter Pan (1953) - 6
Maleficent - 5
Mary Poppins Returns - 5
Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton) - 4
Cinderella (2015) - 4
Peter Pan and Wendy - 4
Dumbo (Tim Burton) - 3
Oz the Great and Powerful - 3
Christopher Robin - 2
Lady and the Tramp (remake) - 2
Mulan (2021) - 2
Some of the films I would rank a little higher based on personal preference. For example, on the DAC rankdown, I'd put Cinderella, TLK, and Mulan all above Aladdin even though I think Aladdin is slightly better as a film, but I have a somewhat stronger attachment to those than Aladdin which gives them an edge. But since we're using more of a strict score type system here...
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Re: Rate the LA Remakes Alongside their Animated Films
I will start with the remakes, I will rate the ones I saw so far.
1. Alice in Wonderland - 6
2. Maleficent - 7
3. Cinderella - 10
4. The Jungle Book - 10
5. Pete's Dragon - 8
6. Beauty and the Beast - 9
7. Mary Poppins Returns - 8
8. Dumbo - 7
9. Aladdin - 10
10. The Lion King - 8
11. Mulan - 5
12. Cruella - 7
13. Pinocchio - 2
14. Peter Pan & Wendy - 1
15. The Little Mermaid - 8
16. The Haunted Mansion - 7
And now, the animated films.
1. Alice in Wonderland - 9
2. Sleeping Beauty - 10
3. Cinderella - 10
4. The Jungle Book - 9
5. Pete's Dragon - 8
6. Beauty and the Beast - 10
7. Mary Poppins - 10
8. Aladdin - 9
9. The Lion King - 10
10. Mulan - 9
11. 101 Dalmatians - 9
12. Pinocchio - 10
13. Peter Pan - 9
14. The Little Mermaid - 10
15. The Haunted Mansion - 7
1. Alice in Wonderland - 6
2. Maleficent - 7
3. Cinderella - 10
4. The Jungle Book - 10
5. Pete's Dragon - 8
6. Beauty and the Beast - 9
7. Mary Poppins Returns - 8
8. Dumbo - 7
9. Aladdin - 10
10. The Lion King - 8
11. Mulan - 5
12. Cruella - 7
13. Pinocchio - 2
14. Peter Pan & Wendy - 1
15. The Little Mermaid - 8
16. The Haunted Mansion - 7
And now, the animated films.
1. Alice in Wonderland - 9
2. Sleeping Beauty - 10
3. Cinderella - 10
4. The Jungle Book - 9
5. Pete's Dragon - 8
6. Beauty and the Beast - 10
7. Mary Poppins - 10
8. Aladdin - 9
9. The Lion King - 10
10. Mulan - 9
11. 101 Dalmatians - 9
12. Pinocchio - 10
13. Peter Pan - 9
14. The Little Mermaid - 10
15. The Haunted Mansion - 7
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Re: Rate the LA Remakes Alongside their Animated Films
I don't consider the Oz and Mary Poppins movies to be remakes or reimaginings so I'd exclude those. Same with Christopher Robin. One can argue that Alice in Wonderland is in the same boat, but CR retains the aesthetics and visual cues of the animated Winnie the Pooh media, while AiW is a total Tim Burton fest and more of a movie sequel to the novel(s).
- Alice in Wonderland (1951 - 9; 2010 - 3) -6
- Sleeping Beauty / Maleficent (1959 - 10; 2014 - 3) -7
- Cinderella (1950 - 10; 2015 - 6) -4
- The Jungle Book (1967 - 7; 2016 - 8 ) +1
- Pete's Dragon (1977 - 6; 2016 - 7) +1
- Beauty and the Beast (1991 - 10; 2017 - 4) -6
- Dumbo (1941 - 7, 2019 - 5) -2
- Aladdin (1992 - 10; 2019 - 7) -3
- The Lion King (1994 - 10; 2019 - 4) -6
- Lady and the Tramp (1955 - 9; 2019 - 4) -5
- Mulan (1998 - 10; 2020 - 5) -5
- 101 Dalmatians / Cruella (1961 - 10; 2021 - 6) -4
- Pinocchio (1940 - 8; 2022 - 3) -5
- Peter Pan / Peter Pan and Wendy (1953 - 9; 2023 - 4) -5
- The Little Mermaid (1989 - 10; 2023 - 7) -3
No ties for me, and I find the remakes to be generally inferior to the originals, except in two cases, both coincidentally from 2016.
- Alice in Wonderland (1951 - 9; 2010 - 3) -6
- Sleeping Beauty / Maleficent (1959 - 10; 2014 - 3) -7
- Cinderella (1950 - 10; 2015 - 6) -4
- The Jungle Book (1967 - 7; 2016 - 8 ) +1
- Pete's Dragon (1977 - 6; 2016 - 7) +1
- Beauty and the Beast (1991 - 10; 2017 - 4) -6
- Dumbo (1941 - 7, 2019 - 5) -2
- Aladdin (1992 - 10; 2019 - 7) -3
- The Lion King (1994 - 10; 2019 - 4) -6
- Lady and the Tramp (1955 - 9; 2019 - 4) -5
- Mulan (1998 - 10; 2020 - 5) -5
- 101 Dalmatians / Cruella (1961 - 10; 2021 - 6) -4
- Pinocchio (1940 - 8; 2022 - 3) -5
- Peter Pan / Peter Pan and Wendy (1953 - 9; 2023 - 4) -5
- The Little Mermaid (1989 - 10; 2023 - 7) -3
No ties for me, and I find the remakes to be generally inferior to the originals, except in two cases, both coincidentally from 2016.
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Maybe this can go here: Rotten Tomatoes’ freshness scores for Disney’s animated classics and their live-action remakes:
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Oh, interesting. Unfortunately, the scores are more complicated than that ever since they started putting their thumb on the scale with verified this, that, or whatever they call it. You'd need to show all the various types of scores per film to be fair, and that's just the audience score. Then you look at the critics' score separately to see how often they're wildly out-of-step with what audiences think.
EDIT: Oh, I realize those are the critics scores when I glanced again. I remember that Aladdin's audience score was around 90%... So that picture's sort of worthless as far as reflecting the full story, imo. I'll go resurrect my own list and update it, since I know that's not as deceptive as these kind of skewed meme type images usually are.
Edit x2: Here it is. I'll be updating it, I'll put a note at the bottom when I've finished:
Alice in Wonderland 2010
Critics: 51% (278 reviews--went down to 275 reviews)
Top Critics: 53% (66 reviews)
All Audience: 55% (480,200 user ratings--changed to "250,000+")
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013
Critics: 56% (273 reviews-- went down to 270 reviews for some reason)
Top Critics: 43% (61 reviews)
All Audience: 56% (292,900 user ratings--changed to "250,000+")
Cinderella 2015
Critics: 84% (257 reviews--down to 256)
Top Critics: 82% (68 reviews)
All Audience: 78% (77,700 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
Maleficent 2014
Critics: 54% (278 reviews--down to 273)
Top Critics: 48% (66 reviews)
All Audience: 70% (176,300 user ratings--changed to "100,000+")
Alice Through the Looking Glass 2016
Critics: 29% (262 reviews--down to 260)
Top Critics: 20% (61 reviews)
All Audience: 48% (37,800 user ratings--changed to "25,000+")
The Jungle Book 2016
Critics: 94% (330 reviews--down to 328)
Top Critics: 93% (72 reviews)
All Audience: 86% (94,600 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
Pete's Dragon 2016
Critics: 88% (247 reviews--down to 244)
Top Critics: 86% (65 reviews)
All Audience: 72% (37,100 user ratings--changed to "25,000+")
Beauty and the Beast 2017
Critics: 71% (383 reviews--down to 380)
Top Critics: 63% (76 reviews)
All Audience: 80% (86,300 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
Mary Poppins Returns 2018
Critics: 79% (381 reviews--down to 377)
Top Critics: 74% (72 reviews)
All Audience: 65% (5,000+ user ratings)
Christopher Robin 2018
Critics: 73% (277 reviews--down to 273)
Top Critics: 67% (70 reviews)
All Audience: 83% (5,700 user ratings--changed to "5,000+")
Aladdin 2019
Critics: 57% (386 reviews--up to 387)
Top Critics: 41% (75 reviews)
Verified Audience: 94% (50,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 89% (50,000+ user ratings)
Lady and the Tramp 2019
Critics: 66% (70 reviews--up to 71)
Top Critics: 53% (19 reviews)
All Audience: 50% (650 user ratings--now "500+")
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019
Critics: 40% (259 reviews--the # of reviews dudn't change, but the % went up a point...)
Top Critics: 34% (59 reviews)
Verified Audience: 95% (19,100 user ratings--changed to "10,000+")
All Audience: 89% (250,000+ user ratings)
The Lion King 2019
Critics: 52% (435 reviews--down to 434)
Top Critics: 35% (82 reviews)
Verified Audience: 88% (76,300 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
All Audience: 82% (50,000+ user ratings)
Dumbo 2019
Critics: 46% (370 reviews--372 reviews)
Top Critics: 46% (74 reviews)
All Audience: 47% (4,400 user ratings--changed it to "2,500+")
Mulan 2020
Critics: 72% (323 reviews--up to 327)
Top Critics: 65% (63 reviews)
All Audience: 46% (10,000+ user ratings)
Cruella 2021
Critics: 75% (409 reviews--up to 415)
Top Critics: 64% (74 reviews)
Verified Audience: 97% (5,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 91% (10,000+ user ratings)
Pinocchio 2022
Critics: 26% (175 reviews--ip to 179)
Top Critics: 15% (27 reviews)
All Audience: 27% (2,500+ user ratings)
Peter Pan & Wendy 2023
Critics: 65% (132 reviews--up to 147)
Top Critics: 57% (23 reviews)
All Audience: 11% (5,000+ user ratings)
The Little Mermaid 2023
Critics: 67% (234 reviews--up to 347 reviews)
Top Critics: 49% (68 reviews)
Verified Audience: 93% (1,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 57% (50,000+ user ratings
Mufasa: The Lion King 2024
Critics: 56% (217 reviews)
Top Critics: 62% (50 reviews)
Verified Audience: 89% (5,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 81% (10,000+ user ratings)
Snow White 2025
Critics: 39% (257 reviews)
Top Critics: 28% (57 reviews)
Verified Audience: 71% (2,500+ user ratings)
All Audience: 19% (25,000+ user ratings)
Lilo & Stitch 2025
Critics: 71% (97 reviews)
Audience:
All Audience Ratings Ranked:
Cruella 2021 91%
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019 89%
Aladdin 2019 89%
The Jungle Book 2016 86%
Christopher Robin 2018 83%
The Lion King 2019 82%
Mufasa: The Lion King 2024 81%
Beauty and the Beast 2017 80%
Cinderella 2015 78%
Pete's Dragon 2016 72%
Maleficent 2014 70%
Mary Poppins Returns 2018 65%
The Little Mermaid 2023 57%
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013 56%
Alice in Wonderland 2010 55%
Lady and the Tramp 2019 50%
Alice Through the Looking Glass 2016 48%
Dumbo 2019 47%
Mulan 2020 46%
Pinocchio 2022 27%
Snow White 2025 19%
Peter Pan & Wendy 2023 11%
Critics Ratings Ranked:
The Jungle Book 2016 94%
Pete's Dragon 2016 88%
Cinderella 2015 84%
Mary Poppins Returns 2018 79%
Cruella 2021 75%
Christopher Robin 2018 73%
Mulan 2020 72%
Beauty and the Beast 2017 71%
The Little Mermaid 2023 67%
Lady and the Tramp 2019 66%
Peter Pan & Wendy 2023 65%
Aladdin 2019 57%
Mufasa: The Lion King 2024 56%
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013 56%
Maleficent 2014 2014 54%
The Lion King 2019 52%
Alice in Wonderland 2010 51%
Dumbo 2019 46%
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019 40%
Snow White 2025 39%
Alice Through the Looking Glass 2016 29%
Pinocchio 2022 27%
Finally done.
. Many of the earlier remakes didn't have a "verified" audience number, only an "all audience" number
EDIT: Oh, I realize those are the critics scores when I glanced again. I remember that Aladdin's audience score was around 90%... So that picture's sort of worthless as far as reflecting the full story, imo. I'll go resurrect my own list and update it, since I know that's not as deceptive as these kind of skewed meme type images usually are.
Edit x2: Here it is. I'll be updating it, I'll put a note at the bottom when I've finished:
Alice in Wonderland 2010
Critics: 51% (278 reviews--went down to 275 reviews)
Top Critics: 53% (66 reviews)
All Audience: 55% (480,200 user ratings--changed to "250,000+")
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013
Critics: 56% (273 reviews-- went down to 270 reviews for some reason)
Top Critics: 43% (61 reviews)
All Audience: 56% (292,900 user ratings--changed to "250,000+")
Cinderella 2015
Critics: 84% (257 reviews--down to 256)
Top Critics: 82% (68 reviews)
All Audience: 78% (77,700 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
Maleficent 2014
Critics: 54% (278 reviews--down to 273)
Top Critics: 48% (66 reviews)
All Audience: 70% (176,300 user ratings--changed to "100,000+")
Alice Through the Looking Glass 2016
Critics: 29% (262 reviews--down to 260)
Top Critics: 20% (61 reviews)
All Audience: 48% (37,800 user ratings--changed to "25,000+")
The Jungle Book 2016
Critics: 94% (330 reviews--down to 328)
Top Critics: 93% (72 reviews)
All Audience: 86% (94,600 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
Pete's Dragon 2016
Critics: 88% (247 reviews--down to 244)
Top Critics: 86% (65 reviews)
All Audience: 72% (37,100 user ratings--changed to "25,000+")
Beauty and the Beast 2017
Critics: 71% (383 reviews--down to 380)
Top Critics: 63% (76 reviews)
All Audience: 80% (86,300 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
Mary Poppins Returns 2018
Critics: 79% (381 reviews--down to 377)
Top Critics: 74% (72 reviews)
All Audience: 65% (5,000+ user ratings)
Christopher Robin 2018
Critics: 73% (277 reviews--down to 273)
Top Critics: 67% (70 reviews)
All Audience: 83% (5,700 user ratings--changed to "5,000+")
Aladdin 2019
Critics: 57% (386 reviews--up to 387)
Top Critics: 41% (75 reviews)
Verified Audience: 94% (50,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 89% (50,000+ user ratings)
Lady and the Tramp 2019
Critics: 66% (70 reviews--up to 71)
Top Critics: 53% (19 reviews)
All Audience: 50% (650 user ratings--now "500+")
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019
Critics: 40% (259 reviews--the # of reviews dudn't change, but the % went up a point...)
Top Critics: 34% (59 reviews)
Verified Audience: 95% (19,100 user ratings--changed to "10,000+")
All Audience: 89% (250,000+ user ratings)
The Lion King 2019
Critics: 52% (435 reviews--down to 434)
Top Critics: 35% (82 reviews)
Verified Audience: 88% (76,300 user ratings--changed to "50,000+")
All Audience: 82% (50,000+ user ratings)
Dumbo 2019
Critics: 46% (370 reviews--372 reviews)
Top Critics: 46% (74 reviews)
All Audience: 47% (4,400 user ratings--changed it to "2,500+")
Mulan 2020
Critics: 72% (323 reviews--up to 327)
Top Critics: 65% (63 reviews)
All Audience: 46% (10,000+ user ratings)
Cruella 2021
Critics: 75% (409 reviews--up to 415)
Top Critics: 64% (74 reviews)
Verified Audience: 97% (5,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 91% (10,000+ user ratings)
Pinocchio 2022
Critics: 26% (175 reviews--ip to 179)
Top Critics: 15% (27 reviews)
All Audience: 27% (2,500+ user ratings)
Peter Pan & Wendy 2023
Critics: 65% (132 reviews--up to 147)
Top Critics: 57% (23 reviews)
All Audience: 11% (5,000+ user ratings)
The Little Mermaid 2023
Critics: 67% (234 reviews--up to 347 reviews)
Top Critics: 49% (68 reviews)
Verified Audience: 93% (1,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 57% (50,000+ user ratings
Mufasa: The Lion King 2024
Critics: 56% (217 reviews)
Top Critics: 62% (50 reviews)
Verified Audience: 89% (5,000+ user ratings)
All Audience: 81% (10,000+ user ratings)
Snow White 2025
Critics: 39% (257 reviews)
Top Critics: 28% (57 reviews)
Verified Audience: 71% (2,500+ user ratings)
All Audience: 19% (25,000+ user ratings)
Lilo & Stitch 2025
Critics: 71% (97 reviews)
Audience:
All Audience Ratings Ranked:
Cruella 2021 91%
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019 89%
Aladdin 2019 89%
The Jungle Book 2016 86%
Christopher Robin 2018 83%
The Lion King 2019 82%
Mufasa: The Lion King 2024 81%
Beauty and the Beast 2017 80%
Cinderella 2015 78%
Pete's Dragon 2016 72%
Maleficent 2014 70%
Mary Poppins Returns 2018 65%
The Little Mermaid 2023 57%
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013 56%
Alice in Wonderland 2010 55%
Lady and the Tramp 2019 50%
Alice Through the Looking Glass 2016 48%
Dumbo 2019 47%
Mulan 2020 46%
Pinocchio 2022 27%
Snow White 2025 19%
Peter Pan & Wendy 2023 11%
Critics Ratings Ranked:
The Jungle Book 2016 94%
Pete's Dragon 2016 88%
Cinderella 2015 84%
Mary Poppins Returns 2018 79%
Cruella 2021 75%
Christopher Robin 2018 73%
Mulan 2020 72%
Beauty and the Beast 2017 71%
The Little Mermaid 2023 67%
Lady and the Tramp 2019 66%
Peter Pan & Wendy 2023 65%
Aladdin 2019 57%
Mufasa: The Lion King 2024 56%
Oz the Great and Powerful 2013 56%
Maleficent 2014 2014 54%
The Lion King 2019 52%
Alice in Wonderland 2010 51%
Dumbo 2019 46%
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 2019 40%
Snow White 2025 39%
Alice Through the Looking Glass 2016 29%
Pinocchio 2022 27%
Finally done.
. Many of the earlier remakes didn't have a "verified" audience number, only an "all audience" number
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I will never understand how Peter Pan & Wendy got a higher score than Aladdin. I know that everyone has different tastes, but I simply can't understand that.
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Unfortunately, for something so widely used and advertised, RT system is inherently flawed and is not a good representation of quality. For example, Aladdin's 57% score is not a weighted average score nor it indicates a 3/5 or 6/10 grade (which would still be a good grade), it's just the percentage of certified critics who gave the movie a positive review.
Here's where the issue is: apart from being subjective, reviews are often difficult to quantify (due to being word pieces and not mathematical formulas) and some don't even include the critic's rating. It's RT staff who decides how to "translate" those reviews into "fresh" or "rotten". Also, for reviews where critics have rated the movie to be average/mediocre (2.5/5 or 5/10), sometimes they count them toward "fresh" and sometimes toward "rotten". It's all very subjective. And of course, bigger (theatrical) movies with more reviews will get a bigger pool of reviews to choose from/include in the calculation of RT rating. So for Peter Pan and Wendy, a streaming movie with relatively limited reach, it was enough for it to have had more critics who merely liked it compared to critics who outright disliked it.
Here's where the issue is: apart from being subjective, reviews are often difficult to quantify (due to being word pieces and not mathematical formulas) and some don't even include the critic's rating. It's RT staff who decides how to "translate" those reviews into "fresh" or "rotten". Also, for reviews where critics have rated the movie to be average/mediocre (2.5/5 or 5/10), sometimes they count them toward "fresh" and sometimes toward "rotten". It's all very subjective. And of course, bigger (theatrical) movies with more reviews will get a bigger pool of reviews to choose from/include in the calculation of RT rating. So for Peter Pan and Wendy, a streaming movie with relatively limited reach, it was enough for it to have had more critics who merely liked it compared to critics who outright disliked it.
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Yeah, RT has a lot of issues. I suppose we should be grateful that we have some kind of aggregate for convenience, but I never let them be the final word with these things. I absolutely have ten-star movies with "rotten" scores.
Anyways, nice finds and compilations, folks!
Anyways, nice finds and compilations, folks!
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I think RT is only useful to breakdown the different ranking sources more than anything. The critics' ratings of Aladdin, Peter Pan & Wendy, The Lion King, and Mulan are all wildly out-of-step with how the audiences (who make a film a success or failure) feel. Aladdin and TLK in particular seemed to receive the critics' ire over the existence of remakes at all. I don't think they'd really been that aware of them until B&tB's remake came, and Aladdin/TLK received the brunt of their anger even though those two are among the most popular with audiences because they were fairly faithful remakes. Then the critics tried to prop up Mulan and PP&W which changed everything about the films they were supposedly remakes of while the audience absolutely dropkicked both films.
It's a lesson I think Disney has learned more after TLM underperformed by 300-400 million, that the audience doesn't like severe changes. They tried to get out from under it with SW, but there really wasn't any changing course with that movie after the initial brouhaha over the racebends and the Dwarfs (nevermind that Zegler ended up looking mostly like SW and they ultimately kept the Dwarfs after the outrage), the damage was already done. I don't know how L&S will turn out in the end, but the trailers and casting at least gave the impression to audiences that it would be very faithful. They lifted whole dialogue sequences and marketing images from the original with it.
It's a lesson I think Disney has learned more after TLM underperformed by 300-400 million, that the audience doesn't like severe changes. They tried to get out from under it with SW, but there really wasn't any changing course with that movie after the initial brouhaha over the racebends and the Dwarfs (nevermind that Zegler ended up looking mostly like SW and they ultimately kept the Dwarfs after the outrage), the damage was already done. I don't know how L&S will turn out in the end, but the trailers and casting at least gave the impression to audiences that it would be very faithful. They lifted whole dialogue sequences and marketing images from the original with it.
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Cinderella (1950) 10, Cinderella (2015), 10.
Anyway, I was wondering if people know if Metacritic is better than Rotten Tomatoes, and good enough? I heard the best place is MRQE, or the Movie Review Query Engine. Does anyone here know?
Anyway, I was wondering if people know if Metacritic is better than Rotten Tomatoes, and good enough? I heard the best place is MRQE, or the Movie Review Query Engine. Does anyone here know?
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Since I saw L&S, I should rank it, too. I'd give the original an 8 and the remake a 7.
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Oh, yes. I will add both Snow White and Lilo & Stitch to my list too. Snow White the animation is a 10/10, and the remake is a 4/10, and Lilo & Stitch the animation would be a 9/10 and the remake a 8/10.
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