End of woke Disney?

[Lavendergolden]

This week we had the presidential inauguration with Donald Trump back in power. He promised an end to DEI and wokeness and delivered with his executive orders. He is restoring normalcy to an America which went out of control with its obsession on race, gender, and sexuality. In all historical time periods, whenever things get too crazy there is always conservative backlash and a return to normalcy. America proves this with the hedonistic 1920s (another reason why this era is offensive to be included in family friendly films) which were instantly curbed by the Great Depression and lead to the conservative and family-friendly 1950s. 60s had the sexual revolution and civil rights and 70s increased on all this but the 80s were a return to conservative Reagan/Thatcher economics. Now the 2010s and early 2020s were woke-obsessed with turning everyone black, gay, and female, while ousting white men and telling young white males they are the enemy and have no value anymore. Trump handily won the presidential election and was the first Republican in years to win the popular vote. He had a coalition of all free-minded people, not just whites but also blacks, browns, Asians, men, women, etc.

The reason I bring this up is that I think this will be reflected in Disney as well. We are seeing the Tangled casting rumors and so far, every actor being considered is white and straight and accurately depicts their character. With Mermaid, we saw that Disney only considered black females. They had an agenda to make her a black woman and only looked at black actors but now Disney is not looking at non-white actors for Rapunzel. Or Flynn or Gothel. I don't know if President Trump told Disney that he is back in power now and enough is enough, the people have had enough of this, or if Disney saw the writing on the wall with how their agendas have flopped over and over. They kept pushing the black agenda and gay agenda but Wish, Strange World, Mermaid remake, etc. have all failed and Disney seems reluctant to continue in this direction if the Tangled live-action is any indicator. They want good family friendly values and normalcy again, which is my reading, with only Snow White being the last of the old woke Disney which will not work in Trump's America.

Already international peoples are cheering because they have had enough of America's wokeness sickness permeating their cultures and trying to oppress everyone. I think Tangled's live-action will be the key to restoring Disney's reputation and proving that Disney is still Walt's company, family friendly for all ages and demographics. Can Disney win back its former fans? I think they will need to earn our trust the way Walt did it the first time.

A few years ago this classically authentic casting would have been unthinkable. You just know one of them would have
been black. Which is why Disney hemorrhaging money as global audiences rejected this agenda is our saving grace and global audiences should be thanked because their work is what's given us this classically inspired casting.

[reee9948]

While I will always wish for Disney to make movies based on diverse culture and time periods, I do agree their version of inclusiveness has gone out of hand. Like with them race swapping European characters and then calling fans racist for not being happy with it. 90's renaissance prove that audience don't mind diversity but not at the cost of bringing another group of people down.

If Disney wanted to be diverse so badly, they could've made a new story based in a non European setting and possibly incorporating local fairy tales and mythology since that's what they're best at. But Disney just see this diviersy movement as another opportunity to make money so they're not really authentic with their story. I know Disney have always been money motivated, but at least they have hired creative who are genuine and passionate about what they love and they don't just want to spread their political agenda. This is why hiring someone solely base on their gender, sexuality, and race is a recipe for disaster.

[The Disneynerd]

I gotta agree with this. Normally i wouldnt complain about putting minorities in specific roles as long as they earned that role with their Performance or it doesnt take away from the film (Halle is fantastic as Ariel), but after finding out they were typecasting guess it wasnt just because of her talent... Same with Snow White were they were typecasting african americans or latinas when the role specifically asks for Someone whos "White". If they really had to throw that inclusive card, they could have gotten a Latina who is also White, like Anya Taylor Joy would have been a great fit!

We are seeing the Tangled casting rumors and so far, every actor being considered is white and straight and accurately depicts their character.

Mm i dont see a problem with that tho? Something like that wouldnt be distracting from the film experience itself. We can still have queer actors playing straight roles and vice versa. Noone trashes on straight actors for playing gay roles too. Thats why its called acting i think

While I will always wish for Disney to make movies based on diverse culture and time periods, I do agree their version of inclusiveness has gone out of hand. Like with them race swapping European characters and then calling fans racist for not being happy with it. 90's renaissance prove that audience don't mind diversity but not at the cost of bringing another group of people down.

If Disney wanted to be diverse so badly, they could've made a new story based in a non European setting and possibly incorporating local fairy tales and mythology since that's what they're best at. But Disney just see this diviersy movement as another opportunity to make money so they're not really authentic with their story. I know Disney have always been money motivated, but at least they have hired creative who are genuine and passionate about what they love and they don't just want to spread their political agenda. This is why hiring someone solely base on their gender, sexuality, and race is a recipe for disaster.

Perfectly said, gurl! So on point!

[Lavendergolden]

While I will always wish for Disney to make movies based on diverse culture and time periods, I do agree their version of inclusiveness has gone out of hand. Like with them race swapping European characters and then calling fans racist for not being happy with it. 90's renaissance prove that audience don't mind diversity but not at the cost of bringing another group of people down.

If Disney wanted to be diverse so badly, they could've made a new story based in a non European setting and possibly incorporating local fairy tales and mythology since that's what they're best at. But Disney just see this diviersy movement as another opportunity to make money so they're not really authentic with their story. I know Disney have always been money motivated, but at least they have hired creative who are genuine and passionate about what they love and they don't just want to spread their political agenda. This is why hiring someone solely base on their gender, sexuality, and race is a recipe for disaster.

1000% everything I believe myself. We Disney fans (the real ones, not these fake woke ones only interested in pushing agendas) loved the 90s movies for their representation of other cultures and countries. They were authentic and even in the PC age (what I hear people say was what the 90s was known for), did not receive much or any backlash. Audiences generally enjoyed these movies and accepted the morals of tolerance and environmentalism and feminism. Remember how Alan Menken said Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, and Pocahontas were feminist and empowered already in the 90s and did not need to be updated for the remakes.

Disney seems to only be hiring Tumblr and Deviantart artists now. People whose whole identities are based on their sexualities, races, and genders, and entirely on labels. They cannot function in a labelless society and keep feeling everything they represent has to be pushed as an agenda. Hence movies like Wish.

I gotta agree with this. Normally i wouldnt complain about putting minorities in specific roles as long as they earned that role with their Performance or it doesnt take away from the film (Halle is fantastic as Ariel), but after finding out they were typecasting guess it wasnt just because of her talent... Same with Snow White were they were typecasting african americans or latinas when the role specifically asks for Someone whos "White". If they really had to throw that inclusive card, they could have gotten a Latina who is also White, like Anya Taylor Joy would have been a great fit!

We are seeing the Tangled casting rumors and so far, every actor being considered is white and straight and accurately depicts their character.

Mm i dont see a problem with that tho? Something like that wouldnt be distracting from the film experience itself. We can still have queer actors playing straight roles and vice versa. Noone trashes on straight actors for playing gay roles too. Thats why its called acting i think

This is what gets me too. Disney claims Halle was the best person for the part (she wasn't, she was horribly wooden and lacks the looks of a princess but that's been the case for 99% of these remake actors, the worst being Elle Fanning). Okay but then we were told Disney only looked at black actresses for the part. So that means Disney lied and Halle is not the best person for the part. She's only the best black person for the part and even that's not true. Because we know Disney wanted Zendaya but she said no so that means Halle wasn't even first choice or the best black person for the part. The amount of gaslighting here is unreal. Especially when blind Disney shills keep defending Halle by saying she was the best person for the part because Disney pulled this propaganda stunt on everyone. Didn't one of the actors for Eric admit that he was rejected because he wasn't white so Disney clearly had a weird agenda to push for black women and white men. Which is actually the least common form of interracial relationships. White men generally are linked to Asian women and then Latina women. I think that's the most common form of interracial relationship. Also black men and white women are very prominent and the most prominent of black interracial relationships, way more than black women and white men which is almost nonexistent statistically. My black friend with a young daughter said she did not approve of Disney promoting this interracial relationship because it would teach her young black daughter unrealistic expectations that she could get a white man in her life when that doesn't happen for black women. So Disney is actively ruining the lives of young black women which is the most racist thing they've done yet after making that blackwashed Frog trash.

I had no idea Disney was only looking for black or brown actresses for Snow White. That disgusts me and hits hard because this is my national culture being made fun of here. Snow White is white and that's part of her heritage and legacy. To try and taint that with blackness or brownness is personally offensive to me and my people. Honestly, foreign countries need to start boycotting America and Disney. They wouldn't pull this stunt with Mulan by casting a Jamaican for her, but then again, they did the next worse thing and didn't include any Chinese people on the crew so that it was a white woman's vision of Mulan. White feminism at it again. Disney would never cast Anya Taylor Joy because even though she's ethnically diverse, they don't cry about the genetics. They only care about the optics which is that she's a white woman and they don't want a white woman. White is out even if she's not completely white. Another form of racism here.

My comment on the sexualities of the actors is when they are being used to change the sexualities of the characters or promote an agenda. Like Elemental had a nonbinary actor who admitted that their character was nonbinary like themself. Rumors were that Wish was meant to feature Asha as a lesbian like her actress (who I think is lesbian or bi) until Disney was afraid of backlash after Lightyear and Strange World. And didn't Josh Gad push LeFou to be gay even though the original Beast movie (and its script which I've read) makes clear that he oogles at the Bimbettes and desires them? Not Gaston? There are gay actors who play straight characters and are horrified at the idea of those characters being turned gay just because they themselves are gay. How it's called acting and it's offensive to turn straight characters gay especially when those gay actors have put so much time and love into playing them straight to showcase their acting.

[reee9948]

Hiring people only to check a box and to appear inclusive and not because they are talented, creative individual is bound to bring calamity to the studio. The most infamous example of this is the race swapping in the Disney Live Aciton movie. They purposely only hire non white actor to fill the Dei quota like with the Little Mermaid and Snow White. It was stated they were only looking for black actresses for Ariel and Latinas for Snow White so it was not like Disney was open to audition of people of all races and they happen to choose Rachel Zegler and Hallie Bailey because they are the most talented. They were only hired because they are a minority.

With Trump bringing an end to DEI, do you think this will help Disney somewhat? I know Disney main issue is their problem with story telling, but I think the issue was worsened by the DEI because they wouldn't hire someone base on their merit, but base on their labels even if they aren't qualified for the job. I also know excessive executive meddling is also a huge issue too Modern Disney, but I think with removing DEI, it will help a lot because sometimes an executive would tell the creative to adjust the story to appease a certain poltical agenda if you catch my drift.

I'm not saying the single new change will bring a new golden age for Disney, but I hope at least the change will force Disney to learn from their mistake and to get out of their local echo chamber and be more in touch with reality.

[Pokenonbinary]

No, next question.

[tsom]

I am this close to deleting my account on this forum. I'm so serious. It's getting ridiculous at this point with threads and messages like this.

[carolinakid]

OP, I hope so...

Make Disney Great Again!!!!!

[ameneth]

Yes, we are in a new age. We've had enough of DEI and wokeness. As a longterm Disney fan, I have felt alienated from the community until seeing posts like this.

[ameneth]

I hope everyone is right. As a proud Christian woman, I'm sick of seeing everyone turned into blacks or gays. Disney used to be about family values until it got obsessed with the gay agenda and changing everyone's genders and making everyone black.

[Mooky]

Kindly seek professional help, thedisneyspirit / Lavendergolden / ameneth.

[Vlad]

I sure hope so.

[Thumper_93]

I hope everyone is right. As a proud Christian woman, I'm sick of seeing everyone turned into blacks or gays. Disney used to be about family values until it got obsessed with the gay agenda and changing everyone's genders and making everyone black.

Sure...all the Disney characters are gay right now. Asha had an affair with the Queen Amaia, Buzz Lightyear had sex*ual relationships with Woody...even Lightning Mcqueen is having s3x with Mate! Please stop this thing!

I honestly think that all of you are people that doesn't have anything more important in your life than complain about Disney characters.
I am the first one who's tired about Disney changing races but honestly I don't see any problem with new characters that are not white. As a Christian you should follow Jesus words and not judging other people

[carolinakid]

^^^^^ he says as he proceeds to judge other posters....

[Thumper_93]

^^^^^ he says as he proceeds to judge other posters....

I'm judging a behaviour and a comment that is saying that Disney is only familiar when heterosexual people and non white people are part of the cast of a movie. I'm also christian and I don't need to exclude anybody because everybody has their place in the world. I don't know this person but his behaviour is no the one that Jesus Christ wanted.

[carolinakid]

Matthew 7: 3-5

[DisneyJedi]

https://thatparkplace.com/disneydiversity-sec/

I don’t know how legit this article is, but according to it, Disney may be sticking to its guns when it comes to DEI. That, of course, isn’t just concerning film casting.

Also, is it bad that I liked that they cast Halle as Ariel, partly based on the fact Halle can sing and that being a key part of Ariel as a character, who’s known by the rest of the characters for having the most beautiful voice?

[carolinakid]

Re: that article ^^
I wouldn’t necessarily list my being queer as a “skill”, but thank you, Disney!

[Thumper_93]

Matthew 7: 3-5

I'm not going to talk with you about religion or about The Bible. I don't even talk with you in other threads. I don't care about you at all so have a good day.

[carolinakid]

What a lovely Christian attitude, Mr Inclusion, bless your heart!

And I’m having a GREAT day, muchas gracias!