Snow White (Live-Action)

[Thumper_93]

I don't think that LA's Cinderella is more passive than the animated one. She has her own principles and she doesn't doubt when she has to deffend them (for example when she's talking with the prince during the hunting). She also deffends the prince from her stepmother. One scene that I really liked it is when Lady T. says that she's her mother and Ella replies her saying that she's not her mother and that she'll never be. She has strong moments in the film but at the same time she mantains Cinderella's innocence and personality.
About SW's original ending I suppose that after the Queen's death SW turned into the new Queen but honestly it's a plot that doesn't add anything new into the story. It's a film from 1937 so we can't ask for much more. The story is great and it's well told.

[Disney Duster]

Also, taking back the kingdom makes sense. If your father remarried and then died, and your stepmother turned out to be evil and ruined your home, wouldn't you want to take it back from her? Snow White is a princess and heir apparent. She is the rightful ruler of her kingdom. I rewatched the original animated film last week and at the end I was like "Ok, so she goes with the prince to his castle, but then what happens to her own kingdom? Who is now in charge?"

But in Cinderella's live-action, we never see Cinderella girlboss against Tremaine, who has her home. I know you do have a point, who will become ruler of Snow White's kingdom, that is a very, very true and good point. I guess you are right. I just...so far I do not like Zegler's choices as Snow White. Not even a similar version of her iconic voice.

I don't think that LA's Cinderella is more passive than the animated one. She has her own principles and she doesn't doubt when she has to deffend them (for example when she's talking with the prince during the hunting). She also deffends the prince from her stepmother. One scene that I really liked it is when Lady T. says that she's her mother and Ella replies her saying that she's not her mother and that she'll never be. She has strong moments in the film but at the same time she mantains Cinderella's innocence and personality.
About SW's original ending I suppose that after the Queen's death SW turned into the new Queen but honestly it's a plot that doesn't add anything new into the story. It's a film from 1937 so we can't ask for much more. The story is great and it's well told.

I suppose Cinderella did stand up for stuff. It's just that in the original, she was even better. She yelled at her stepmother to set her free, she got Bruno to help her out, and she used the other slipper to save her happy ending.

[Thumper_93]

Cinderella didn't do anything to take her home back because Lady T and her two daughters were her family. Her father told her to mantain the home united and she promissed her mother to be kind with others. Sometimes in your life you need to realize that there are many ways to be kind and that some people doesn't deserve this kidness because they hurt you all the time.
She was kind with her stepsisters and her stepmother but she realized at some point that they didn't deserve it anymore and that it was her time to be happy. She forgave them and she started a new life. That's the best way to show how great the character is.
It's not only the meaning of "Have courage and be kind" it's the way that the character mantained her principles during all the film transforming them at the same time that she realized that she deserved a better life.
They can put all the phrases that they want in a movie but they need to develope the character to give it some sense the same way that they did with Cinderella.

[Disney Duster]

I completely agree, Thumper! That was so well said! And, in the illustrated novel, she does go back to her home for her honeymoon, so she does keep the house in the royal family, taking it back from her stepfamily, though they didn't say that part in the movie!

[Farerb]

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[Disney's Divinity]

I still think the courage stuff in Cinderella was dumb, sorry. Even the be kind part was unnecessary to me. We didn't have to have her dead mother there with a tag line to explain Cinderella being a good person, anyone knows already how to be good and kind without a backstory to explain the reason why.

I think Snow White here is more unlike animated SW than remake Cinderella is unlike animated Cinderella, but they are both dissimilar to their animated counterparts, only in the reverse. Cinderella became a doormat and SW became a warrior.

[Disney Duster]

I still think the courage stuff in Cinderella was dumb, sorry. Even the be kind part was unnecessary to me. We didn't have to have her dead mother there with a tag line to explain Cinderella being a good person, anyone knows already how to be good and kind without a backstory to explain the reason why.

I think Snow White here is more unlike animated SW than remake Cinderella is unlike animated Cinderella, but they are both dissimilar to their animated counterparts, only in the reverse. Cinderella became a doormat and SW became a warrior.

It is ok. However, I will argue not everyone knows how to be a good person, if, maybe say, they had an abusive childhood, or abusive environment all their lives. Cinderella did face abuse, but this was after very kind parents.

[Sotiris]

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[Thumper_93]

I still think the courage stuff in Cinderella was dumb, sorry. Even the be kind part was unnecessary to me. We didn't have to have her dead mother there with a tag line to explain Cinderella being a good person, anyone knows already how to be good and kind without a backstory to explain the reason why.

I think Snow White here is more unlike animated SW than remake Cinderella is unlike animated Cinderella, but they are both dissimilar to their animated counterparts, only in the reverse. Cinderella became a doormat and SW became a warrior.

I don't agree with you. Not everybody know what's good or what's bad. Parents use to be the people who teach you how to be good and make right things during your childhood. Not everybody teach their sons the same way and not everybody is a good person. I think that they did it great including how Ella's mother showed her how to be a good person. She mantained what her mother teached her even after all the horrible things that happened to her during the movie. Other people could have gone mad and transformed themselves into a bad person but she didn't. She treated everybody the same way that she would like to be treaten and she continued being a nice person thanks to her mother and her great personality.

[DisneyFan09]

Well, I like the new pictures. They were very appealing.

This trailer looks really good. When she smiles, Rachel Zegler is actually likeable as Snow White. Meanwhile, Gal Gadot is the best thing about the movie. I don't think her acting is bad, and it looks like she had a lot of fun playing the Queen.

I agree that Gadot is a good thing about this movie. My gripe with her is that she`s not particularly pretty enough, as the Queen in the original was actually a very beautiful woman (in fact, even more beautiful than Snow White). But at least it makes sense to have Snow White be more beauitful than the Queen, due to how it`s her purpose in the story. And I don`t mean it as a disregard.

[Disney's Divinity]

I don't agree with you.

Okay. I still know my opinion is right--you don't need to have had good parents to know how to be a good person. Everybody knows innately at least the basics about treating others well versus treating them poorly. Better versions of the story never needed to insert it either because doing what's right for its own sake despite others choosing to do wrong by you is a simple concept.

[Vlad]

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She should definitely smile more...she is pretty when she does.

[Disney Duster]

Okay. I still know my opinion is right--you don't need to have had good parents to know how to be a good person. Everybody knows innately at least the basics about treating others well versus treating them poorly. Better versions of the story never needed to insert it either because doing what's right for its own sake despite others choosing to do wrong by you is a simple concept.

Tell this too a child who had been abused all their life. They may think the response to any harm to them is harm back unless they are too afraid they will get worse harm back from that. Have you forgotten many, many parents actually do sometimes have to tell children, "Being mean to people is not ok"?

[Thumper_93]

I don't agree with you.

Okay. I still know my opinion is right--you don't need to have had good parents to know how to be a good person. Everybody knows innately at least the basics about treating others well versus treating them poorly. Better versions of the story never needed to insert it either because doing what's right for its own sake despite others choosing to do wrong by you is a simple concept.

I don't need you to agree with me. Your opinion is not all right no matter how hard you defend it. Have a nice day

[Sotiris]

I didn't think it was too bad to see Cinderella's mother there, but I had no idea how courage related to Cinderella's story. Particularly that version, Cinderella is even more passive than the 1950 original.

In fact, it made Cinderella even more submissive in the remake and frankly more gentle and sweeter. For all of the rants that Cinderella gets for being too passive in Walt's version, she does have her moments where she is downright assertive. And she does comes across as a dignified and mature lady, overall.

I still think the courage stuff in Cinderella was dumb, sorry. Even the be kind part was unnecessary to me. We didn't have to have her dead mother there with a tag line to explain Cinderella being a good person, anyone knows already how to be good and kind without a backstory to explain the reason why.

Better versions of the story never needed to insert it either because doing what's right for its own sake despite others choosing to do wrong by you is a simple concept.

I also agree with the above. The Cinderella remake is so overrated. I can't believe there are people who even prefer it over the animated original.

[Disney's Divinity]

Well, I do prefer other versions of Cinderella and SW over the animated films, but I never got the appeal of the 2015 remake, I admit. I wouldn't say it's more popular than other remakes that Disney has had, only the crowd that do love it are more vocal whereas modt people who enjoyed Aladdin, B&tB, TLK, TLM, etc. are more passive or casual about it.

[Disney Duster]

But Sotiris and Divinity, Ella's mother had to tell Ella to use her kindness. Ella had to choose to be kind to her stepfamily so they would let her live with them, to be kind to the stag and say her stance on kindness so the Prince would fall in love with her, and be kind to the Fairy Godmother as a beggar woman so she would help her. It all led to her survival and salvation.

The 2015 version is not as emotional or powerful as the original...but focusing more on the human characters and relationships are the things it did better and made it near as good as the original.

[Pokenonbinary]

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They should have casted a mediterranean looking dude for this character

Like why Snow White and The Queen are both mediterranean and the rest look very germanic

It's like with the Little Mermaid that Halle and the queen were the only black actresses

Like if you "racebend" a character why not do the entire cast?

(I still don't get why they made Prince Eric white and say he was adopted, like so pointless, just cast a black or biracial dude)

[Disney's Divinity]

Why? Because the racebends are gimmicks and tokenism. Original films with diversity show more commitment than the remakes do.

[Lele]

I like the visual around the evil queen, the vibe is appropriate and it looks good. Surprised that they used a byzantine robe but it does looks majestic. Too bad the movie is miscast and Gadot can't carry the role so it will all end flat.