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So far Moana 2 is off to a fresh start on Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic with a score of 70% with 46 reviews so far and 64% on MC with 13 reviews so far.

Good start and maybe it will convince the families their ticket will be worth it.
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D23ExpoVisitor25, I am curious— can you tell us how much Maui is in it? When it was a TV show, I wouldn’t have been surprised if Maui had been a guest star for one episode so they wouldn’t have had to pay Dwayne Johnson as much. Is Maui in this movie as much as the first?
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UmbrellaFish wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:29 am D23ExpoVisitor25, I am curious— can you tell us how much Maui is in it? When it was a TV show, I wouldn’t have been surprised if Maui had been a guest star for one episode so they wouldn’t have had to pay Dwayne Johnson as much. Is Maui in this movie as much as the first?
He’s in it a good amount.
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D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:40 am
UmbrellaFish wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:29 am D23ExpoVisitor25, I am curious— can you tell us how much Maui is in it? When it was a TV show, I wouldn’t have been surprised if Maui had been a guest star for one episode so they wouldn’t have had to pay Dwayne Johnson as much. Is Maui in this movie as much as the first?
He’s in it a good amount.
Bad for me. I don't like him too much.
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I’ve come across two reviews, both negative, saying it’s pointless and that Disney has apparently lost it’s way. I’m not a huge fan of the original to begin with so I’m skipping this one, at least until it’s digital release… oh how I long back for the golden renaissance days of my youth…
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I quite enjoyed it. The story is solid, songs were all memorable and catchy, there were plenty of gags and jokes, the animation and character design were all great.

My biggest issue was the change of aspect ratio compared to the original. So distracting and inconsistent.
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Luke`s review is up! And he`s actually praising the movie and giving it a good review.
https://dvdizzy.com/moana2/#review.

He`s also defending Wish and stating how he`s struggling to understand it flopped.
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My only issue with the film was: You kind of have to suspend disbelief at the ending: If people from other islands were coming to the cursed island, if Moana and Maui weren't already ahead and defeated the curse...um, these people would have died, or I'm missing something? And biggest coincidence ever that that many people from other islands were all headed there at the same exact time...?

I think there was a lot of heart. And I laughed a lot. The new crew members are great.

I think "Beyond" isn't too vague in the scope of what Moana is about to embark on, what she's leaving behind to go on this voyage.

It didn't feel *too* disjointed and episodic.

Stay for the mid credits scene.

The snake from Zootopia 2 was in the end credits.
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blackcauldron85 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:07 pm Stay for the mid credits scene.
Is there only a mid credits scene or is there an after credits as well?
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Farerb wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:42 pm
blackcauldron85 wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:07 pm Stay for the mid credits scene.
Is there only a mid credits scene or is there an after credits as well?
Just the mid credits scene.
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Thank you :)
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I'll probably elaborate later on, but my initial read was not impressive.

Most of my issues stemmed from the fact that Moana's mission here feels so empty. I didn't really feel like Moana as a character was really being tested. There are some physical obstacles to overcome, sure, there always is, but I don't really know what Moana was trying to prove with this mission. All the insights and revelations she needed to advance felt handed to her by other characters, and I honestly think they could have landed on ANY vaguely philosophical life lesson and it would have made no difference.

The songs weren't actively cringeworthy like in WISH, but I've already forgotten the melodies for like half of them. I will say though that Auli'i's voice has really grown and I am ever grateful that they had the decency to write to that.

I'd say that now I just have to hunker down until Zootopia 2, but something tells me I'll be left wanting until at least their next original piece.
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Why did Disney never consider bringing back Elyssa Samsel and Kate Anderson for this or for Wish? I thought their work on Olaf's Frozen Adventure was decent.
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My theory for why Barlow and Bear were given the Moana assignment is that it was intended as an industry “F U” to Netflix. Who, of course, had sued B+B for their Bridgerton Unofficial Musical. That’s the kind of petty decision making I expect in the streaming wars.

I don’t mean to discredit their talent especially as I haven’t listened to the soundtrack, but ever since they were announced, that’s been my suspicion for why they got the edge over other B-list songwriting teams who may have been considered.

If I had been in Bob Iger’s shoes, I’d have chucked out what was already written and speed-dialed LMM as soon as I made the decision to bring this to theaters. But that would have cost more money (and honestly, probably a whole retooling of the script), and Moana 2 is clearly an example of Disney trying to make the most money while spending the least.

WOM doesn’t seem bad enough to affect the BO, so this will still do gangbusters. But I think it’s destined to be forever remembered as the weak link in the inevitable Moana trilogy.
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Netflix should have tried to capitalize on their musical and try to get them to make an official musical special or something.

I don't think Lin Manuel Miranda would have accepted to work on a movie that was going to be released in less than a year. Maybe they'll get him back for the third movie if and when it happens, though it seems to me at least that they don't really care about music anymore. I also guess that LMM and the Lopezes got too expensive for them and that's probably why they only get the Lopezes to do Frozen films but nothing else (like Wish). It wouldn't surprise me to learn that it's also the reason why they don't bring Menken back for a new project (or Stephen Schwartz or Tim Rice).
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Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:53 am Netflix should have tried to capitalize on their musical and try to get them to make an official musical special or something.
As I understand, Barlow and Bear at first were legally were allowed to push a Bridgerton musical on social media online under fair use/parody laws (i.e., it was free to access online and not being charged).

B&B then wanted to launch the Bridgerton musical in a real-life theater with real-life ticket sales. When Netflix found out, they were willing to partner and negotiate a license with Barlow and Bear so the Bridgerton musical could be performed. Barlow and Bear, for some reason, refused the Netflix partnership and did the live show/sold merchandise against Netflix's wishes. And that's when the lawsuit came about.

(Source and lawsuit document: https://x.com/NoContxtBR/status/1553244 ... nuTjQ&mx=2
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The lawsuit was since dropped but I believe as a consequence the Bridgerton musical can never be performed live again.

I guess Disney thought having young women song writers with social media clout would be beneficial for Moana.
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Farerb wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:53 amI don't think Lin Manuel Miranda would have accepted to work on a movie that was going to be released in less than a year.
Yes, I think that’s true. I think the best case scenario for fans would have been for Disney to have moved forward with Moana the TV series as intended, Barlow and Bear and all. And to have started developing a sequel film, unrelated to the TV series (except, perhaps, in continuity). But after Wish last year, they needed a win, so here we are.
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Moana 2 has officially received an A- on CinemaScore, same CS as Ralph Breaks The Internet and Frozen II: https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/g4tDFipH5H.
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