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This has B cinemascore written on, I said that it's very unlikely since kids movies normally get A (specially disney ones, with only strange world as the exception) but wow I'm seeing the same pattern as Strange World

Maybe a B+ instead of a B
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blackcauldron85 wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:52 pm I saw Wish a few hours ago. I loved it. I felt like I had already watched a lot of it due to the clips released but there was still a lot of excitement.

Magnifico is great. It felt satisfying having a villain again for sure.

I love Asha. She has a big heart. I love Dahlia too. All the Teens ended up being good characters.

Valentino and Star got lots of laughs in my pretty-full theater.

I really like the songs. I already did but it was exciting seeing them with the visuals.

The end credits did not give a clue of what the next film will be that I saw.



I started getting concerned about Easter eggs - there felt like a lot in the very beginning; I'm sure I forgot some in my list below. But it eased up and I could focus on the story.

The movie got really exciting as Magnifico got more and more evil. With
(major spoiler) The Teens in addition to Asha being wanted.

Most of the DACs were represented in the credits (remember how the Star-outline of Yzma was posted here). I think the only movies not represented were most package films (SA, T3C, MMM, F&FF, MT), The Rescuers/TRDU, The Black Cauldron, Meet the Robinsons, (while Fantasia 2000 was represented, Winnie the Pooh, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and Frozen II were not).

Easter eggs that I remembered when I came home:

Mickey Mouse- a pen under Star's magic started drawing the Mickey silhouette; at the end, fireworks are in the classic Mickey shape

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs- opening card was similar to SW's; poisoned apple in Magnifico's room; wishing well; mine car Asha travels in; Asha's cottage (on the outside); Asha calls Dahlia the Doctor of advice or something like that

Pinocchio - Saba plays "When You Wish Upon a Star" on his lute(?) in the post-credits scene

Bambi - the bear called the deer "Bambi;" a rabbit thumped his foot

Cinderella- Asha doing the transformation pose near the end; a large apple (instead of a large pumpkin); Fairy Godmother outfit; magic wand;
Pretty big spoiler: Asha becomes the fairy godmother of Rosas at the end thanks to Star.

Alice in Wonderland- singing flowers/mushrooms I suppose

Peter Pan- at the end a guy named Peter dressed similarly to Pan wants to invent a flying machine; a silhouette of Peter flying in a wish bubble; Magnifico says something about "NeverLand," but as an action, not as a place

Sleeping Beauty- Aurora's blue dress in a wish bubble; green magic; Asha dancing with woodland animals on top of each other

Beauty and the Beast- I'm pretty sure there was a reference but I can't think of it

The Lion King- Valentino says where balls of gas come from

Treasure Planet (or Peter Pan)- there was a ship in a wish bubble... didn't look like the RLS Legacy so idk

Tangled- I doubt Magnifico's room being in the tower is a reference to Tangled...

Frozen- "We love crazy" said by the mushrooms

Zootopia- at the end, Valentino said he "wished" (not a wish bubble or anything) or wanted a metropolis where all mammals are equal and wear clothes

Frozen II- pack of deer around Asha reminded me of "Lost in the Woods;" I think there was another reference but I think it had to do with the deer...so similar
There’s something I’m interested to know: does Bazeema have a character arc where she starts off really shy but then becomes more courageous during the movie and at the end is completely sociable?
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ElMaximo13 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:46 am

There’s something I’m interested to know: does Bazeema have a character arc where she starts off really shy but then becomes more courageous during the movie and at the end is completely sociable?
I don't know if I would say she's completely sociable, but yes, she starts out introverted and does get more courageous.
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Dear all, I've been following this discussion for the past few weeks but I don't think I have yet shared my expectations for Wish.

If you had asked me my prediction one month ago, I would have said that I expect Wish to be a well-made, competent film, but not a great one. This is because what I saw in the trailers looked to be generally up to standard, but also derivative of recent female-led WDAS features. After these lukewarm-to-negative reviews, my expectations have really sunk, because it does seem the movie will be comprised of everything I was hoping would be in minimal supply.

Listen, I realise many of you love female-led WDAS films, but after The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, Frozen, Moana, Raya and Encanto, the studio needs to seriously rethink the feel-good, charming stories they cook up, headlined by feel-good, supposedly-charming, teenage heroines. Really, it's always the same character in different garb.

Which is why Wish is likely a creative failure. The centennial celebration film from WDAS should have been an veritable firework of creative juices, celebrating the familiar but doing something new and exciting at the same time. Instead, I suspect we get Tangled for the seventh time.

I will watch this in cinemas when it releases in Malta come November 29th, but I will be going to the cinema with a dark cloud over my head.
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blackcauldron85 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:48 am
ElMaximo13 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:46 am

There’s something I’m interested to know: does Bazeema have a character arc where she starts off really shy but then becomes more courageous during the movie and at the end is completely sociable?
I don't know if I would say she's completely sociable, but yes, she starts out introverted and does get more courageous.
Thanks for replying. Something else I want to know is this: her official character description says that she’s “full of surprises”, but would it be possible for you to tell me what that means without any major spoilers?
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ElMaximo13 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:26 am
Thanks for replying. Something else I want to know is this: her official character description says that she’s “full of surprises”, but would it be possible for you to tell me what that means without any major spoilers?
I don't know how big of a spoiler it is, and I won't tell you the context behind it, which would be a big spoiler, but she has a secret "hiding" spot... since she's an introvert, she likes to get away by herself sometimes.
Oh and also she appears and disappears often, which surprises The Teens.
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blackcauldron85 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:28 am
ElMaximo13 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:26 am
Thanks for replying. Something else I want to know is this: her official character description says that she’s “full of surprises”, but would it be possible for you to tell me what that means without any major spoilers?
I don't know how big of a spoiler it is, and I won't tell you the context behind it, which would be a big spoiler, but she has a secret "hiding" spot... since she's an introvert, she likes to get away by herself sometimes.
Oh and also she appears and disappears often, which surprises The Teens.
Thanks. I can’t wait to see the movie for myself to find out the context behind her hiding place. It sounds pretty interesting.
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Unfortunately I won't be able to watch the film before December 7 :(
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I saw an early screening of Wish yesterday.

Screw Rotten Tomatoes! Screw all the naysaying critics!

We wanted a love letter from Disney Animation to its past and fans? We got it!

I won’t go into spoilers and I know I’m still on a post-movie high not even a full day later, but I will say I haven’t felt this genuinely happy about a Disney movie in forever! :D
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While it's upsetting that the reviews aren't as good as I hoped, critics never really meant anything for my own enjoyment or anticipation of a movie. I'm still really looking forward to watching it next week!

Now that I have heard all the songs I'm very curious to see "At All Costs" on screen because I'm pretty sure this is going to be one of those songs people play at Disney weddings :lol: I get that they're not singing towards each other but without that context it does sound romantic, or at most like a "You'll Be In My Heart" family love song. It really does sounds like they're singing towards a person and not something abstract like the wishes or Rosas with those lyrics though. It's also interesting how some languages have them addressing a singular "you" and others a plural. Still, it's a beautiful song! I'm waiting for visuals to rank them all.
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DisneyJedi wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:23 am I saw an early screening of Wish yesterday.

Screw Rotten Tomatoes! Screw all the naysaying critics!

We wanted a love letter from Disney Animation to its past and fans? We got it!

I won’t go into spoilers and I know I’m still on a post-movie high not even a full day later, but I will say I haven’t felt this genuinely happy about a Disney movie in forever! :D
Everytime someone says fuck critics I know the movie will be REALLY BAD...
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The RT score is now at 55%. I thought the score would go higher as more reviews comes in, but it just keeps going down.
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Pokenonbinary wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:41 pm
DisneyJedi wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:23 am I saw an early screening of Wish yesterday.

Screw Rotten Tomatoes! Screw all the naysaying critics!

We wanted a love letter from Disney Animation to its past and fans? We got it!

I won’t go into spoilers and I know I’m still on a post-movie high not even a full day later, but I will say I haven’t felt this genuinely happy about a Disney movie in forever! :D
Everytime someone says fuck critics I know the movie will be REALLY BAD...
Well, it is the same site that gave a rotten score to The Super Mario Bros Movie and Five Nights At Freddy’s (both movies I really loved) while giving a certified fresh to trash like Cuties.
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Farerb wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 pmThe RT score is now at 55%. I thought the score would go higher as more reviews comes in, but it just keeps going down.
I think such a low score from critics does not only reflect their views on Wish, but Disney's output in general. It's indicative of an increasing cultural shift away from Disney. People don't feel the need to be lenient on them or give them the benefit of a doubt.
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Farerb wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 pm The RT score is now at 55%. I thought the score would go higher as more reviews comes in, but it just keeps going down.
This one is definitely getting mixed reactions from critics. Audience response seems to be more favorable, though, but we'll see. It could go either way.

Although from what I am seeing, it seems like that Wish isn't so much a bad movie as it is only an average/OK kind of film, and considering that this is supposed to be the 100th anniversary film, you can't blame anyone for being disappointed. So on that note it might be a letdown. But if the film is still enjoyable and you don't go in with those kind of expectations it might play better.

My expectation is that it will be a pleasant enough outing, but not in the same league as the other Disney classics. I still refuse to believe it will be as bad as Home on the Range or Ralph Breaks the Internet, though. Those two were just awful. What baffles me is that critics reviewed that one. I don't know what they were thinking but it was obvious to me that that movie was a commercial disguised as a movie.
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I have to ask, has Disney actually been marketing this movie? Because I was told that Wish’s marketing was “only slightly better” than the more recent films and that even families with kids had no idea it was around the corner. I would like to believe that Wish is being marketed like there’s no tomorrow, but… yeah. :?
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DisneyJedi wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:40 pm
Pokenonbinary wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:41 pm
Everytime someone says fuck critics I know the movie will be REALLY BAD...
Well, it is the same site that gave a rotten score to The Super Mario Bros Movie and Five Nights At Freddy’s (both movies I really loved) while giving a certified fresh to trash like Cuties.

I haven't seen 5 nights but Mario was a very bad movie

And not the Cuties argument again...RT is just a review agregator, they don't review movies

Also it's a movie directed by a black French Senegalese exmuslim woman about her own life experiences, the fact that 99% of people haven't even seen the movie
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DisneyJedi wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:25 pm I have to ask, has Disney actually been marketing this movie? Because I was told that Wish’s marketing was “only slightly better” than the more recent films and that even families with kids had no idea it was around the corner. I would like to believe that Wish is being marketed like there’s no tomorrow, but… yeah. :?
I've heard that complaint too, that some people I know only know the film is coming out because I let them know about it...I've heard short commercials on the radio (no dialogue from the film, just announcing that it'll be in theaters), and Cartoon Network plays TV spots...I'd like to think that ABC and Disney Channel, Freeform, etc, are advertising it, but I don't know.

They hopefully are advertising it on Disney+ and Hulu; if they're not advertising it on YouTube then that's a mistake...
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