Wish

[carolinakid]

So then, if I understand correctly, Asha will be half Iberian on her father’s side and half Berber on her mother’s side. Hmm...

[Pokenonbinary]

So then, if I understand correctly, Asha will be half Iberian on her father’s side and half Berber on her mother’s side. Hmm...

Amazigh* Berber is considered kinda offensive since the name comes from Barbarian and violent and savage

Her mother is a tuareg amazigh and his dad is someone born in the Iberian Peninsula (they use those words for her father and Sabino, same for Magnifico and Amaya)

I guess to remember that the iberian peninsula is diverse, specially during that time

Anyways I hate that the concept art are more ethnically correct; like search Al Andalus clothes and you will see that the actual costumes are more like british medieval then andalusi

[carolinakid]

I remember the Walt Disney short The Blue Men of Morocco from 1957. It was paired with the 1957 rerelease of Cinderella.
It was part of the studios’ People and Places series, a collection of 17 shorts that were released between 1953 and 1960.

So Asha’s mother comes from this Berber culture perhaps...

[Pokenonbinary]

I remember the Walt Disney short The Blue Men of Morocco from 1957. It was paired with the 1957 rerelease of Cinderella.
It was part of the studios’ People and Places series, a collection of 17 shorts that were released between 1953 and 1960.

So Asha’s mother comes from this Berber culture perhaps...

She's a tuareg, they exist in Morocco but they're more common in Níger, Mauritania, Lybia etc

[blackcauldron85]

More from The Art of Wish, by Stephen Rebello and Kimmer Baughman, Chronicle Books, ©2023. I'll keep posting more as I go through the book.

Pages16-17: "... multiculturalism...through languages...it feels natural that multiple languages would be used within one family. So we asked Lior Lev and Noor Rasoul, story artists who are from the respective cultures, to help us with the Hebrew and Arabic terms of endearment..."

Page 18- Sabino is Asha's great-grandfather.

Page 31- Magnifico's desk items come to life like "The Sorcerer's Apprentice"

Page 34- Widescreen = Sleeping Beauty

Page 34- "... placing the king in the center of the screen, as well as having symmetry, and straight, architectural lines. In the song, we pretty much followed Magnifico around like Aurora."- Emily Xu, Story Artist

Page 38- "Nestled in the beech tree forest just outside the city of Rosas, the Hamlet is the charming village where [Asha] lives... harkening back to the forest and cottage in" SW&t7D.

Page 43: "...story change...after we designed the Hamlet. It used to be a hidden refuge. Asha and her community were hiding in the forest far away from Magnifico, so he couldn't find them and steal their wishes."- Lisa Keene

"In that version, Asha's community built the village...after fleeing...Rosas, and lived off what they could find in the forest, making pine cone-flour bread and cultivating various dairy products. - David Womersley

"...there was a brief moment when the Hamlet might have been cut...it was such a beloved location, the team repurposed it as a suburb of Rosas."

Page 46- there is a wishing well

Page 50- "Asha is of North African and European descent." - Michael Giaimo

Page 51- "...Sakina is a weaver... spinning wheel...[where] Valentino's sweaters come from." -MG

Page 54- Hamlet vegetation inspired by Eyvind Earle/SB.

Page 19- "Walt Disney spent countless childhood hours on his family's...farm lying under a giant cottonwood he called the "Dreaming Tree"."

Page 56- Burbank has a tree where "people write their wishes on little strips of paper and leave them at the base of the trunk...plus [Walt's tree] made Asha's Wishing Tree feel almost kismet." - Fawn Veerasunthorn

Page 56- "In an earlier iteration... Asha's community write their wishes on strips of cloth and tied them to the Wishing Tree. These colorful ribbon-like wishes came to life around Asha as she made her wish. - Lisa Keene

Page 57- "The filmmakers loved the original visual of ribbons encircling Asha, and asked for colorful petals to blow in the wind when Asha makes a wish. The vines were my way of supporting that moment. - Brian Woods, Visual Development Artist

Page 58- "Rosas is a combination of Pinocchio's village and every castle we've ever done." -Lisa Keene

[UmbrellaFish]

One thing from the book that's a bit more spoilery is that Queen Amaya was going to be an evil coconspirator with Magnifico at first. You can read about it at this point of the flipthrough video. I wonder if they took inspiration from the Catholic Monarchs to create the royal couple.

With the Spanish inspired setting, I’ve been wondering that, too, re: Ferdinand and Isabella.

[Pokenonbinary]

I hope the movie is very successful successful we get a short film like Tangled and Frozen where the characters change clothes, because the other costumes for Asha (and hairstyles) are miles better

And I also like one of the previous hairstyles for Amaya (also in the book it says that her original name was Charo, but she can still be Charo Amaya

Amaya can be a name (normally written Amaia) but its mostly a last name, so she can be Charo Amaya

[blackcauldron85]

also in the book it says that her original name was Charo, but she can still be Charo Amaya

Amaya can be a name (normally written Amaia) but its mostly a last name, so she can be Charo Amaya

Page 126 of the art book says Amaya's cat, who was in an earlier version, was named Charo...not Amaya.

[carolinakid]

I’m kind of glad..... for many people the name Charo reminds us of the Spanish actress, singer, flamenco guitarist and “Cuchi-Cuchi” lady!

[Pokenonbinary]

I’m kind of glad..... for many people the name Charo reminds us of the Spanish actress, singer, flamenco guitarist and “Cuchi-Cuchi” lady!

That would have made the cat super iconic

Cuchi Cuchi lady is so iconic and she was the voice of an animated character so it's cartoon history

[carolinakid]

Absolutely!

[D82]

New tv spot https://twitter.com/portalwishbr/status ... 6143028566

There's a clear reference to Cinderella there at the beginning.

I just started reading the art book (I flipped through it when it came a couple nights ago). I'll post more (although I know cool things like Star's evolution have already been posted!) if I see something, but I wanted to share this:

Page 9 (Foreward):

Many ideas came and went, making space for what we have on-screen today. From our hero initially living in a remote, hidden town, to our teens being a group of rebels hanging out in a hidden lair, to Amaya being a hundred-year-old outcast queen wishing to restore her rule-- so many ideas ended up being cut or reworked."

Thanks for posting all that info from the book! It's curious that some of the things we speculated were actually considered by the filmmakers at some point. Asha having her own community which is being sought by Magnifico is similar to something Farerb said, and we also theorized the queen could be the real ruler of Rosas and Asha and her friends would help her regain the throne. Some also thought she would be evil, which she was going to be initially. It's also good to have confirmation Sabino is Asha's great-grandfather, and not her grandfather.

[Musical Master]

And another new TV spot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6w8G3zzEzk

[blackcauldron85]

Thanks for posting all that info from the book! It's curious that some of the things we speculated were actually considered by the filmmakers at some point.

You're welcome! I have more notes to share from what I read yesterday, and I haven't finished reading it, so more to come.

[blackcauldron85]

Page 58: "...the design inspirations of Rosas-- Romanesque architecture, Mudéjar ornamentation, and Mediterranean silhouette and color palette..."

Page 77: "Magnifico was originally conceived as an astrologist and alchemist, as well as being the king..." - Michael Giaimo

Page 79: "The glass altarpiece was originally designed as the location where Magnifico perfoms his forbidden magic, but now that takes place in his secret lair...the decision to have an ancient secret lair came very late in production and affected the design of the magic book as well. The lair is an ancient room that Magnifico discovered while doing renovations to his study, so the book had to be ancient too..." - David Womersley, art director of environments

"The dragon motif encircling the gem on the cover of Magnifico's forbidden magic book acts as a subtle bow to Maleficent..." - Michael Giaimo

Page 83:
https://imgur.com/kJ15F6p

Page 99:
https://imgur.com/SKXm8Gf

Page 160: "Right away people asked us, 'Is this film going to be hand drawn?'. It certainly could have been, and we did consider it, but for a film that embraces our past and our future, it couldn't solely be hand drawn. The question became, How do we achieve something that pays homage to both? That was our challenge to the team." - Chris Buck

"We've had films that started out with a goal of doing something different stylistically, but for various reasons would evolve back to our [photorealistic] CG aesthetic. It was so important for this one to push through. I think the challenge itself, the fact that this had never been done at the studio, is what attracted everybody." - Peter Del Vecho

"In the time I've been at the studio, I've talked to so many artists, and they've always wanted to push the look of our films. So when I heard this film was going to do it, I knew everyone was going to be very excited about it." - Juan Pablo Reyes Lancaster Jones

Page 161: "I started calling our style 'moving illustration,' inspired by Walt Disney's description of" SB "as 'the art of living, moving paintings'... with our use of the CG medium, we can produce moving illustration in a way Walt could only have dreamed." -Michael Giaimo

Page 162: "The team studied illustrators such as Gustaf Tenggren, John Bauer, Kay Nielsen, Arthur Rackham, and Edmund Dulac."

Page 164: "One of the first tests was to see how a CG character would look in 2D. Associate director of cinematography, lighting, Gregory Culp took a real hand-drawn background painting from Pinocchio and had CG Asha walk through the street. If there was any disconnect...the illusion would be broken."

Page 164:
https://imgur.com/uBsPSpx

Page 165:
https://imgur.com/9VeLRma

Page 166: "The goal was to have the final render look like a watercolor painting with hand-drawn linework...the artists developed a new lighting technique that makes surfaces appear soft and blurred...projected a layer of watercolor paper texture into the scene using a rendering technology developed by Brent Burley specifically for Wish that could automatically compensate for depth and a moving camera."

Page 169: "We did not use motion blur on Wish...the frames we draw make it to the screen exactly as we intended them." - Rebecca Wilson Bressee and Wayne Unten, Heads of Animation

Page 170: "On previous films, such as" BH6, Moana, & RatLD, "we had a live-action style of cinematography." - Rob Dressel, director of cinematography, layout

Page 170: "[for Wish] the team leaned in to classical animation cinematography, lingering on shots, using longer and wider lenses, and employing multiplane camera zoom techniques. "At first, we leaned too far into embodying the legacy films. [Buck] warned that we don't want people to actually think this is a 2D movie...call back to the 2D, but make it something no one has ever seen."" - Adolph Lusinsky, director of cinematography, lighting

Page 170: 2.55:1 aspect ratio

Page 173: 3 emotional themes: "imagination, status quo, and power and control."

Page 174: using early art of a plaza in Rosas, a multiplane test was done using a camera move based on Pinocchio.

Page 184: fabric used in the first wish ceremony (either the first ever or first we see; it doesn't say)= hand-drawn effect

Page 191, wish bubble part: "original hand-drawn effects were created for this film and guided our CG approach." -2D effects animator Dan Lund (I don't know if the bubbles are actually hand-drawn or just the development process included hand-drawn...)

Page 187: "The [water] ripples throughout Wish were patterned after "The Nutcracker Suite" in Fantasia..."

Page 189: "Maleficent's green flames, Frollo's hellfire, and Ursula's smoke hands all inspired Magnifico's forbidden magic."

(Head's up to Disney Duster for Pages 192 + 193!)
Page 192:
https://imgur.com/Gd8Jt5R

Page 193:
https://imgur.com/fV5Nocb

[Disney's Divinity]

I don't see the similarity to "Snuff Out the Light". That one was more theatrical, grander in scale, with a more cabaret sound. This one is much smaller in scope and has a very mid-'00s pop sound. Its sound is reminiscent of songs you would find in Disney Channel Original Movies. However, I do see the similarity to "You're Welcome", but not in terms of melody or sound. The rapping at the beginning and the "hook" of the song—the frequent repetition of the phrase 'this is the thanks I get'— makes believe the songwriters were trying to imitate LMM's style to a degree.

I agree with you. I don't hear SOtL, which I loved. It's a better version of "You're Welcome" mixed with "Shiny." I like it in a way, but I thought Magnifico would be more like Jafar, tbh. He's like a sillier Gaston going by the song.

Why does it feel like the songs have zero structure?

I don't hate the songs, but the weakest part for me is that the chorus of both it and "This Wish" repeat one line over and over. That's not surprising though considering the composer is a pop artist.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

My costume of Star from Disney’s Wish, for this coming Halloween Tuesday, is complete, guys. I can’t wait for you all to see it.

I hope you all like it or are impressed by the effort I put into it when you see it.

Especially as no one’s attempted to make this costume until now when I have been the first to do it. And I say that because there are no official costumes of Star yet.

[blackcauldron85]

Ooh, that's neat that you're making a Star costume! Can't wait to see it!

[Musical Master]

The international trailer now in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPeGiCH7A0

Also, the song "Welcome to Rosas" will be released this Wednesday.

[Farerb]

It's the same trailer as the international one that was released a while ago.