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Platinum Line questions is this correct?

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Aladdin -> This Year
Bambi -> March 2005
Cinderella -> October 2005
The Little Mermaid -> Probably 2006
Lady and the Tramp
101 Dalmatians
The Jungle Book
Sleeping Beauty
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Peter Pan

But the reak question is: Will there be a sleeping beauty platinum? And i'm not talking about pan & scan dvd I'm talking about the real thing!
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Please refer to this schedule by Luke, updated recently:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/pl ... evised.jpg

Disney announced that Sleeping Beauty WILL be a Platinum, but we don't know further details yet. Also, rumor is that there will be a Fantasia 2000 Platinum Edition.
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_Kevin_ wrote: But the reak question is: Will there be a sleeping beauty platinum? And i'm not talking about pan & scan dvd I'm talking about the real thing!
There is a sleeping beauty special edition and it is in cinemascope not pan and scan with tons of bonus features!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... eimprovemz
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Thanks! But no platinum edition?
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Oooh so there will be one that's great news!
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Kevin, you didn't pay attention to my post. You only looked at ichabod's. :x

I said:
Disney announced that Sleeping Beauty WILL be a Platinum, but we don't know further details yet.
Besides, Luke also said that in here: http://www.ultimatedisney.com/releasetypes.htm
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Yes i just read it i'm sorry i got it now! :oops: :lol:
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Seems that you noticed my first post right before I posted the last one... Oh, whatever... :roll:
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I think we should all be happy that Pinoccio will be released as Platinum. It's a movie I missed every other opportunity to get.
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How do you guys know all this info?
It sucks that theyre gonan release SB in PE i just bought it on Special Edition :cry:
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When was this "announcement" made and does anyone have links to an official statement?
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This announcement's been around since May of 2003 and NOW people are questioning it? The news wasn't released in print. It was on some audio report thing for stock holders. All of the major DVD sites reported it, so you could check their archives for the link (UD's archives only go back to July 2003).
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well you made it seem as though it's since been confirmed when the only questionable aspect of it's release was really the associated title branding which could have easily been misrepresented or confused in early reports or press statements prior to it's release. I just assumed from your repeated quoting of the alleged statement from Disney, that perhaps some new details had possibly surfaced... it would seem quite obvious to most everyone else that this proposed platinum edition has since been released last year under a special edition label because logistically and from any reasonable marketing standpoint, there would be little sense in revisiting the title within the next few years when we've already been given a beautifuly remastered transfer with a plethora of supplemental features worthy of any platinum edition label. there would have to be a major distinguishing signifigance in the way of extras and whatnot to warrant such which from Disney's home video division of all companies seems least likely, and even than, how many people would actually repurchase essentially the same set? Disney has it's fair share of unreleased classics to focus on and even afterwords, could still find justification to upgrade a few of the older gold collection titles so there is really very little chance that any other edition of Sleeping Beauty will be seeing it's way to retail shelves in an updated edition in this current dvd format.
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True, but then what about Pinocchio, Fantasia, and Peter Pan? Fantasia's already received CE treatment as part of the Fantasia Anthology, sure, but Pinocchio and Peter Pan haven't received any multi-disc treatment (in Region 1, anyway). So if you're saying that the Sleeping Beauty SE from 2003 was supposed to be a Platinum, then how is Disney going to manage their 2 platinum a year schedule starting next year? They're going to end up with one solitary platinum one year unless they re-release Sleeping Beauty. Really, by the time the original 10 platinums are released, Sleeping Beauty will have been out of print for some time, anyway, so who's to say it can't be released as a Platinum Edition in 2009 (since I believe we'll be seeing either Pinocchio, Fantasia, or Peter Pan in 2008)?

Oh, and in terms of confirmation from Disney itself, the link to the Yahoo news conference is dead, but these sites back up the claim:

(Davis DVD)
The Walt Disney Company announced last Thursday that it will step up the release cycle for its "Platinum Collection" of limited edition animated classics. Speaking to investors, Disney chairman and CEO Michael Eisner revealed that the company will double its Platinum DVD output to two titles a year, one released in March and the other in October. Additionally, the title will be available for two years and will be put on moratorium for five years. Look for these Platinum Collection titles over the next 3-4 years: 101 Dalmatians, Aladdin, Bambi, Cinderella, Fantasia, The Jungle Book, The Little Mermaid, Lady and the Tramp, Peter Pan, Pinocchio, and Sleeping Beauty.

(The Digital Bits)
In an online conference call with share holders regarding Q2 FY03 financial results, the studio revealed that it plans to accelerate its Platinum Edition DVD release plans. Part of the reason for this is that the company expects HD-DVD to be available by 2007, and they want to get all their catalog animated titles out on standard DVD by then (presumably so they can then do it all over again in HD). By accelerating these plans, we mean that the studio now intends to release their Platinum catalog at a rate of two films a year, one in March and one on October. Also, they now plan to leave them available for two years at a time, and then take them off the market for only five years (as opposed to the ten-year moratorium they'd previously announced). And they've added several more titles to their eventual 2-disc Platinum line-up, including Sleeping Beauty, Pinocchio, Fantasia and Peter Pan.

So if you think I'm basing all of this on some unfounded rumor going around, you'd be mistaken.
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Yes, but it doesn't mean that the re-release of a [Platinum] Sleeping Beauty has to have any different content.

Really, it's madness Disney adding to the already packed International 2 disc sets if they had a re-release planned, especially as some countries only got a single disc release.

For this reason, I don't think the re-release will be any different from the current release.
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who's to say the platinum line won't be dropped by than anyways when Disney's gone through their entire "classic" theatrical animated features? they have enough material in their extensive archives to profit off of dvd sales for the next 20 years. perhaps by than the focus will be on tv animation or better treatment given to their live action films? it's also obvious that these sets are only being made available to the public for a limited time to boost sales, so i'm sure we could start to expect re-releases of all the early titles in the same format by 2009/2010 anyways if we are still on the same home video technology so that those who missed out the first time around could own these titles and Disney could rake in more profit. as for pinnochio and peter pan... nothing is conclusive. i would expect to see those titles released as special editions much like sleeping beauty recently was in the years to come. remember that Disney's not the only studio to reissue their dvd's, perhaps more calculated, but if you consider something like the fantasia anthology to be an exclusive limited edition gift set along the lines of... i don't know, the extravagant schindler's list set from earlier this year made available on a single press first come first served basis... than it's not surprising that the general public would be offered something else down the line in the way of extras and so forth to enjoy as well. just because it "might" possibly be re-released as a platinum edition does not mean it will be the definitive version to own as the current anthology set is pretty painstakingly extensive. pixar might decide to reissue toy story in the future as well with some more special features and extras but who's to say they'll match the previous exclusive giftsets that a lucky few grabbed up? it's silly to assume anything right now in regards to title labels on Disney's dvd releases. all we can be sure of, is that from this point forward, anyone of the classic animated features to see a dvd release should and will be the one to get... unless you plan on waiting around for some high definition blue ray technology or something.
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I suspect the whole Quarterly report comment has been taken out of all proportion. While there is no doubt it was stated, it's not been repeated in any printed form from Disney.

As for looking at it logically, why would Disney state that there would be a "Platinum" Sleeping Beauty before the "special edition" was even released (remember all the conversations we had about if the cover would be changed or not?). It just doesn't make sense. Same with Peter Pan, while the SE had been out for a while, it wasn't OOP then.

As for the comment, it doesn't mean, as Stashone pointed out, that a Platinum edition is even coming. Maybe it just means the titles have been added to "the list" so when Disney does the equivilant of "Platinum" on the new format, or the same format second time around, they will be included.

I really wouldn't worry about it. Platinum doesn't really mean much, just as Special Edition, Collectors Edition, Anniversary Edition or Masterpiece Edition don't mean much (so much for the Masterpiece line, looks like that will die out after one release, judging from the list in the new Aladdin DVD booklet).
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Hey guys,

This is old news, this has been talked about for the past 2 years. And their are about 10 other threads that discuss this, but still welcome to the forum dude, enjoy your stay.
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What's in the Aladdin ad booklet about the Masterpiece editions? Isn't Lilo and Stitch as well as Pocahontas supposed to be MEditions? Or have they been shifted to "special?" Not that it makes a difference as long as they are produced.
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Pocahontas is likely to be an Anniversary, Mary Poppins is now an Anniversary and Mulan is just a Special Edition. I suspect Lilo and Stitch will end up just a Special Edition too.
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