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What Disney Releases Look Most Like Theatrical Prints or Technicolor Prints
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Well, this is just my opinion... based on what I know from my video collection and I have seen online:
Peter Fan: I think the color palette has remained the same since the Platinum edition (so plat, diamond, signature, all good). And I don't hear many complaints about this release (regarding color), they all make sense to me. I think the colors of the Special Edition dvd are way off.
Cinderella: for the time being, I think the closest thing is the laserdisc, but none are great. But with the upcoming 4K release, you may want to hold off.
Snow White: I think the Diamond/Signature editions are pretty good, but you do need to tinker with the contrast and saturation of your tv. Otherwise, it looks pretty flat.
Beauty And The Beast: this is a hard one. I'm going to say laserdisc. I don't think any of the releases are great, colorwise. I personally like the Diamond/signature (with my monitor turned to cinema-setting, which hikes up the contrast and darkens the whole thing), but none are perfect. Sadly, there is the glitch at the end of "Something there"... if that bothers you, you need the Platinum dvd or laserdisc.
Note: I saw a 35mm print of the film a couple of years ago... and it didn't look great. The closest thing to it was the work-in-progress window in on the Diamond edition.
Pinocchio: I'm pretty pleased with the blu rays... they all have the same transfer.
Little Mermaid: differences are mild, but I tend to prefer the Diamond ed, not the Signature. The color palette make the most sense to me. BUT... if you want a true reproduction of the original, with no edits/changes... you need to track down the limited edition DVD, with no bonus features.
Hope this helps!
Peter Fan: I think the color palette has remained the same since the Platinum edition (so plat, diamond, signature, all good). And I don't hear many complaints about this release (regarding color), they all make sense to me. I think the colors of the Special Edition dvd are way off.
Cinderella: for the time being, I think the closest thing is the laserdisc, but none are great. But with the upcoming 4K release, you may want to hold off.
Snow White: I think the Diamond/Signature editions are pretty good, but you do need to tinker with the contrast and saturation of your tv. Otherwise, it looks pretty flat.
Beauty And The Beast: this is a hard one. I'm going to say laserdisc. I don't think any of the releases are great, colorwise. I personally like the Diamond/signature (with my monitor turned to cinema-setting, which hikes up the contrast and darkens the whole thing), but none are perfect. Sadly, there is the glitch at the end of "Something there"... if that bothers you, you need the Platinum dvd or laserdisc.
Note: I saw a 35mm print of the film a couple of years ago... and it didn't look great. The closest thing to it was the work-in-progress window in on the Diamond edition.
Pinocchio: I'm pretty pleased with the blu rays... they all have the same transfer.
Little Mermaid: differences are mild, but I tend to prefer the Diamond ed, not the Signature. The color palette make the most sense to me. BUT... if you want a true reproduction of the original, with no edits/changes... you need to track down the limited edition DVD, with no bonus features.
Hope this helps!
Re: What Disney Releases Look Most Like Theatrical Prints or Technicolor Prints
Sure does good looking out g Sort of seen someone else say the same here
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Re: What Disney Releases Look Most Like Theatrical Prints or Technicolor Prints
I vaguely recall complaints by animators and animation historians re Peter Pan's colour grading when it came out on Platinum DVD. As far as I know the Blu-ray utilises the same master, so there aren't major differences there.Marce82 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:39 pmPeter Fan: I think the color palette has remained the same since the Platinum edition (so plat, diamond, signature, all good). And I don't hear many complaints about this release (regarding color), they all make sense to me. I think the colors of the Special Edition dvd are way off.
I am afraid I cannot remember who the individuals raising the alarm were. It has simply been too long. If I were to hazard a guess, maybe the late Michael Sporn or Thad Komorowski, but I am not sure.
As for me, I recall enjoying Peter Pan's digital presentation, but of course I have little knowledge of traditional film processes, so my enjoyment may be chalked up to "ignorance."
For the record, even Peter Pan is "ruined" in its current iteration, I will never believe the digital film restorationists were on some perverse mission to "destroy" the film, as some of the more histrionic detractors seem to suggest. I would consider it a well-intentioned but ultimately misguided treatment or mistake, due either to ignorance or carelessness, but not malice. (I mean ... come on guys.)
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I must confess I know absolutely nothing about this topic. Y’all seem so expert at this. But PLEASE just assure me the original versions of these classic, historic treasures are kept protected SOMEWHERE!
Please Please Please!
Just in case someone someday with some common sense wants to release them again either theatrically or for home presentation.
Please Please Please!
Just in case someone someday with some common sense wants to release them again either theatrically or for home presentation.
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Well, I am pretty sure Disney keeps the original film prints (that all copies were made from) in it's vaults... which are probably climate controlled, fireproof, waterproof and... laserproof?? I don't know. I am sure they are heavily guarded.
I also know a lot of these films are part of the library of congress, in 35mm format. Now... is that just a copy of the original print, or is it a print made from a restoration? Who knows. Call the library of congress!
As far as Peter Pan... when the Platinum edition was released, people still mostly used tube TVs, which had a very different way to project color. By the time the blu ray came out, most had switched to HD tvs. So hard to compare that!
I haven't noticed severe changes... but most transfers will have some flaw here and there, maybe the occasional shot. The only ones truly botched in quality -not color specifically- were Cinderella and TSITS (the latter one got fixed on Disney+, but the blu ray is disgraceful). I was mainly talking about color palettes. I try to look at it from a logical standpoint: do the skintones look like skin? Do apples look red or orange? Does the contrast make it seem like things have shadow/depth?
Since most of us were not alive in the 1950s, hard to tell what these films actually looked like on the screen back then. Best we can do is figure out the artists' original intent... and logic in color.
I also know a lot of these films are part of the library of congress, in 35mm format. Now... is that just a copy of the original print, or is it a print made from a restoration? Who knows. Call the library of congress!
As far as Peter Pan... when the Platinum edition was released, people still mostly used tube TVs, which had a very different way to project color. By the time the blu ray came out, most had switched to HD tvs. So hard to compare that!
I haven't noticed severe changes... but most transfers will have some flaw here and there, maybe the occasional shot. The only ones truly botched in quality -not color specifically- were Cinderella and TSITS (the latter one got fixed on Disney+, but the blu ray is disgraceful). I was mainly talking about color palettes. I try to look at it from a logical standpoint: do the skintones look like skin? Do apples look red or orange? Does the contrast make it seem like things have shadow/depth?
Since most of us were not alive in the 1950s, hard to tell what these films actually looked like on the screen back then. Best we can do is figure out the artists' original intent... and logic in color.
Re: What Disney Releases Look Most Like Theatrical Prints or Technicolor Prints
TruMarce82 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:21 pm Well, I am pretty sure Disney keeps the original film prints (that all copies were made from) in it's vaults... which are probably climate controlled, fireproof, waterproof and... laserproof?? I don't know. I am sure they are heavily guarded.
I also know a lot of these films are part of the library of congress, in 35mm format. Now... is that just a copy of the original print, or is it a print made from a restoration? Who knows. Call the library of congress!
As far as Peter Pan... when the Platinum edition was released, people still mostly used tube TVs, which had a very different way to project color. By the time the blu ray came out, most had switched to HD tvs. So hard to compare that!
I haven't noticed severe changes... but most transfers will have some flaw here and there, maybe the occasional shot. The only ones truly botched in quality -not color specifically- were Cinderella and TSITS (the latter one got fixed on Disney+, but the blu ray is disgraceful). I was mainly talking about color palettes. I try to look at it from a logical standpoint: do the skintones look like skin? Do apples look red or orange? Does the contrast make it seem like things have shadow/depth?
Since most of us were not alive in the 1950s, hard to tell what these films actually looked like on the screen back then. Best we can do is figure out the artists' original intent... and logic in color.