Wish

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Personally, I'm with the ones who are against interconnecting different Disney films and characters, so I hope it's no true.

Something like that would feel like a fanfic in my opinion. Disney Animation should be above that, but these days they aren't unfortunately.

They should be what they choose to be, not what people want them to be.

[PatrickvD]

Something like that would feel like a fanfic in my opinion. Disney Animation should be above that, but these days they aren't unfortunately.

They should be what they choose to be, not what people want them to be.

Yeah I mean, sure. Just don’t expect it to be good though.

None of these movies have stakes or something or someone to root for. I don’t even remember the last time I felt any emotion watching a WDAS film. They’re all so passable.

It’s not surprising that Universal and other studios are owning Disney at the box office. When are we going to call this another dark age? I don’t sense any revival anymore to be honest.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

They should be what they choose to be, not what people want them to be.

Yeah I mean, sure. Just don’t expect it to be good though.

None of these movies have stakes or something or someone to root for. I don’t even remember the last time I felt any emotion watching a WDAS film. They’re all so passable.

It’s not surprising that Universal and other studios are owning Disney at the box office. When are we going to call this another dark age? I don’t sense any revival anymore to be honest.

We'll see about that.

[Mooky]

If *the* wishing star is the connecting tissue for this supposed multiverse, how would they even go about it? There are only two movies in the canon that feature the (wishing) star, three if you count Peter Pan.

[D82]

Yes, only Pinocchio and The Princess and the Frog feature a wishing star. I guess they could also use Peter Pan, as you said, or The Rescuers, though nobody actually wishes upon the star in those two films. And the stars are different things in each movie: in Pinocchio, for example, it's the Blue Fairy and in Peter Pan it's Neverland, so I don't know how they would connect these worlds.

If it's only little Easter eggs, though, maybe they'll include references to all the films where stars play some kind of role in the story. Then, apart from the ones I mentioned, they could also feature Fantasia (The Sorcerer's Apprentice), The Lion King, Hercules or Moana.

[Sotiris]

Yes, only Pinocchio and The Princess and the Frog feature a wishing star. I guess they could also use Peter Pan, as you said, or The Rescuers, though nobody actually wishes upon the star in those two films. And the stars are different things in each movie: in Pinocchio, for example, it's the Blue Fairy and in Peter Pan it's Neverland, so I don't know how they would connect these worlds.

And in The Princess and the Frog, the star was Evangeline. I know that was only what Ray believed, but after his death he himself became a star, so who knows? Maybe Evangeline really used to be a firefly too. Also, technically there was wishing on a shooting star in Lilo & Stitch, even though that wasn't a star but Stitch's spaceship crash landing. In any case, it would have been so much simpler and much less tacky instead of the wishing star in Disney movies, the film was about the custom of people making a wish on a star and how it came to be.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Don’t forget Winnie the Pooh when he wished upon a star to see Christopher Robin again in “Pooh’s Grand Adventure: The Search For Christopher Robin” back in 1997 (happy 25th, BTW).

[Warm Regards]

In Lion King they talk about the stars being ancestors (and fireflies, in one scene.)

Hmmm ... So in Wish, is the star gonna be Asha's passed away grandmother?

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Just saw Ariana DeBose of Disney’s Wish on the Disney Parks Magical Christmas Day Parade on ABC wish everyone a merry Christmas. So, it looks like Disney is making sure they market Wish well.

[D82]

And in The Princess and the Frog, the star was Evangeline. I know that was only what Ray believed, but after his death he himself became a star, so who knows? Maybe Evangeline really used to be a firefly too.

I didn't mention that because it's not made totally clear in the film whether the star is actually Evangeline or not, but yes, it could be her.

Also, technically there was wishing on a shooting star in Lilo & Stitch, even though that wasn't a star but Stitch's spaceship crash landing.

That's true; although making a wish when you see a shooting star is something much more common and not that exclusive of Disney films, right?

In any case, it would have been so much simpler and much less tacky instead of the wishing star in Disney movies, the film was about the custom of people making a wish on a star and how it came to be.

I totally agree.

Don’t forget Winnie the Pooh when he wished upon a star to see Christopher Robin again in “Pooh’s Grand Adventure: The Search For Christopher Robin” back in 1997 (happy 25th, BTW).

I had forgotten about that, but I don't think they'll include references to the DTV sequels; just the official classics.

In Lion King they talk about the stars being ancestors (and fireflies, in one scene.)

Hmmm ... So in Wish, is the star gonna be Asha's passed away grandmother?

The other day when I was searching for stars in Disney films to see if I had forgotten some examples, I saw a theory about The Lion King and The Princess and the Frog being part of the same universe because in both there are characters who supposedly become stars after they die. Who knows, perhaps that's the way they use to connect these films.

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm glad Star doesn't speak. That was probably the weakest idea to me to begin with, I thought he would be given some deep male smartalek type of voice. Thankfully not. I prefer pantomime with sidekicks in general, tbh. I would love if they tied into TP&TF with Ray becoming a star--maybe this star is Evangeline. I'd adore that!!

So excited for a villain, too! I got one of those Disney Villains puzzle packs for Christmas, and I like seeing new characters like Dr. Facilier and Mother Gothel mixed in with the characters I grew up with. They deserve a new addition after so long.

So, it looks like Disney is making sure they market Wish well.

This is what I expected. Conversely, they didn't market Strange World at all, they took as little risk with it as possible. I knew they would go all out with Wish in comparison with it being tied to the 100th anniversary. And that was before Iger returned and there became more riding on its success.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

I'm glad Star doesn't speak. That was probably the weakest idea to me to begin with, I thought he would be given some deep male smartalek type of voice. Thankfully not. I prefer pantomime with sidekicks in general, tbh. I would love if they tied into TP&TF with Ray becoming a star--maybe this star is Evangeline. I'd adore that!!

So excited for a villain, too! I got one of those Disney Villains puzzle packs for Christmas, and I like seeing new characters like Dr. Facilier and Mother Gothel mixed in with the characters I grew up with. They deserve a new addition after so long.

So, it looks like Disney is making sure they market Wish well.

This is what I expected. Conversely, they didn't market Strange World at all, they took as little risk with it as possible. I knew they would go all out with Wish in comparison with it being tied to the 100th anniversary. And that was before Iger returned and there became more riding on its success.

Well, Star is allegedly supposed to be non-binary.

[Farerb]

Well, Star is allegedly supposed to be non-binary.

But how will we know the Star is non-binary if they don't talk?
With 22 we had them say they're neither male nor female, just use the voice of a middle aged woman just to annoy people.
To me it feels like it's just going to be for marketing but the movie won't actually do anything, and I mean the Star being non-binary that doesn't even talk doesn't really feel like a genuine representation.

[Disney's Divinity]

I guess they're non-binary in the sense that they are androgynous rather than given a clear gender in their design.

Some might say you couldn't make a star look gendered anyway, but, well, anything can be gendered in their design if they try. Look at the male and female volcanoes in that PIXAR short before Inside Out, for example. Making them gender-less is a design choice as much as those are.

[Sotiris]

When it comes to design, genderless or neutral characters tend to look male. I wouldn't be surprised if people end up perceiving the star as a male character.

[Sotiris]

Walt Disney Animation Studios’ upcoming animated feature film Wish premieres November 22, exclusively in theaters. The epic animated musical, directed by Chris Buck and Fawn Veerasunthorn, is inspired by the studios’ legacy of films. The film is set in Rosas, the kingdom of wishes where wishes can literally come true. Asha (voiced by Ariana DeBose) is a 17-year-old optimist with a sharp wit who cares endlessly about her community. In a moment of desperation, Asha makes an impassioned plea to the stars, which is answered by a cosmic force, a little ball of boundless energy called Star. Together, they face the most formidable of foes to save her community and prove that when the will of one courageous human connects with the magic of the stars, wondrous things can happen. Wish also includes Disney Animation’s good-luck-charm Alan Tudyk as the voice of a goat named Valentino, and showstopping original songs penned by Julia Michaels.

Source: https://d23.com/every-disney-moment-wer ... o-in-2023/

On November 22, Walt Disney Animation Studios will debut Wish, an original animated story with all-new characters, plus original music by Julia Michaels. From the teams that created the Frozen films, Wish is inspired by the Studios’ legacy of storytelling and explores how the star that so many Disney characters wished upon came to be.

Source: https://d23.com/disney-to-celebrate-100 ... y-in-2023/

2023 is Walt Disney Studios’ 100th year. And of course Walt Disney Animation Studios, the crown jewel of its entire sprawling media empire, is going to do something to celebrate. “Wish” is that celebration, the origin story of the wishing star, which has been seen in countless Disney animated projects. So far the only description of the film came courtesy of 2022’s D23 Expo, where directors Chris Buck and Fawn Veerasunthorn were on hand to discuss the upcoming project alongside co-writer (and head of WDAS) Jennifer Lee. Ariana DeBose stars as a 17-year-old girl in the Kingdom of Wishes who makes a plea to the heavens and is saddled with the wishing star, who in the film is a fully anthropomorphic (but non-verbal) character. Together they go on a quest to stop a growing evil in the kingdom. Julia Michael is writing the songs for the new musical and at D23 DeBose performed one of them (“More for Us”) that brought the house down. Perhaps most excitingly is the fact that the film will utilize a unique visual aesthetic, combining 3D computer animation with watercolor-ish brushstrokes. Considering they’ve been attempting to create a feature-length film in this style since “Tangled,” there must have been some considerable breakthroughs. In other words: their wish was granted.

Source: https://www.thewrap.com/most-anticipate ... s-of-2023/

For the 100th year of Disney, Walt Disney Animation Studios wanted to do something special. That’s why they’re releasing “Wish,” a classical fairy tale, this year. Centered around the origins of the wishing star (which we have seen countless Disney protagonists gaze upon in earlier animated movies) and employing a painterly animation style that still is very much 3D, “Wish” looks to be the next Disney animated classic. Directed by Chris Buck (the “Frozen” films) and Fawn Veerasunthorn, the movie stars recent Oscar winner Ariana DeBose as our hero Asha and Alan Tudyk as the voice of an adorable goat (the wishing star is actually anthropomorphized but doesn’t speak), with songs by Julia Michaels and a script co-written by “Frozen” filmmaker and WDAS chief creative officer Jennifer Lee.

Source: https://www.thewrap.com/new-animated-mo ... ticipated/

And just as “The Mitchells vs. the Machines” took its cues from “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse,” so have other movies outside of the Sony sphere – things like DreamWorks’ “The Bad Guys” and “Puss in Boots: The Last Wish” feature an exaggerated art style and animation that plays with frame rates and staging, and Disney’s upcoming “Wish” applies a similar, hand-painted approach to the visuals.

Source: https://www.thewrap.com/sony-pictures-a ... der-verse/

[Farerb]

If she's 17 years old, that means she won't have a love interest.

[DisneyFan09]

Well, it`s nice to get a little more information with the new synopsis, despite how it`s still rather sparse. But at least we know that the film is going to be epic and that Asha is a optimist with a sharp wit. And it`s remarkable how the new synopsis only credits Alan Tudyk and actually labels him as Disney`s good-luck-charm . But since it`s been mentioned to be inspired by by the studios’ legacy of films, it makes me wonder if this will be a crossover universe, after all.

Besides, people tend to call Disney female characters princesses regardless if they are royalty in their respective films or not.

True. People have a tendency to call a Disney heroine a Princess for the archetype, despite how they`re not actually Princesses. It`s a shallow statement, but it`s a common one. Even in the Renaissance the non-Royal were referred as Princesses to a degree.

If she's 17 years old, that means she won't have a love interest.

Really? Remember that Princesses who were younger than 17 (Snow White, Aurora and Ariel) had love interests.

[Sotiris]

If she's 17 years old, that means she won't have a love interest.

Did anyone expect otherwise? Even if she were an adult she still wouldn't get a male love interest because that's not considered progressive or feminist anymore. The same goes for a lead having dreams or goals that are not centered around her family and/or community.

[Farerb]

Really? Remember that Princesses who were younger than 17 (Snow White, Aurora and Ariel) had love interests.

That was then. Now we're in a time where Disney won't allow an underage girl to be in a relationship in order not to risk criticism of teaching girls to be obsessed with romance at a young age.