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Ohhhh, I would have had a question for the person who attended the screening, how was the final battle with Ursula? Did she become a giant? Was it as intense as the animation? I'm super excited to see the Part of Your World reprise, too. That's one of the most beautiful and iconic moments in the animation.
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SPOILERS taken from the last page (don't read if you're not interested)
Does Eric still have Max?
Of course he does!
Whoever this person is is annoying. "Of course," like they didn't cut Flotsam and Jetsam. Max would've been a much easier cut than they are.
Are you able to tell us Queen Selina’s importance to the story? Or will that give too much away?
That you will have to see for yourself since there’s a lot of family drama with Eric and the royals in this adaption. Gives his family more depth and explains the feud between the merfolk and humans but Noma is a fantastic actress and her chemistry with Halle was heartwarming, she almost becomes a second mother to her when she becomes human
Oh, God... Some of what they're saying sounds good (the Giant Ursula and Vanessa stuff in particular, but also the shipwreck where Ariel saves Eric), some of it sounds bad but I already knew about (the sisters being 7 different races or whatever the hell), but this and the Eric flashback are probably the things that sound the worst. There doesn't need to be a "feud," the humans don't even know they exist beyond myth and sailor's tales and the merfolk hate them because they eat fish--simple.

I knew and expected (and think are appropriate) a lot of other things as far as Ursula not being impaled, Ariel being the one who defeats her, and Ariel expressing regret about her actions. That sounds fine, although the last point about her talking probably happens after Ursula's defeat. Hopefully they didn't make the ending into too much talking, but keep it short and to the point.
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All of this sounds rather promising, I won’t lie. No major deviations, but added depth. The sisters are my biggest worry, but the reactions I’ve read here and elsewhere seemed like they enjoyed them, so hopefully they add something meaningful. Also incredibly glad to hear McCarthy is great as Ursula. I always thought she would be as long as they directed her correctly, and it sounds like they did. Still not holding my breath to love this, but it definitely sounds like it will be far better than any of the other remakes in my opinion.
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No major deviations, but added depth
IDK, for me the above is usually my benchmark in what little I seek the remakes to be (the reason I liked TJB, Aladdin, TLK, B&tB, and Pinocchio and I'm looking forward to Hercules/Hunchback so far) and this one already buzzed out of that zone for me a long time ago with Ariel having superpowers, FastFins, F&J, the sisters representing different oceans, etc. For me personally, I'm just hoping it could at least hit Maleficent-level, as far as being entertaining to some degree despite a lot of bad things around the edges of the movie.

So far this sounds like it might be able to hit that mark at least--God bless McCarthy if she somehow managed to save this thing. :lol: Even as a fan of her, I hadn't really been expecting her to be "great" in the role just serviceable as far as the best case scenario. If she ends up better than I expected, that's quite the feat on her part and would make me like her even more.
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Here's same more info about Ariel's outfits in the movie, apparently from the same person who shared the other stuff I posted, though I couldn't find the original post:

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carolinakid wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:32 pm He/she sounds like a real fangirl. I’m skeptical...
Yeah, it's better to take all this info with a grain of salt.
Thumper_93 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:52 pm I saw this photo yesterday. Ariel also appears in the photo and all her body is made of plastic, she looks really cheap. I also read that some users are getting advertisements form Mattel lawyers because they are posting leaks of their dolls.
Here's a TikTok video where the full photo appears. I saw it too, but the fact it's such a blurry image made me suspect it could be fake. However, if it's true Mattel is doing that, it must mean it's legit. Otherwise, they wouldn't care.
Disney's Divinity wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:56 pm Whoever this person is is annoying. "Of course," like they didn't cut Flotsam and Jetsam. Max would've been a much easier cut than they are.
The Instagram account who shared the info about the Fast Fins and all that from the prequel novelization, also posted a while ago that Flotsam and Jetsam will be in the movie after all, but I don't know where they got that info from, so it's not confirmed yet. Another thing they said is that Ariel's sisters will be actively looking for her when she becomes human.
Disney's Divinity wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:56 pm There doesn't need to be a "feud," the humans don't even know they exist beyond myth and sailor's tales and the merfolk hate them because they eat fish--simple.
I agree about that.
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*spoilers*
D82 wrote: The Instagram account who shared the info about the Fast Fins and all that from the prequel novelization, also posted a while ago that Flotsam and Jetsam will be in the movie after all, but I don't know where they got that info from, so it's not confirmed yet. Another thing they said is that Ariel's sisters will be actively looking for her when she becomes human.
Oh, I hope they do turn out to be in the film! Not only would their golden eyes be very alluring in live-action, I'm not sure how they would even get Ariel from point A to point B (following her grotto's destruction and going to Ursula) without them. Ursula appearing there or Ariel just thinking of it on her own...I think both of those would be weird. I suppose Ursula's disembodied voice speaking to Ariel via "magic" would be okay and suitably eerie? But then again, what would trigger Ursula turning into giant or wanting to kill Eric without Flotsam & Jetsam anyway?

I'm fine with Ariel's sisters being involved more as far as looking for her (since they play a huge part in the original tale), it's really just the powers thing and multi-race split / 7 seas / name changes I don't care for when it comes to them. I think it would be interesting if they were there during the negotiation between Ursula and Triton as an "audience" reacting to everything much the same way as Sebastian. Having the seven sisters, Sebastian and Flounder, and Eric all there would justify her becoming giant since she's out-numbered if F&J aren't there, I suppose...

I think someone had posted last page about not caring for the idea of Ariel and Vanessa fighting / pulling one another's hair, but that kind of already happens in the original film? Ariel jumps on Ursula's back to begin with and then pulls her hair to save Eric. It would be even more fitting with Vanessa where Ariel is more evenly matched physically.

About the dresses--I think a teal dress could be nice. Ariel has been pictured with a teal dress as part of the Disney Princess line before, and I've actually always found she looked kind of pretty in that color. The picture of the Ursula doll hasn't worked for me.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:01 pm *spoilers*

I'm fine with Ariel's sisters being involved more as far as looking for her (since they play a huge part in the original tale), it's really just the powers thing and multi-race split / 7 seas / name changes I don't care for when it comes to them.
Personally, I don't mind the sisters being of different ethnicities if they're consistent with the casting being "blind" and the races being independent of family relationships between characters, like it happened in Brandy's Cinderella, for instance. We know Javier Bardem is playing Triton and Noma Dumezweni as Queen Selina is probably Eric's mother, so that seems to be the case, but we'll see. But I'm not a fan of their new names and them being the rulers of the seven seas either. Regarding the powers, I don't know, it depends on how and how much they're used in the movie.
Disney's Divinity wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:01 pm About the dresses--I think a teal dress could be nice. Ariel has been pictured with a teal dress as part of the Disney Princess line before, and I've actually always found she looked kind of pretty in that color. The picture of the Ursula doll hasn't worked for me.
They usually use the colors worn by the characters in the Princess line, as it happened with Cinderella, Belle or Jasmine, so I'm not surprised Ariel will apparently wear a teal dress in the movie either. I agree about the Ursula doll. The long sleeves in particular don't make much sense to me for a character who lives underwater, though I understand them wanting to do something a little different for this version.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:56 pm(the sisters being 7 different races or whatever the hell)
:lol: You made me laugh out loud! Anyway, I LOVE all I am hearing! Ok, not all, but, I will await to see the final movie before I judge how all of it works, and, you know, if it works, you know, for this movie on its own. D82, I didn't know each sister ruled a different sea. Is that true?

Yes, thank God Flotsam and Jetsam may be in the film, and their eyes will look cool. Ursula's disembodied voice heard by Ariel would be cool, Divinity, but hopefully it's Flotsam and Jetsam that give Ariel the idea for Ursula. I also love Ariel in a teal dress, and I had heard of it before for this film, or I swear I did, and I heard it was gonna be beautiful, I think lol.

The ONLY thing that has bothered me so far is the Ursula doll leak. Hopefully that's not real or it looks better in the film!
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I really hope it's true, that Vanessa will be in this movie. But, like others have said, hair-pulling with Ariel? :roll: :| I'm not sure about that. One thing that has always bothered me in the animated movie is the final battle with Ursula, Ariel and Eric. I know Triton is a polyp at this point, but what about Ariel's sisters? Other merpeople? How did they react to Giant Ursula? :o Hopefully, they'll fix this little thing in this movie.
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Disney Duster wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 7:19 am D82, I didn't know each sister ruled a different sea. Is that true?
Yes, here's some info about it: viewtopic.php?p=757251&hilit=sisters+seven+seas#p757251

And here are more questions answered by the person who claims to have seen the film (SPOILERS). They also say Flotsam and Jetsam are in the movie, but according to them, they don't speak in this version.
Does the Prince statue appears in the movie? If it does...it is destroyed by Triton?
Yes it does and it’s heartbreaking to see 🥺 Halle nails the emotional aspect of this scene tho
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Did the underwater world look lighter/ brighter than the teaser trailer?
It’s much brighter and vibrant, especially in the opening sequence
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I saw on Insta that Alan Menken said the 4 new songs were 1) a solo for Eric, 2) a solo for ariel, 3) a scuttle/Sebastian rap, and 4) a king Triton solo. Is that right? Which was your favourite and which was your least favourite?
correct and the my fave is the Ariel solo tbh and the Eric solo is a close second
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How is the actual love story between Ariel and Eric? Is the chemistry good? Does it feel genuine?
VERY genuine. You would honestly think they were a real couple irl lol trust, it’ll make your heart flutter seeing them interact on screen
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Do they mention Ariel’s age?
Not at all but it’s assumed she’s not 16 years old anymore. They definitely made her older (we assumed maybe 18-21?) with her references to no longer being a child.
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Are flotsam and jetsum female? Or male?
oh wait you thought I was serious? 😭 they don’t even talk lmao I’ve should’ve joked it properly but don’t be disappointed because they’ll still be used by Ursula and serve their purpose
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Omg give us a hint about the actors playing flotsam and jetsum lol
Wait I was joking about that one lol they don’t talk
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Does triton have a song? Thank you for telling us
Yes, Triton does have a solo
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How is the relationship between Ariel and Triton and do we get to see her mom at all? Thank you so much!!
Starts off rough but very realistic tbh I think they hit the emotional aspect of an overbearing father and young daughter relationship very well. His character is complex but we know why and it’s performed well. Javier was actually pretty impressive and does Triton justice, I’m glad he got the voice perfectly too
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fave Ariel dress? 👀
last one, my inbox is imploding 😭 but the lovely baby blue gown (I hope this will be the dress they will first show for the Entertainment Weekly cover) Halle looked stunning in it and I can see it being used for Halloween costumes or cosplay after the movie release
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Oh, ok about the daughters ruling the other seas D82. I feel that may make Ursula's ambitions complicated, but we will see. I also think when Divinity said the picture of the Ursula doll didn't work for him, I think he meant the picture didn't show up on his internet.

I'm guessing the tumblr user who saw the test screening means Ariel's "Kiss the Girl" dress was her favorite. But the sea foam blue-white dress transformation sounds amazing and I look forward to that. Really I look forward to all the gowns, except I'm afraid we may see that horrid tiered white and pink thing from the leaked photos, and that all the dresses will actually be bad as that. I hope that fear turns out to be unfounded!
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I did a new piece of fan art based on the leaked doll design and the descriptions from the preview screening! Hope you guys like. Click the link for a high quality version.

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I wonder if flotsam and jetsam Will look like The eels that electrocuted/Caused the origin of electro in the amazing Spider-Man 2/TASM2; They stole the clock tower from that movie directly for Disenchanted, Eh? :)
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^F&J aren't electric eels, so I hope not, personally.

Anyway, F&J not speaking... So they won't be the ones who lure Ariel then. My guess is people complained about them being cut and they 3D-ed them in after-the-fact. :roll: I assume robster's picture is based off the doll from last page? I hope that's not how she really looks, almost like she's wearing a suit / coat.... :huh: :huh: :huh: If so, McCarthy could deliver a Christmas miracle and be on par with Pat Carroll, and it would still be terrible. I have no idea why she'd be wearing what almost looks like a corset except they wanted it to be like the musical. *thumbs down* At least she's purple and not green, but otherwise... :roll: Ursula is a flirtatious, voluptuous, unrestrained and unashamed type of character... I mean, I could have seen perhaps them giving her something like a bracelet or making her earrings / hair a little bigger or something like that, but to me that image doesn't feel like the character at all. The suit-like aspect, in particular. Her design was always more "dress"-like.

I'll remain skeptical of Ariel's dresses. If that doll of Ursula and the shot of the dress we saw a while back are any indication (as well as the horrid adornments to the tail), I'm expecting every bit of this to look gaudy and hideous.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:40 pm I assume robster's picture is based off the doll from last page? I hope that's not how she really looks, almost like she's wearing a suit / coat.... :huh: :huh: :huh: If so, McCarthy could deliver a Christmas miracle and be on par with Pat Carroll, and it would still be terrible. I have no idea why she'd be wearing what almost looks like a corset except they wanted it to be like the musical. *thumbs down* At least she's purple and not green, but otherwise... :roll: Ursula is a flirtatious, voluptuous, unrestrained and unashamed type of character... I mean, I could have seen perhaps them giving her something like a bracelet or making her earrings / hair a little bigger or something like that, but to me that image doesn't feel like the character at all. The suit-like aspect, in particular. Her design was always more "dress"-like.
I assume the part that looks like a corset here is because it's a toy and that section is a moveable part, so kids can twist her lower body/tentacles. The same way the Ariel doll has a division so the tail can be moved back and forth and their arms can also both bend. I'm sure the lower body is fully squid/octopus. I can see how a bolero type jacket could be more flattering to Melissa's upper arms, maybe Ursula is seen in the movie with and without the jacket. There's still so much we don't know and can only assume....
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Good point. I thought they could be taking the metaphor of her being almost like a sleazy car salesman a little too literally by making her look as if she's wearing a costume almost like a suit... :lol: As far as the corset-aspect, to me it makes her look almost the opposite of what she should. If anything, they should be adding a little to the stomach to make her look bigger because McCarthy isn't small but not she's not as big as the character at all. As simplistic as Ursula's lower black half is in the original film, it actually has a rather "courtly" feel to it at times.
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Nice drawing, robster16! You managed to make Melissa look good in that look and that wasn't an easy task!
Disney Duster wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:19 pm Oh, ok about the daughters ruling the other seas D82. I feel that may make Ursula's ambitions complicated, but we will see.
Well, I think Triton is still the ruler overall; the sisters are probably more like governors or something like that.
Disney Duster wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:19 pm I also think when Divinity said the picture of the Ursula doll didn't work for him, I think he meant the picture didn't show up on his internet.
Oh, I thought he meant he didn't like it. Here's another image. Let's see if this one works for everybody:

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Disney Duster wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:19 pm I'm guessing the tumblr user who saw the test screening means Ariel's "Kiss the Girl" dress was her favorite. But the sea foam blue-white dress transformation sounds amazing and I look forward to that. Really I look forward to all the gowns, except I'm afraid we may see that horrid tiered white and pink thing from the leaked photos, and that all the dresses will actually be bad as that. I hope that fear turns out to be unfounded!
Well, the film's costume designer is Colleen Atwood and she's normally quite good. She did the costumes for Alice in Wonderland and many other Tim Burton films; previous Rob Marshall movies like Chicago, Memoirs of a Geisha or Into the Woods; as well as Snow White and the Huntsman or Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events. So, I'm personally not worried about the costumes. I wasn't a fan of the white and pink dress either, though it looks a bit like an old kind of bathing suit to me. Could that be what it is? If that was the case, then I don't think it's that bad. Anyway, if the reports about the dresses are legit, this one doesn't replace the blue dress and she'll be wearing lots of other outfits, so there's a chance at least some of them will be good.

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Oh wow, robster16, you made that Ursula doll design look good! If that's how she looks in the movie, with every design of yours, from the jacket to the hair, then it would look awesome! That is one cool, beautiful piece of art!

Divinity, Ursula will be interacting with Flotsam and Jetsam. There's no way Disney would just CGI them into the movie and make them work just floating there. C'mon man, that wouldn't work!

Hmm...yeah, I don't know about Ariel's sisters then, D82.

And yes, Colleen Atwood is an amazing costume designer, probably my favorite, so it's amazing she could do anything bad like some of the costumes looked so far! However, in that photo you just posted of Ariel's...beach dress or bathing suit, it doesn't look as bad as I remembered. I suppose it's good for a beach dress or bathing suit, like you said.
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Is Ursula a mermaid too? Looks like that in the leaked pic.
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Disney Duster wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:36 pm And yes, Colleen Atwood is an amazing costume designer, probably my favorite, so it's amazing she could do anything bad like some of the costumes looked so far! However, in that photo you just posted of Ariel's...beach dress or bathing suit, it doesn't look as bad as I remembered. I suppose it's good for a beach dress or bathing suit, like you said.
Yes, it could also be a beach dress. For some reason, I also remember it looking worse.
Vlad Sicoe wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:05 am Is Ursula a mermaid too? Looks like that in the leaked pic.
No, it's just that there's something in front of her in the photo that hides the tentacles on the right. That, and also the fact that they're quite short compared to the animated Ursula's tentacles.
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