Strange World

[D82]

Here's also a new poster:


Source: https://twitter.com/strangeworld/status ... TY8dIrAAAA

On social media all Disney profiles are posting this combined with the "virus" emoji. The Clades have invaded an organism/human/animal/etc and are thur treated as a hostile virus which the organism is attacking.

Oh, that's most likely what's happening. That's actually clever, but I wish the twist wasn't so evident. And why do they give even more clues by using the virus emoji?

I liked this trailer more than the teaser, though. I like that there seems to be real danger in that world and it looks like the dynamic between the three Clades is going to be interesting. There were some funny moments too, like the autograph joke or the way Ethan meets Splat, but I still have a problem with the character designs.

A few times the words and the lipsynch didn't match, so I wonder what's going on.

I think that's just because they use lines of dialogue that don't belong to the images in order to summarize the plot better or make certain scenes shorter, for example.

[singerguy04]

I am pleasantly surprised by that new trailer! I'm hoping for the sake of this film it helps raise some buzz.

Even more evidence that the big reveal is that they are inside an organism. On social media all Disney profiles are posting this combined with the "virus" emoji. The Clades have invaded an organism/human/animal/etc and are thur treated as a hostile virus which the organism is attacking. There are now references to red blood cells, oxygen, white blood cells, neurons, stomach acid, etc, etc, etc.... It's very "Fantastic Voyage" meets "Once Upon a Time... Life"...

I also really dig the idea that they might be inside of another living organism instead of just in another world. When you first suggested it, I was thinking more Osmosis Jones or the Body Wars ride that used to me in Epcot, but it's grown on me. I think it could be really cool if it all began as a expedition gone wrong that stranded their ancestors inside of someone's/something's body. Then this story takes place a few generations later, but Jaeger finds the truth and it's why he went missing. The twist is the discovery that their world is tiny and they can escape back to our "world".

[D82]

Head of Animation Justin Sklar reveals some of the inspirations for the character designs in a new article:

"I think [director Don Hall and co-director and writer Qui Nguyen] had a very specific vision about how we're going to approach the pulp thing and that became something for Jin Kim, who was drawing the characters, because it became this kind of French comic thing — there's a little bit of Miyazaki in there and it wasn't really conceived as a late '40s, early '50s Disney thing."

Source: https://www.slashfilm.com/1017735/stran ... exclusive/


There's also new concept art in this other article: https://geekvibesnation.com/diving-deep ... he-scenes/

I think it could be really cool if it all began as a expedition gone wrong that stranded their ancestors inside of someone's/something's body. Then this story takes place a few generations later, but Jaeger finds the truth and it's why he went missing. The twist is the discovery that their world is tiny and they can escape back to our "world".

It'll be interesting to see how the movie ends. I also thought they would return to our world, but now I'm not so sure. I have a feeling they might decide to stay on that planet. After all, Searcher has his plantations there and they're a big community. If they returned to our world, they would have to start their lives from scratch.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

Trailer:
https://youtu.be/bKh2G73gCCs

This is the trailer I got to see at D23, which I’m glad they finally released online as it’s a better trailer than the teaser and I think it will get more people hyped for the movie.

Also, I know people are mixed on the character designs and faces but I think they look different and unique and in a good way, which a friend of mine, Twitter user @RWinger24 (The RW24 Show) agrees with thinking it’s Disney breaking free of John Lassetter’s same Disney face design syndrome.

[D82]

This is the trailer I got to see at D23, which I’m glad they finally released online as it’s a better trailer than the teaser and I think it will get more people hyped for the movie.

Thanks for confirming it's the same trailer.

Also, I know people are mixed on the character designs and faces but I think they look different and unique and in a good way, which a friend of mine, Twitter user @RWinger24 (The RW24 Show) agrees with thinking it’s Disney breaking free of John Lassetter’s same Disney face design syndrome.

This reminds me I think I read Strange World is the first movie greenlit by Jennifer Lee and therefore the first she has supervised from the beginning. Does anybody know if that's true?

[Disney's Divinity]

I haven't watched the trailer yet, but that poster is UUU-GLY.

[D23ExpoVisitor25]

This is the trailer I got to see at D23, which I’m glad they finally released online as it’s a better trailer than the teaser and I think it will get more people hyped for the movie.

Thanks for confirming it's the same trailer.

Also, I know people are mixed on the character designs and faces but I think they look different and unique and in a good way, which a friend of mine, Twitter user @RWinger24 (The RW24 Show) agrees with thinking it’s Disney breaking free of John Lassetter’s same Disney face design syndrome.

This reminds me I think I read Strange World is the first movie greenlit by Jennifer Lee and therefore the first she has supervised from the beginning. Does anybody know if that's true?

I don't know if that's true. Maybe it is, but I do know Qui Nguyen worked on Strange World, prior to having re-write Raya and the Last Dragon.

[Farerb]

It's interesting to note that they mentioned Big Hero 6 and Encanto in the trailer, I think it's the first time they didn't mention Frozen, isn't it?
I get why they mentioned Big Hero 6, but I also took note that they didn't mention Raya and the Last Dragon, which was not only directed by Don Hall, but also written by Qui Nguyen, I guess perhaps it was because it wasn't as successful as Big Hero 6 and didn't have any impact.

[blackcauldron85]

^ Maybe they figured BH6 would (stereotypically) get more guys interested than Raya?

[Disney's Divinity]

I agree, this is being marketed as a "boy's film," they were going to advertise either Wreck-It Ralph or Big Hero 6--the last "boy's films" they made. And then tag on Encanto because it was their most recent success; much like with The Lion King, they can't coast on Frozen forever.

[Sotiris]

Here's also a new poster:


Source: https://twitter.com/strangeworld/status ... 4911404032

The composition of the poster and the shading of the characters remind me of posters for The Road to El Dorado and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas.

I liked this trailer more than the teaser, though. I like that there seems to be real danger in that world and it looks like the dynamic between the three Clades is going to be interesting.

Sure, the trailer is better than the teaser, but that's not saying much. I still found it boring and predictable. The dynamic between the three generations of Clades feels very safe and formulaic. Searcher will learn to be less protective of his son and let him pursue his own interests and he and his dad will learn to appreciate each other and the different set of skills and worldview they each bring to the table, and they will all become closer by the end. I've already seen this movie, and I didn't like it. I think I'll just stick to the superior films this movie is trying to emulate.

There were some funny moments too, like the autograph joke or the way Ethan meets Splat, but I still have a problem with the character designs.

The attempts at humor did not appeal to me and the character designs look even worse in motion, particularly in Callisto's case. They gave her a long and square jaw that doesn't complement the rest of her features and makes her look off-putting. I think they were trying to make her look more masculine. You'd think she'd look more like her voice actress like it usually happens in animation, but unfortunately that's not the case here.

[Farerb]

Sure, the trailer is better than the teaser, but that's not saying much. I still found it boring and predictable. The dynamic between the three generations of Clades feels very safe and formulaic. Searcher will learn to be less protective of his son and let him pursue his own interests and he and his dad will learn to appreciate each other and the different set of skills and worldview they each bring to the table, and they will all become closer by the end. I've already seen this movie, and I didn't like it. I think I'll just stick to the superior films this movie is trying to emulate.

It's going to be about generational trauma again.

[Disney's Divinity]

It is generational issues, but I wouldn't call it "trauma" as Encanto. With Encanto, Alma's husband was killed by, I don't know, civil war, hatred, they leave it vague for any interpretation. Whereas this is more about the difficult father-son relationships between the grandfather and father, and the father and son. That would be like saying The Little Mermaid is about generational trauma for centering on a father-daughter's tempestuous relationship. Parent-child conflicts are the bread and butter of WDAS films.

Personally, I liked the designs a little better after watching the trailer last night. I thought the characters would move much more cartoony, but they have more gravity than I expected from those goofy designs. Still, I'd be surprised if this was successful. It looks too much in the vein of Atlantis and TP, and those films both bombed. At least I did like those two movies on a personal level, so hopefully I will here regardless of its success or failure. Jim Hawkins is one of my favorite Disney protagonists; the son sort of reminds me of him to a degree right now.

@Sotiris: You comparing posters made me think that it reminds me of the end of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets with all the characters holding on to the phoenix.

[DisneyEra]

Article by Forbes: Strange World must succeed where Atlantis failed.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmende ... 51697d6bc1

It also mentions the low Box Office intakes of Raya & Encanto. Raya being outgrossed by the Paw Patrol Movie "reminds me of the Black Cauldron being outgrossed by the Care Bears Movie in '85". And Encanto being on par with Dreamworks "The Bad Guys".

I have no idea how much Strange World take at the Box Office this Thanksgiving. And with Disenchanted being released on Disney+ the same time, it doesn't look good for Strange World. And by the time PussNBoots 2 releases by Christmas, Strange World should be on Disney+ by then.

[Farerb]

Disenchanted on the same weekend, Black Panther two weeks before, Avatar three weeks after. It's as if they purposefully tried to sabotage this film.

[Sotiris]

Disenchanted on the same weekend, Black Panther two weeks before, Avatar three weeks after. It's as if they purposefully tried to sabotage this film.

They're not trying to sabotage it. They just know they have a dud in their hands and are trying to mitigate its probable failure by sandwiching it between guaranteed hits.

[DisneyEra]

What I don't understand is why Disney didn't release this in early October? The only features coming out next month is another Halloween film & Black Adam. There're no animated features in Theaters right now other than the summer hold over DC Super Pets. WDAS is just stubborn to always releasing their features during Thanksgiving! Better yet, they could have released Strange World on September 30. A whole month til Black Panther 2 comes out. If this movie bombs, it's on the Studio.

[singerguy04]

I don't think we'll ever be able to really tell how well Raya and Encanto did based on box office results due to the pandemic. It's not really fair to compare them to anything when something like that 100% had a huge compact on attendance. On top of that Disney hasn't really released much (if any) info on how streaming went, so Box Office is not going to be a viable way to compare their success. On think on all accounts in obvious that Encanto was a hit though, and that Raya did not meet expectations solely based on word of mouth and merch representation. Really, there isn't going to be a way to compare this film to any other for performance purposes. I'd say based on theming alone, you can say it's like Atlantis or Treasure Planet, but both of those films are 20+ years older and it's a completely different market now.

I think this film has a chance for success, but given it's placement in the release schedule, the movies it's going up to bat against, and the underwhelming way Disney seems to be marketing this... I think that gives us clear indication how Disney feels the film will perform.

[DisneyFan09]

Well, after seeing the trailer, I`ll say that it`s better than the teaser. The compass scene with the picture reminded me of the similar scenes from Onward (which also has a similar characters designs). Jake Gyllenhaal`s voice is instantly recognizable. It`s remarkable that the movies that were promoted were Big Hero 6 and Encanto. It`s fine that they`re not using Frozen anymore, since Frozen is a different genre But it`s remarkable how they`re using Encanto, when a more relevant example would`ve been either Zootopia or even Wreck-it-Ralph (for having a male demographic). Otherwise, the father reminded me of the hairy dude from the Once Upon a Time... Man TV series from 1978. The "I`m a huge fan... of your dad" joke was lame and felt out of place. Otherwise, the visuals were fine, but the whole premise reminded me of an alternative version of Atlantis.

Callisto Mal looks better in that image. That's a little comforting.

Agreed, she looked way better in that picture.

Here's also a new poster:


Source: https://twitter.com/strangeworld/status ... TY8dIrAAAA

I liked that poster! I liked the poses, the colors and the overall vibe of it.

[DisneyEra]

If Raya & Encanto are gonna use the Pandemic as an excuse for their low Box Office, then we have to excuse Atlantis & Treasure Planet too. Atlantis failed because of Shrek 1 & the Live-Action Tomb Raider. Treasure Planet failed because it went heads up against the Harry Potter sequel Chamber of Secrets.
Also, 2D animation wasn't doing good back in the early 2000s. Other than Lilo & Stitch & Hayao Miyazaki films, every studio had a 2D bomb. They had no chance against Ice Age, Shrek & Pixar films.

And what about Lightyear? Did the pandemic hurt that film too? And how did Minions 2 gross over $900 million this summer? I'm tired of the 2020 features using the pandemic as an excuse for their low Box Office, but the early 2000 features, no excuses, they just were bad & killed 2D animation.