D23 Expo 2022

[D82]

New 100 Years logo:

Here's also a video. Disney has announced it'll be in front of upcoming movies from the studio.

[Avaitor]

I had a good first day at the Expo! The only panel I attended was the Legends induction, which was fun. I loved the opening Broadway melody and hearing Idina Menzel sing "When You Wish Upon a Star" during her induction was a showstopper. I was disappointed that Don Hahn didn't make it to the Expo, and I don't think I'm alone, since he had maybe the biggest applause after Chadwick. Speaking of which, that was a very emotional speech at the end with his brother, and I thought it was a perfect way to end the ceremony... until we got the surprise Encanto performance. Which was also nice!

The other big thing I had to do was meet Andreas Deja, which I'm so glad I got to do. He was very nice and had no problem with me going on about how much I admire his animation work, even though he was mainly here to promote his upcoming Jungle Book tome. He signed a poster of the book's cover, which I intend to hold onto.

Otherwise, I mostly just did a lot of walking and admiring people's cosplays. I got some swag, and bought the Aladdin Legacy Collection CD. A couple of other releases caught my eye from the Music Emporium panel, like the Adventure Through Inner Space picture disc and LPs for Encanto and WandaVision, but I have to save my money (I also don't like the idea of packaging albums in my luggage), but I left early after feeling overstimulated. I'll be back tomorrow to try to catch a couple of panels (the Muppet stuff especially appeals) and get more swag I missed out on. Who else is over here?

[Sotiris]

I got some swag, and bought the Aladdin Legacy Collection CD.

Can you post some photos? And give us the track list?

[Avaitor]

I got some swag, and bought the Aladdin Legacy Collection CD.

Can you post some photos? And give us the track list?

Here we go.



You can see
-The Jungle Book poster + Walt Disney Family Museum card Andreas signed for me,
-A WDFM catalogue and Jungle Book postcard their booth were giving out (apparently each day they'll have different postcards to hand out)
-A Spider-Man poster from Marvel (each day they'll have a different poster, as well)
-A pin reflecting the platinum Mickey made for Disney's 100th anniversary celebration (which was an exclusive gift to those who attended the Legends ceremony)
-The trading cards I received from the Music Emporium. Each one comes with a QR code that will play the song featured
-The aforementioned CD I paid for




And here's the tracklist.

[Farerb]

I know someone who knows someone who went there and managed to get me the Aladdin Legacy Collection, apparently it wasn't one of the most wanted items, now I have to wait for it to be shipped, hopefully it arrives soon.

[Sotiris]

Such a shame they only included Why Me from the deleted songs. Couldn't they have at least included Brad Kane's Proud of Your Boy? We know he recorded it. I'm glad about the alternate score tracks though.

[Farerb]

Such a shame they only included Why Me from the deleted songs. Couldn't they have at least included Brad Kane's Proud of Your Boy? We know he recorded it. I'm glad about the alternate score tracks though.

It's very lacking compared to what was released on The Music Behind the Magic. Not sure why they couldn't make 3 CDs instead of 2.

[Sotiris]

'Cause they're cheap, that's why. This is supposed to be a premium product aimed at fans and collectors. There's no excuse for half-assing it.

[blackcauldron85]

Thanks, Avaitor, for sharing! OMG, you met Andreas Deja!!!!!!!! That's wonderful!!

Very disappointed in this album...I was super excited for it but I won't bother getting it. Aladdin had a few songs that never made it, I'm sure Howard Ashman must have had demos, of him recording the songs at least, right? (Was he well enough to have done so?).

[Mooky]

I hope A Whole New World is the movie version (different intro) and not the version from the original soundtrack. All the missing deleted songs are definitely a huge bummer, especially Proud of Your Boy, but I'll still get the album for completionist sake.

[D82]

The livestream for the Disney Branded Television presentation is about to begin. Here's the link, in case anyone's interested: https://d23expo.com/live

[D82]

If anyone's interested, the Disney Parks, Experiences and Products presentation is being livestreamed right now: https://d23expo.com/live

[D82]

"Journey to the Past" from Anastasia was performed by Anneliese van der Pol at the D23 Disney Princess concert. This seems a step closer to including Anastasia in the Disney Princess franchise.

[Disney's Divinity]

I say why not? She would fit better than Merida considering she's hand-drawn, Don Bluth actually worked at Disney at one time, and because Bluth was attempting to imitate Disney at the time anyway. It would add another redhead to the line while looking different enough from Ariel and Merida. And both of Anastasia's best outfits (the cocktail dress and then the big yellow dress with the huge tiara) are different enough from anything worn by any of the Disney princesses that they wouldn't conflict either. She's another red-haired character they could racebend in a remake, too.

I think it likely will happen eventually, perhaps sooner than we think? The first sign to me was actually the Funko Pop that was released of Anastasia, Disney had to have approved that (and there may be more for the film on the way). I imagine Don Bluth would love that one of his characters might live on in such a way. The only thing is I wonder how Disney thinks they can sustain this line when it's getting so humongous. If Anastasia is pushed in along with the newest princess Asha a few years later, they'll be up to 18 now, right? (Well, Anna and Elsa aren't technically in the line, but whatever.) And you know the princess films aren't slowing down at WDAS any time soon, films like WIR and BH6 (and likely Strange World) just don't make the same kind of waves things like Encanto do.

[D82]

I think it likely will happen eventually, perhaps sooner than we think? The first sign to me was actually the Funko Pop that was released of Anastasia, Disney had to have approved that (and there may be more for the film on the way).

Disney has now started making some other Anastasia merch:

https://twitter.com/mmdisney200/status/ ... 0690695168
https://twitter.com/mmdisney200/status/ ... 7582886912

Maybe you're right she'll be added to the franchise eventually. I'm not a fan of mixing characters from different studios/divisions of the company like that, but Merida from Pixar is already in it, so I guess it wouldn't be that strange if she also was. Do you guys think live-action remakes of Anastasia or Brave could be possible in the future as well?

[Sotiris]

That's some nice merch! Are we sure it's Disney? It's unusually on-model for them.

Just because Disney is making a couple of new products for the film, doesn't mean the titular character itself is joining the Disney Princess line-up. If she's ever featured alongside the other princesses on a product, then sure. For what it's worth, I'm not in favor of adding any characters from 20th Century Studios. I don't like that Merida was added either, but at least Pixar as a studio had very close ties to Disney from its inception. There's a big difference between the two situations.

I think it's entirely plausible for Anastasia to get a live-action remake one day given its popularity and the fact 20th Century Studios doesn't have a lot of franchises they can exploit. As for Brave, the prospect of a live-action film seem slim to me. Not only is the property not very popular, but it has too much baggage with all of the controversies that surrounded the film and the character of Merida. I don't think Disney would like to open that can of worms again. It's telling that Pixar isn't doing anything with the IP either. No new short or TV show or sequel in sight. Another reason I don't believe there will ever be a live-action movie based on a Pixar property, is that Disney seems to be more protective of the Pixar brand than Disney Animation. Not to mention, Pixar fans are likely to be more hostile to such a development than Disney fans.

[Disney's Divinity]

I think the reason they don't do anything with Brave is because it would bring up the Brenda Chapman stuff again, which is a mar on their legacy. Now you bring it up--I hadn't thought of it before--I do hope there will be live-action remakes of PIXAR films eventually and they'll all get the Mulan 2020 / TLM 2023 treatment...

I still think Anastasia will end up in the line eventually at this point, to me those are signs they're moving that direction. *shrug*

[singerguy04]

I think it likely will happen eventually, perhaps sooner than we think? The first sign to me was actually the Funko Pop that was released of Anastasia, Disney had to have approved that (and there may be more for the film on the way).

Disney has now started making some other Anastasia merch:

https://twitter.com/mmdisney200/status/ ... 0690695168
https://twitter.com/mmdisney200/status/ ... 7582886912

Maybe you're right she'll be added to the franchise eventually. I'm not a fan of mixing characters from different studios/divisions of the company like that, but Merida from Pixar is already in it, so I guess it wouldn't be that strange if she also was. Do you guys think live-action remakes of Anastasia or Brave could be possible in the future as well?

wdwnt is posting about finding the mug today at Port Orleans Resort at WDW.

https://wdwnt.com/2022/12/anastasia-mug ... ney-world/

I'm assuming it'll spread across all gift shops, but I guess I'm just surprised there's going to be merch like this at all in the parks. I expected items like this to be available on shopdisney.com exclusively.

Overall I wouldn't mind seeing 20th Century characters in a place like Hollywood Studios or maybe even EPCOT (it might be kind of cute to have a Anastasia meet and greet at the France Pavilion), but Magic Kingdom wouldn't feel right. I also don't want to see her or any other Fox Character in the Princess line.

[D82]

That's some nice merch! Are we sure it's Disney? It's unusually on-model for them.

Perhaps they used artwork made for the original promotion of the film.

For what it's worth, I'm not in favor of adding any characters from 20th Century Studios. I don't like that Merida was added either, but at least Pixar as a studio had very close ties to Disney from its inception. There's a big difference between the two situations.

I guess you're right. Pixar films have always been presented as Disney/Pixar productions after all. Another reason why I wouldn't like Anastasia's inclusion is that I've always hated people mistaking the film for a Disney movie and that would only happen more if she was proclaimed a Disney princess.

I think it's entirely plausible for Anastasia to get a live-action remake one day given its popularity and the fact 20th Century Studios doesn't have a lot of franchises they can exploit.

It occurs to me now that they could also make an adaptation of the Broadway musical if they preferred, or to differentiate it from the remakes of Disney films. And don't they own the old Anastasia movie starring Ingrid Bergman now as well?

As for Brave, the prospect of a live-action film seem slim to me. Not only is the property not very popular, but it has too much baggage with all of the controversies that surrounded the film and the character of Merida. I don't think Disney would like to open that can of worms again. It's telling that Pixar isn't doing anything with the IP either. No new short or TV show or sequel in sight. Another reason I don't believe there will ever be a live-action movie based on a Pixar property, is that Disney seems to be more protective of the Pixar brand than Disney Animation. Not to mention, Pixar fans are likely to be more hostile to such a development than Disney fans.

I guess you're right. I wish they were as protective of WDAS. Perhaps the fact that there's no one in a lead position with personal ties to the studio anymore has something to do with it as well. Before, we still had Roy Disney, and Pixar has had Lasseter and now Pete Docter to look after the studio, but in the future who knows if they'll respect Pixar as much as they do now.

I think the reason they don't do anything with Brave is because it would bring up the Brenda Chapman stuff again, which is a mar on their legacy.

One solution could be to offer her to direct the remake. She has now experience directing live-action movies and that would be a way to compensate her in a way. Though, I think her live-action film was a failure both financially and critically, so I don't think the studio would actually want to hire her, and perhaps she wouldn't accept either. Anyway, I agree with you guys a remake of Brave is unlikely to be made and I prefer it that way.

Overall I wouldn't mind seeing 20th Century characters in a place like Hollywood Studios or maybe even EPCOT (it might be kind of cute to have a Anastasia meet and greet at the France Pavilion), but Magic Kingdom wouldn't feel right. I also don't want to see her or any other Fox Character in the Princess line.

Now that you mention other Fox characters, maybe there are more animated princesses from the studio. I think Disney also owns Thumbelina now, for example, right? It would be weird if they added Anastasia but not her.

[Disney's Divinity]

I don't care that Merida's film has "Disney / PIXAR" at the beginning, she isn't a "Disney" character the way I think of it. Anastasia would be a much less offensive addition than Merida, tbh. And it's not like the studio is doing anything with that film the same way, say, DTV stuff is still being made for The Swan Princess (at a different studio)--Disney may shut down FOX altogether soon. I attach the character more to Don Bluth who worked at Disney long before the character was made than FOX anyway.