Turning Red

[Rose Dome]

This looks good

Puberty -as in physical change- is new territory for Disney and Pixar

[blackcauldron85]

One more thing I forgot to mention is that the way in which sometimes only some parts of Mei's body transform reminds me of something. I think that also happens in another movie, but I can't remember which one right now. Does it feel familiar to anyone else?

Lawrence (as Naveen) in TP&tF goes through parts of his body reverting back to his original state.

[D82]

^Oh, yes, of course! That's it! I don't know how I could forget about that scene. Thanks for answering my question, blackcauldron85!

By the way, here are a couple new articles about Turning Red:

[Sotiris]

Speaking of the scroll, only women appeared on it. Maybe that means the curse only affects the women in the family. I wonder if Mei's mother also went through this or not, and if she was able to break her curse.

Either the curse skips a generation or more likely Mei's mom did go through it as well which shows that the curse isn't permanent and it can be broken.

It's interesting the film focuses on a mother-daughter relationship. It's the second Pixar film that does that after Brave. There's also a Frozen parallel in there with Mei's mom telling her to keep it in and restrain her red panda form. I think in the end, Mei's transformation will be a catalyst for finding her own path in life and not just follow in her mom's footsteps.

[D82]

Either the curse skips a generation or more likely Mei's mom did go through it as well which shows that the curse isn't permanent and it can be broken.

I also think the second option is more likely.

There's also a Frozen parallel in there with Mei's mom telling her to keep it in and restrain her red panda form.

It's true; that's a bit reminiscent of Frozen.

[rodrigo_ca]

Disney and Pixar’s #TurningRed will stream exclusively on #DisneyPlus beginning March 11.
https://twitter.com/PixarTurningRed/sta ... 8200094721

[Sotiris]

I wonder if this had to with Encanto's performance at the box office. It seems Disney wanted to test the viability of their animated films in theaters with a shortened 30-day window, but they weren't satisfied with the result. I guess Strange World will also be turned into a Disney+ exclusive or a day-and-date release when it gets closer to its scheduled release date. Only Lightyear is safe as it's an extension of a popular franchise.

[blackcauldron85]

This says it's because of the delayed recovery of family box office. I wonder if Pixar employees will continue to be sad like they were when Soul and Luca were D+ premieres.

Pixar’s ‘Turning Red’ Skipping Theaters, Now Releasing Exclusively on Disney+ March 11
https://wdwnt.com/?p=579314

[Disney's Divinity]

With them thinking of closing the studio they bought from FOX now, perhaps they may end up closing PIXAR one day, too? They don't need more than one animation company, WDAS has the longer legacy of the two, and it's not like they can't simply make 3D films that bring similar $$$ amounts in at WDAS these days. They could just keep enough people around to relegate to sequels of previously-existing PIXAR IP, call it, say, PIXARToonStudios...

[blackcauldron85]

I don't think that Disney would do that... right? I don't want them to. (And I know Disney closed Blue Sky- are you saying there's another Fox studio they're maybe closing?). (*Edit* I just read the "$7 Billion" thread so I read what was said there about this*)

I mean it's not just the medium that makes Pixar films different from WDAS films, right (I mean, they're all CG now)... This thought just makes me sad.

[carolinakid]

Maybe they realized that audience reaction to the trailers wasn’t positive. We saw the trailer during West Side Story and no one I was With was interested. They all hated the lead charater’s Mouth.

[PatrickvD]

Family films have simply not recovered and won’t until the pandemic ends. So it makes sense to skip original material like this. Encanto and Raya had the luck of being epic in scope so a natural fit for theaters as they appeal to people beyond kids and families.

There’s no opportunity for this to be a breakaway hit like in normal times.

I do not believe this is some anti Pixar policy foreshadowing the studio’s closure. Lightyear will go to cinemas and be a massive hit for sure.

[estefan]

I love watching movies in a theatre, but I think streaming has proven at this point that it's not a lesser viewing experience. Those who waited to see Encanto on Disney+ versus seeing it in theatres for its first month of release didn't like it any less than who watched it on the big screen. Having their official release be on a streaming service also didn't stop Soul, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, Wolfwalkers and Klaus from being widely respected, critically acclaimed and beloved by audiences.

I will say I do think Disney jumped the gun a little, as we don't know the effect omicron will have on the box-office yet. But I don't think of this as an insult towards Pixar and I'm certain they will see their films in theatres again. Right now, I will be curious how Sing 2 does for the rest of the month and how Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (the next family film currently scheduled for a theatrical release) does in April.

[Disney's Divinity]

I do not believe this is some anti Pixar policy foreshadowing the studio’s closure.

Oh, I don't think so either. I was just being hopeful about a future that could happen.

I didn't think they'd ever consider shutting down FOX either, especially not so soon after the buyout. And one of the main reasons they wanted to hang on to PIXAR so badly is because they made 3D films unlike WDAS and their films performed well (WDAS was in a dark age at the time). WDAS can do both now and without Lasseter specifically there to protect the studio because of his personal connection to it, I don't think it's impossible it could happen one day. If they were to choose between the two, it would be better to keep the studio with the longer legacy for sure. They could slowly absorb PIXAR films (as well as some other films like Anastasia, FernGully, etc. that they now own) into the WDAS brand over time until they are indistinguishable for most people.

[PatrickvD]

Why would anyone want PIXAR to shut down? I’ve never heard this before. So weird. You could also not watch their films if they bother you?

And the closure of BlueSky was tragic. People poured their hearts and souls into their work.

I understand that there’s a favor towards WDAS on here, but it’s to no one’s benefit if they were the only players in town. Competition ultimately helped the studio to up its game whenever they got lazy. I’d hate for them to have a monopoly on animation.

[Disney's Divinity]

Well, I think PIXAR has negatively impacted WDAS, overall, and they're only recently getting out from under their thumb to a degree with their garbage buddy roadtrip formula finally being branched out from. So, yeah, I'd be happy to see PIXAR gone from the landscape, especially with the disdain they had for WDAS all these years and the way their bro talent that leeched over into WDAS treated WDAS employees over the years. It would be pretty sweet if that ever happened.

As for the rest, Disney already does have a pretty big monopoly on animated film (well, film in general at this point, but keeping to the point) since PIXAR belongs to them. Dreamworks, Laika, and Ghibli (???) and a few others are the only major names competing with them I can think of right off. And it's not like most of Dreamworks' output is good. I admit I didn't care about Blue Sky Studios' output either, generally. My anger is more that they didn't allow their last film to be released despite being 90% done because it featured LGBT characters, not because I care about Blue Sky Studios in general. It's sad for jobs to be lost though... But hand-drawn animators had to deal with it. That's life. At least many of them might find a job at WDAS or Dreamworks afterwards, unlike most hand-drawn animators having nowhere to go.

[PatrickvD]

So, yeah, I'd be happy to see PIXAR gone from the landscape, especially with the disdain they had for WDAS all these years and the way their bro talent that leeched over into WDAS treated WDAS employees over the years. It would be pretty sweet if that ever happened.

Such vengeful anger haha. Wouldn't want to be on your bad side lol.

Anyway, Turning Red. It still doesn't really appeal to me in any way. But seeing as how it's going to Disney+ I'll give it a watch.

[carolinakid]

There’s an article accusing Disney of having a problem with diversity for releasing Soul, Luca and Turning Red directly on Disney + and giving Raya and Encanto limited theatrical runs before they hit D+.

They say Lightyear will get a proper theatrical release.

I think the article’s bullshit.

[Sotiris]

It is bullshit. When some people don't like something, they try to find a social justice reason to attack it regardless if it makes any sense or not. Only then they feel their criticism is valid and meaningful.

[Farerb]

Why Does Disney Keep Sending Pixar Movies Straight to Streaming?

Box office experts say Disney isn’t continuously denying Pixar films a proper theatrical release to be punitive. They believe it’s because the animation empire has an enviable streak of critical and commercial triumphs, including the likes of “Toy Story,” “Finding Nemo” “Ratatouille,” “Up” and “Coco.” Box office revenues matter, but Disney is equally concerned with sustaining and growing the number of people who pay to use Disney Plus. That’s not to say Disney’s other movies aren’t helpful in bringing eyeballs, and credit cards, to the streaming service.

But Disney sees value in Pixar for its generation-spanning appeal. It’s not only for parents with kids; there’s a fanbase of young adults who were raised on the adventures of Woody, Buzz Lightyear, Nemo and Dory. Disney doesn’t divulge streaming data on individual titles, but the studio has experimented enough between exclusive theatrical releases, hybrid rollouts, and Disney Plus-only debuts to figure out how to maximize revenue while amplifying its subscriber base. To analysts, that means streaming-exclusive Pixar titles must be particularly resistant to churn, a term referring to the percentage of service subscribers who cancel their monthly memberships, in addition to lifting subscriber numbers.

“It has nothing to do with quality. It’s about making a bold play with their best chess piece,” says Jeff Bock, a media analyst with Exhibitor Relations. “The fact they’ve done it with three movies in a row leads me to believe it’s really helping.”

https://variety.com/2022/film/box-offic ... 235149836/