Snow White (Live-Action)

[Disney Duster]

I love the idea of Gal as the Queen (will they keep her name Grimhilde?)! I know she is prettier than Rachel, but maybe Rachel is fairer on the inside!

[Vlad]

I can't wait to see the costumes. I'm also looking forward to seeing West Side Story, to hear Rachel singing.

[Disney Duster]

I can't wait for the costumes, either. And the sets and the special effects. I wonder who will do the costumes.

[Sotiris]

They're turning The Prince into Flynn Rider.

Today The DisInsider can exclusively confirm that two-time Academy Award-nominee Greta Gerwig has joined the production as its writer. In fact, it seems as if Gerwig isn’t just attached and in the process of writing the film, but rather she’s actually already written the most recent draft. We say that with the utmost confidence as the same source that indicated Gerwig’s involvement also confirmed that production will begin early next year! More specifically, musical rehearsals will begin in January, while the film is expected to shoot in March. In other words, with such little time before the film goes before cameras, there has to be some script the filmmakers are working with.

In addition to learning of Gerwig’s involvement with what looks to be Disney’s next live-action reboot, we’ve also obtained two character breakdowns for the film: one for a 9-year-old Snow White and one for her eventual love interest. For the younger version of Snow White, the filmmakers are looking for a young Latina actress to match the previously announced star Rachel Zegler. As expected, she will need to know how to dance and sing.

For the princess’ love interest, on the other hand, the breakdown calls for a young man with “plenty of swagger and a twinkle in his eye.” Unlike the original animated film however, this character isn’t referred to as Prince Charming. Instead, he’s simply named Jonathan and may not even be a prince at all. The fact that the rest of his breakdown suggests that he resorts “to Robin Hood-like thievery to provide for him and his friends,” hints that this may be an original character altogether made to deviate from the original source material and modernize it a bit.

Source: https://thedisinsider.com/2021/11/16/ex ... as-writer/

[Disney's Divinity]

It's funny because the character isn't called "Prince Charming," although I know the princes from fairy tales are all referred to as prince charmings when the media talks about the characters since they're often nameless. Still, the nitpicky party of me is what propels me to say that the character in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is "The Prince" whereas "Prince Charming" is the prince from Cinderella. The Prince is my favorite of the Walt-era princes. I love the character's design. It's only a shame he couldn't be used more in the film, but I know they were having trouble animating him.

[Disney Duster]

And the hopes of a faithful Snow White went even further out the window.

[Vlad]

I wonder if they will make it as scary and sinister as the animated masterpiece, and keep the scene where Snow White runs through the dark woods (my favorite scene in the movie, I think it's brilliant). The Queen has been the only Disney Villain that has ever scared me, and her transformation scene is one of the scariest in any Disney movie.

They're turning The Prince into Flynn Rider.

Today The DisInsider can exclusively confirm that two-time Academy Award-nominee Greta Gerwig has joined the production as its writer. In fact, it seems as if Gerwig isn’t just attached and in the process of writing the film, but rather she’s actually already written the most recent draft. We say that with the utmost confidence as the same source that indicated Gerwig’s involvement also confirmed that production will begin early next year! More specifically, musical rehearsals will begin in January, while the film is expected to shoot in March. In other words, with such little time before the film goes before cameras, there has to be some script the filmmakers are working with.

In addition to learning of Gerwig’s involvement with what looks to be Disney’s next live-action reboot, we’ve also obtained two character breakdowns for the film: one for a 9-year-old Snow White and one for her eventual love interest. For the younger version of Snow White, the filmmakers are looking for a young Latina actress to match the previously announced star Rachel Zegler. As expected, she will need to know how to dance and sing.

For the princess’ love interest, on the other hand, the breakdown calls for a young man with “plenty of swagger and a twinkle in his eye.” Unlike the original animated film however, this character isn’t referred to as Prince Charming. Instead, he’s simply named Jonathan and may not even be a prince at all. The fact that the rest of his breakdown suggests that he resorts “to Robin Hood-like thievery to provide for him and his friends,” hints that this may be an original character altogether made to deviate from the original source material and modernize it a bit.

Source: https://thedisinsider.com/2021/11/16/ex ... as-writer/

Well, this is interesting, sort of. I just hope these changes will turn out okay in the movie itself.

[Disney Duster]

I just realized this new take on the "prince" will now ruin "Someday My Prince Will Come".

And yes, I hope they keep the scary stuff, too.

[estefan]

I never believe TheDisInsider, but it's probably expected that the Prince will be completely expanded upon in some way. In the animated film, he shows up in the beginning to sing a song with Snow White and then we don't see him again until the end when he kisses her awake and takes her to live in his castle. We don't know what he does in his day-to-day life or what he was up to before showing up at Snow White's castle. That gives the filmmakers a lot of freedom and leeway to interpret the Prince however they wish.

[lord-of-sith]

Any character in this movie being expanded on is unsurprising. Given that it was Walt's first full length feature, and experimental in many ways, it's overall a pretty basic story and nearly all of the characters are pretty flat. Despite having ample screen time, Snow White doesn't really have much character development (she's a nice girl who remains that way) and the Dwarfs, while entertaining, are boiled down to their names. Gret Gerwig is a very talented writer and filmmaker, I loved her take on Little Women. Her talents would be absolutely wasted on a replica remake of the original. If anything, her involvement actually gets me a little excited for this project.

[Sotiris]

No one has an issue with the role of the Prince being expanded upon. We all expected that his character and his relationship to Snow White would be explored further than the animated one. But most people thought he would get the treatment Prince Charming got in the Cinderella remake. His role got expanded there, but the character remained fundamentally the same. Here, they're completely changing who he is. He's not even a prince anymore, but a thief with swagger and due to this, his relationship to Snow White will be radically different too. Their new dynamic is more reminiscent of Flynn and Rapunzel than Snow White and her prince. It's not unreasonable that people are upset or disappointed by such a big departure from the story.

[Sotiris]

I just realized this new take on the "prince" will now ruin "Someday My Prince Will Come".

Either the song will be eliminated or it will be given new purpose in the film. I was thinking that maybe there can still be a prince in the remake. A person Snow White doesn't know well and has a crush on and she sings this song thinking he'll be the solution to all her problems. Eventually, she gets disillusioned, learns to rely on herself, stops waiting for somebody to rescue her and discovers what real love looks like through her relationship with the thief. The prince could even be a villain who conspires with the Evil Queen. If that's the case, the song turns into a symbol of naiveté and starry-eyed romanticism that is harmful and that the audience needs to be aware and wary of. Essentially, the remake turns into yet another social commentary and a critique of fairytales.

[Disney's Divinity]

I agree with you, Sotiris. Nobody minds expansion on characters. I liked what they did with Belle, the Beast, Jasmine, Prince Charming, etc. in the past, for example. But making the prince a thief is a pretty big deviation, if true... He's supposed to be a faithful character that Snow White can feel dependent will come back to her. I have a feeling this decision is because Disney wants the prince to be more rugged like the Huntsman in Snow White and the Huntsman... To me, that almost makes the Prince a little too similar to the Dwarfs, if he's often running around the woods the same as they are. It would be dumb to me if he's not a prince at all.

I believe "Someday My Prince Will Come" will still be utilized, they'll probably just give SW an additional song to balance that one out.

[Vlad]

I believe the animated masterpiece is a perfect classic. I see nothing wrong with it, but I won't turn into one of those freaks who start bitching about the remake and nitpick about every single aspect of its production, cast, story, music and so on. So far, I think that Rachel and Gal are fantastic choices for the Princess and the Queen, respectively, and I'm very curious to see what they do with the characters.

If the remake will turn out to be weaker than the animation (which I'm sure it will), I will still have the animation to watch and cherish forever and ever.

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm proud being one of those "freaks" whose reaction is on a case-by-case basis. I liked the Gadot casting even if she doesn't really look like the Queen of the animated film. The woman they picked for SW on the other hand is an unknown we know nothing about so far, and I do think Snow White should have pale skin with black hair. Discerning things as they come is preferable to being the type of person who will simply slop up any turd Disney rolls out on a platter. I'll admit, whenever my genuine opinions displease the kind of people here, it makes it all the sweeter for me considering the predictable attacks they always have to descend to.

[Vlad]

No actor will ever look like an animated character. And then, why complain? Complaints will never change the movie, and most of all, never solve anything, so why do it in the first place? I don't think that accepting these things means that I accept anything that Disney puts on the market. It simply means it's not that big of a deal.

[Disney's Divinity]

Criticism does affect their output, but it usually depends on whether Disney thinks they can withstand it it or not. The criticism they're most likely to respond to or cater to is if they think they might be accused of racism or misogyny, for example, because that's a type of criticism that can catch on and get repeated ad nauseum in the media. In other cases, it takes longer and they usually have to learn the hard way. That's why I hope Mulan 2020 getting dropkicked for being nothing like what it was selling itself as might've caused them some pause for the sake of future projects. I believe all the complaining about sequels got Disney acting tricky, too, foregoing revealing some of their planned sequels for a longer point of time than they probably would have otherwise, encouraging more original projects.

[Sotiris]

^I agree with that, but we should also not overlook the personal factor in all of this. Being able to express yourself and offer your genuine opinions, even if those are negative or critical, is actually healthy and important. It adds diversity to a discussion and brings multiple perspectives to a subject. Venting allows you to release negative sentiments and frustrations instead of ruminating in silence which amplifies those emotions and overwhelms you. It also helps you find people who share your concerns or your outlook making you feel validated and understood.

[Vlad]

I think I was misunderstood. I didn't mean you should never express your opinion. By all means, I encourage you to. What I meant was it's not worth it to complain about these remakes. They are largely forgettable, and people always appreciate the originals a lot better than the remakes. So, it's not worth it to get upset over something that will be forgotten in 2-3 months after its release.

[Sotiris]

What I meant was it's not worth it to complain about these remakes. They are largely forgettable, and people always appreciate the originals a lot better than the remakes. So, it's not worth it to get upset over something that will be forgotten in 2-3 months after its release.

I understand your perspective, but I think you need to realize that whether it's worth it or not depends on the individual. For you it might not be worth it, for someone else it might. You really can't prescribe what someone else should feel, what they should care about, or how they should react to something.