The source of the magic is irrelevant. It's the character type I'm tired of, and which usually comes in combination with a sort of "deep wisdom" and/or supernatural connection with nature. The concept is usually to take some myth or superstition that exist in the world today and make it real, which makes all outsiders and non-believers look ignorant, and give this knowledge to a selected few with the same identical personality.Disney Duster wrote:Oh, ok Rumplestiltskin. I guess you are ok with magical beings like fairies but not those using religious or nature magic. Or maybe you just don't like nature magic. Mama Odie from Princess and the Frog just used religious magic. What was the stop-motion in The Nutcracker Suite?!
The Snowflake Fairies at the end of the “Waltz of the Flowers” was made with stop-motion.
https://d23.com/5-fascinating-facts-abo ... ker-suite/
I agree with this, its become a tired cliche which Disney uses quite often. And it's not always with magical characters. After Grandmother Willow, there was Grandmother Fa in Mulan and Moana's Grandmother who both spout out wisdom while cracking one-liners. Very repetitive and boring now. The ironic thing is that when Grandmother Willow was created for Pocahontas, they did so because the tired cliche was in fact making a wise old man since originally Pocahontas was supposed to confide in Old Man River.JeanGreyForever wrote:I agree with this, its become a tired cliche which Disney uses quite often. And it's not always with magical characters. After Grandmother Willow, there was Grandmother Fa in Mulan and Moana's Grandmother who both spout out wisdom while cracking one-liners. Very repetitive and boring now. The ironic thing is that when Grandmother Willow was created for Pocahontas, they did so because the tired cliche was in fact making a wise old man since originally Pocahontas was supposed to confide in Old Man River.
Like the old "eccentic martial arts mentor"-type? We saw some a hint of that in the baboon in Lion King, who knocks Simba hard on the head with his stick while laughing and explaining.
Some of the scenes with Moana's grandmother were extremely predictable. Like when she dies, and a spirit version of the manta ray shortly after join others like it in the ocean. Or when she suddenly appears before Moana on the boat, smiling knowingly. That stuff has been used many times, including in the Stephen King miniseries Bag of Bones.
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