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Hi everyone,

About Brother Bear... yet another movie I don't like. Forgettable... bland... maybe even irritating (partially blaming Phil Collins for that... it worked for Tarzan. let it go!).

About the covers, I will have to quote our friend D82 here: "As it happened with the covers for Treasure Planet, here all of them use artwork from the same two or three posters. However, I think in general the quality is not bad."

Heeeeere we go...

1) Dvd/vhs: It's actually a good cover. It's a pretty good drawing, with interesting rendering and lighting choices. The moose on the right looks odd... but nice artwork overall.

2) Zaavi Steelbook: Again, very nice. Though pretty sure some elements are recycled from the poster. Very nicely rendered, but the lighting on the characters doesn't quite match the setting... but oh well. The background is lovely. I like the dvd cover better because it evokes the mysticism of the film a little better. But this cover is good, has a lot of characters and it works. The pose on the bear cub! Ugh! It REALLY reminds me how irritating that character is. I guess its a good pose then: it does it's job :P

3) Prestige (France): Um... did they go to heaven?? This is also WAY too cluttered for a dvd cover... it just looks like a random assortment of animals. It MAY have worked as a poster... if the characters were memorable at all...

4) Blu ray: So this is basically recycling the dvd cover... only moving the rams to the other side, and adding the woman and raccoon. Sadly, these last two don't match the scale or the rendering of the rest of the cover. The racoon looks poorly drawn, though in all fairness, I have not seen the sequel (and don't intend to). They could have just reused the old dvd cover and just changed the title card.

5) Collector's (France): ranking this one low cause a) it is based on a MUCH better poster (like D82 pointed out) and b) the annoying pose of the cub! (see my comments on the zaavi)

6) France (heroes): Meh. Nice poses and well drawn, but the rendering is a little flat. They also looked pasted on that background.

I won't do the rest, cause it's mostly recycled stuff. Sigh... can't wait to get to more interesting covers. I know they are coming... though not with Home on the Range.... barf.
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farerb wrote:This edition is beautiful. I wish Disney made this kind of editions today. I guess the Target digipacks are the closest thing to that but they didn't made one for a film I want beside Aladdin, The Little Mermaid and Sleeping Beauty, but if I had gotten Aladdin, it wouldn't have felt right without The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast, and I didn't like the design of Sleeping Beauty and The Little Mermaid.
I actually hadn't seen the interior of any Target digipack before. I've now watched unboxing videos for Aladdin and some other titles and you're right, they're quite beautiful too, though I prefer the design of the French editions as I find it more cohesive.
JeanGreyForever wrote:The only time I might want to own Brother Bear is for that edition because of the packaging. It's a shame the US never gets anything like that.
I once told you guys how I lost interest in the new Disney films for a short period of time in the 2000's and that I even stopped collecting them on DVD. I also said that Chicken Little was the first title I didn't buy on DVD, but your comment reminded me that I actually never bought Brother Bear either. I didn't see it in theaters, I just rented it when it was available on home video and I didn't plan to buy it, but then I received it as a present some time later. I don't hate the movie, but I agree with Marce82 that it's not very memorable.
Marce82 wrote:The pose on the bear cub! Ugh! It REALLY reminds me how irritating that character is. I guess its a good pose then: it does it's job :P
:lol: I personally don't find him annoying, but I understand why other people do. I think he and Kenai are one of the many character duos created after the success of Shrek whose dynamic is copied from Shrek and Donkey. One who doesn't stop talking and follows the main character wherever he goes and the other who is annoyed by him and tries to get rid of him at first. Other examples are Manny and Sid from Ice Age or the bear and the deer from Open Season. They even copied the gag with Shrek covering Donkey's mouth and he not stopping talking with Kenai and Koda.
Marce82 wrote:3) Prestige (France): Um... did they go to heaven??
:lol: That thought crossed my mind too. That's why I think they should've kept the mountains from the poster.
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D82 wrote:I once told you guys how I lost interest in the new Disney films for a short period of time in the 2000's and that I even stopped collecting them on DVD. I also said that Chicken Little was the first title I didn't buy on DVD, but your comment reminded me that I actually never bought Brother Bear either. I didn't see it in theaters, I just rented it when it was available on home video and I didn't plan to buy it, but then I received it as a present some time later. I don't hate the movie, but I agree with Marce82 that it's not very memorable.
I had a similar experience, I lost all interest in new Disney films around 2003 and was only interested in getting the old films I like on DVD. I actually stopped going to new theatrical releases after Treasure Planet. My interest in Disney returned in 2012 after seeing Tangled (and I guess Once Upon A Time contributed as well) and the first theatrical release I went to since Treasure Planet was Frozen.
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farerb wrote:I had a similar experience, I lost all interest in new Disney films around 2003 and was only interested in getting the old films I like on DVD. I actually stopped going to new theatrical releases after Treasure Planet. My interest in Disney returned in 2012 after seeing Tangled (and I guess Once Upon A Time contributed as well) and the first theatrical release I went to since Treasure Planet was Frozen.
Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Your experience is indeed very similar to mine. Treasure Planet was also the last Disney film from that period I saw in theaters, though I started seeing WDAS films again on the big screen starting with Bolt, as I was interested in seeing what changes John Lasseter had brought to the studio, and the first film I was excited for again was The Princess and the Frog.
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The thing with me is that I really wasn't into Disney that I wasn't even aware at the changes going on there. The Princess and the Frog I saw on an airplane, which I thought was cute, but didn't really return my interest, I wasn't even aware about Tangled to be honest until I saw it on TV.
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I see. I never stopped following the news about the studio during that time, but I was more interested in the new films Pixar was creating then that in Disney's. And, though I was really excited for The Princess and the Frog and I liked it when I saw it, Tangled is also the first film from the Renaissance I truly loved.
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I also loved Tangled and I looked into Disney's future films afterwards and it did make me excited about Frozen.
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Marce82 wrote:The pose on the bear cub! Ugh! It REALLY reminds me how irritating that character is. I guess its a good pose then: it does it's job :P
:lol:
Marce82 wrote:Um... did they go to heaven??
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Marce82 wrote:Sigh... can't wait to get to more interesting covers. I know they are coming... though not with Home on the Range.... barf.
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God you crack me up dude! I truly loled!

Farerb and D82, I totally had no interest in Disney's 2000's films either after Atlantis. But I still always loved classic Disney and fairy tale Disney. I saw Bolt, but because my grandfather wanted to. It was ok. Then, Disney went back to classics and fairy tales and I watched them again excitedly starting with The Princess and the Frog!
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Interesting to see we all had similar experiences with Disney in the 2000s....

I actually continued watching their releases in theaters, though I disliked most movies during that decade (a few exceptions). I figured I would at least get to see come cool artwork, even if the stories and characters were bad.... until Chicken Little. I did see that in theaters... and that wasn't even visually appealing. It really was painful to sit through. So I stopped until Princess and the Frog. Since then, I have seen most (not all) Disney movies in theaters.

Most of the releases from the 2000s, I have not seen again.

And because I know you will all want to know: I did like Fantasia 2000, TENG and TPATF. Lilo and Stitch was by far the best of the decade. I still have never seen Bolt or Meet the Robinsons. Or Dinosaur... though I don't count that one.
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Marce82 wrote:Interesting to see we all had similar experiences with Disney in the 2000s....
Yes, it is. I thought it had only happened to me, but now I see it's not that strange and other Disney fans experienced something similar as well.

I've probably only watched some of the movies from that decade, like Chicken Little or Dinosaur, again the few times I've decided to watch all the Disney films in order and not because I've felt like watching them. I'm not sure about the order, but my favorites from the 2000's are The Emperor's New Groove, Treasure Planet and The Princess and the Frog. Lilo & Stitch is not a personal favorite of mine, though I recognize it's a good film and one of the best from the decade.

I think Meet the Robinsons and Bolt are worth watching at least once, but I understand why you haven't felt the urge to watch them. I didn't even rent Meet the Robinsons when it was first available because the trailer didn't pique my interest in the slightest. As I once explained, I later found a cheap combo pack that included the film and Chicken Little and I bought it for completism's sake. My expectations were very low, so I was pleasantly surprised by it.
Disney Duster wrote:Farerb and D82, I totally had no interest in Disney's 2000's films either after Atlantis. But I still always loved classic Disney and fairy tale Disney. I saw Bolt, but because my grandfather wanted to. It was ok. Then, Disney went back to classics and fairy tales and I watched them again excitedly starting with The Princess and the Frog!
As I said, it's great to know I'm not the only one. :) Like you and farerb, I never stopped liking classic Disney films. I just lost interest in the new movies Disney was releasing during those years.
farerb wrote:I also loved Tangled and I looked into Disney's future films afterwards and it did make me excited about Frozen.
I was really excited for Frozen too, but though I actually enjoy the film every time I watch it, I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with it. I think that's mainly because I wanted an adaptation more faithful to the original story. I have other issues with it too, but that one's probably the most important one. I guess that's how several members feel about Tangled; they expected something different from what we got, so though I don't share their views, I understand them.

By the way, I wrote Renaissance in my last post when I meant Revival, but hopefully you guys understood what I wanted to say.
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D82 wrote: I've probably only watched some of the movies from that decade, like Chicken Little or Dinosaur, again the few times I've decided to watch all the Disney films in order and not because I've felt like watching them. I'm not sure about the order, but my favorites from the 2000's are The Emperor's New Groove, Treasure Planet and The Princess and the Frog. Lilo & Stitch is not a personal favorite of mine, though I recognize it's a good film and one of the best from the decade.
These are my favorites as well, though they are not that high on my list. I'm more into Walt's films and the Renaissance.
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I think Meet the Robinsons and Bolt are worth watching at least once, but I understand why you haven't felt the urge to watch them. I didn't even rent Meet the Robinsons when it was first available because the trailer didn't pique my interest in the slightest. As I once explained, I later found a cheap combo pack that included the film and Chicken Little and I bought it for completism's sake. My expectations were very low, so I was pleasantly surprised by it.
I watched Dinosaur, Brother Bear, Home on the Range, Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons and Bolt only once and never desired to watch them again.
I despised Home on the Range and Chicken Little, I thought Dinosaur, Meet the Robinsons and Bolt were just okay, but not enough to really care about them, and Brother Bear just feels like a knock off of the Renaissance films so I'd much rather watch the real deal. Though I know some love it so perhaps they see something in it that I don't.
D82 wrote: I was really excited for Frozen too, but though I actually enjoy the film every time I watch it, I have a bit of a love-hate relationship with it. I think that's mainly because I wanted an adaptation more faithful to the original story. I have other issues with it too, but that one's probably the most important one. I guess that's how several members feel about Tangled; they expected something different from what we got, so though I don't share their views, I understand them.
I liked Frozen, but I never thought it was the greatest thing ever. I remember there were trailers and posters saying it was the best Disney film since The Lion King, and it might have hyped me more but then I saw it and didn't understand why... It didn't have the same weight as The Lion King for me. I guess I thought the first act was really good, I got emotional in Let it Go, but then the rest of the film sort of happened and it didn't feel like they were doing anything in terms of characters and plot development, and I guess the subverting of Disney tropes has gotten old really fast overtime for me. I do think it's a good film despite its flaws and I wish the discussion around it was more like this where you're not categorized as either you really love it or really hate it, it's probably my fourth favorite Revival film after Moana, Tangled and Zootopia (or third before Zootopia, IDK they switch places a lot...)
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D82 wrote:I once told you guys how I lost interest in the new Disney films for a short period of time in the 2000's and that I even stopped collecting them on DVD. I also said that Chicken Little was the first title I didn't buy on DVD, but your comment reminded me that I actually never bought Brother Bear either. I didn't see it in theaters, I just rented it when it was available on home video and I didn't plan to buy it, but then I received it as a present some time later. I don't hate the movie, but I agree with Marce82 that it's not very memorable.
I had a similar experience, I lost all interest in new Disney films around 2003 and was only interested in getting the old films I like on DVD. I actually stopped going to new theatrical releases after Treasure Planet. My interest in Disney returned in 2012 after seeing Tangled (and I guess Once Upon A Time contributed as well) and the first theatrical release I went to since Treasure Planet was Frozen.
The only Disney films I missed in theaters from the 2000s were Treasure Planet and Home on the Range. I even had McDonalds toys for Treasure Planet but I was not into the film at all. Was not a teenager so Jim didn't interest me, wasn't into pirates or sci-fi back then, and there was no female character to appeal to me (Amelia was not present in marketing much and even if she was, she might have been too alien for my taste back then). Home on the Range just flat out looked awful and not worth watching. Most of my Disney DVDs from this era were either Platinum Editions or Pixar films. Lilo & Stitch was the only contemporary Disney animated film that I purchased and felt I had to own. I might have gotten Meet the Robinsons if I hadn't felt I was too old for Disney back then. But I specifically remember that I went to the Disney Store to pre-order Finding Nemo on DVD and was asked if I was interested in getting Brother Bear as well and that was a flat NO lol.

Enchanted was the first Disney film I watched in this era that felt like classic Disney for me. I was okay with TPATF but not really a fan. Same with Tangled which I was maybe more critical of because I didn't like how they adapted Rapunzel. Frozen is what really made me love Disney again and to be honest, that was more because of the songs which made me forgive a lot of faults in the plot and characters. If the music hadn't been such a success, I probably wouldn't have cared much especially since Frozen was nothing like The Snow Queen.
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Home on the Range:

DVD/VHS:
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Collectible Tin:
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DVD (France):
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Heroes Cover (France):
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VCD (Hong Kong):
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The French Heroes Cover looks as if she's happy to be in a slaughterhouse. Other then that I'll say that the VCD and French DVD look fine, the rest look appropriate for this film I guess.
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Home on the Range:

1. DVD (France) -Once again France has the best covers.
2. Collectible Tin
3. VHS/DVD (Japan)
4. DVD/VHS
5. Heroes Cover (France) (farerb, that's the desert behind her)
6. Heroes Cover (UK)
7. VCD (Hong Kong)
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farerb wrote:These are my favorites as well, though they are not that high on my list. I'm more into Walt's films and the Renaissance.
They're not very high on my list either. Most of Walt's films and of the Renaissance are above them in my ranking too.
farerb wrote:I liked Frozen, but I never thought it was the greatest thing ever. I remember there were trailers and posters saying it was the best Disney film since The Lion King, and it might have hyped me more but then I saw it and didn't understand why... It didn't have the same weight as The Lion King for me. I guess I thought the first act was really good, I got emotional in Let it Go, but then the rest of the film sort of happened and it didn't feel like they were doing anything in terms of characters and plot development, and I guess the subverting of Disney tropes has gotten old really fast overtime for me. I do think it's a good film despite its flaws and I wish the discussion around it was more like this where you're not categorized as either you really love it or really hate it, it's probably my fourth favorite Revival film after Moana, Tangled and Zootopia (or third before Zootopia, IDK they switch places a lot...)
I agree with you. I think Frozen is a bit overrated. To me it's also a good film, but not one of the best ever from Disney. It's also my fourth from the Revival after the three films you mentioned, though I have those three in a different order.
JeanGreyForever wrote:The only Disney films I missed in theaters from the 2000s were Treasure Planet and Home on the Range. I even had McDonalds toys for Treasure Planet but I was not into the film at all. Was not a teenager so Jim didn't interest me, wasn't into pirates or sci-fi back then, and there was no female character to appeal to me (Amelia was not present in marketing much and even if she was, she might have been too alien for my taste back then). Home on the Range just flat out looked awful and not worth watching. Most of my Disney DVDs from this era were either Platinum Editions or Pixar films. Lilo & Stitch was the only contemporary Disney animated film that I purchased and felt I had to own. I might have gotten Meet the Robinsons if I hadn't felt I was too old for Disney back then. But I specifically remember that I went to the Disney Store to pre-order Finding Nemo on DVD and was asked if I was interested in getting Brother Bear as well and that was a flat NO lol.

Enchanted was the first Disney film I watched in this era that felt like classic Disney for me. I was okay with TPATF but not really a fan. Same with Tangled which I was maybe more critical of because I didn't like how they adapted Rapunzel. Frozen is what really made me love Disney again and to be honest, that was more because of the songs which made me forgive a lot of faults in the plot and characters. If the music hadn't been such a success, I probably wouldn't have cared much especially since Frozen was nothing like The Snow Queen.
It's very interesting to read everyone's experiences from that period. Personally, I never felt I was too old for Disney, but I was a bit afraid of what others might think, so that also played a role in my decision of not going to see some of these movies in theaters. Though, if I had been more interested in the films, I would've seen them regardless of that. Now I don't care that much about what others might think or say, but back then I did. For example, I used to send my little brother to buy me stickers for my Disney sticker albums. :lol:

I was actually quite excited about Treasure Planet. I learned Disney was adapting Treasure Island into a film a year or so before its release from a book about Disney, so I decided to read the novel first and I loved it. I hadn't seen any other adaptation of it by then, so the story was all new to me. I also knew it was by John Musker and Ron Clements, my favorite Disney directors, so that also contributed to my excitement.

Yeah, Enchanted felt quite like classic Disney to me too, especially the animated parts.
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I quite like the original DVD / VHS art and the French DVD. I am very fond of this film, I will never understand why it gets so much hate.
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farerb wrote:The French Heroes Cover looks as if she's happy to be in a slaughterhouse.
Omg.. this is something I cannot unsee now! ^^
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Here's my ranking for Home on the Range:

1. DVD (France): This time France didn't release a collector's or a prestige edition, but at least they had a different cover for the DVD. I was doubting between this and the VCD for my first spot. Both use elements from the poster and what I like about it is that the cows look like bounty hunters there, which is what's original about the movie. But I think it's more evident in the French cover, and that's why I prefer it. I also like the colors and the placement of the title, which makes me think of saloon doors.

2. VCD (Hong Kong): I already explained why I chose the French cover over this one, but I wanted to add that I compared this to the CD cover, which I knew was similar, and I found it curious that they changed Maggie's expression for the soundtrack. She's smiling there.

3. DVD/VHS: It could've been drawn a bit better, especially Buck, who doesn't look too good here, but at least it showcases the main cast and some of the film's action.

4. Collectible Tin: This is a nice drawing, but it doesn't represent the film too well, in my opinion. I just looks like a happy farm.

5. VHS/DVD (Japan): I prefer the Collectible Tin over this one because I think the frame makes it look a bit more elegant.

6. Sing Along Songs DVD: They've probably used clip art of the characters and that's why they are more on-model here than in other covers, though their poses are not very interesting. By the way, this is the only cover in which the range appears.

7. Heroes Cover (UK): I think Maggie's pose here, which is recycled from the US DVD/VHS, doesn't work without its original context.

8. Heroes Cover (France): It's the same pose as in the UK Heroes cover, but I like the full-body version even less, and yes, the coloring they've given to the background is not very appropriate.
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D82 wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote:The only Disney films I missed in theaters from the 2000s were Treasure Planet and Home on the Range. I even had McDonalds toys for Treasure Planet but I was not into the film at all. Was not a teenager so Jim didn't interest me, wasn't into pirates or sci-fi back then, and there was no female character to appeal to me (Amelia was not present in marketing much and even if she was, she might have been too alien for my taste back then). Home on the Range just flat out looked awful and not worth watching. Most of my Disney DVDs from this era were either Platinum Editions or Pixar films. Lilo & Stitch was the only contemporary Disney animated film that I purchased and felt I had to own. I might have gotten Meet the Robinsons if I hadn't felt I was too old for Disney back then. But I specifically remember that I went to the Disney Store to pre-order Finding Nemo on DVD and was asked if I was interested in getting Brother Bear as well and that was a flat NO lol.

Enchanted was the first Disney film I watched in this era that felt like classic Disney for me. I was okay with TPATF but not really a fan. Same with Tangled which I was maybe more critical of because I didn't like how they adapted Rapunzel. Frozen is what really made me love Disney again and to be honest, that was more because of the songs which made me forgive a lot of faults in the plot and characters. If the music hadn't been such a success, I probably wouldn't have cared much especially since Frozen was nothing like The Snow Queen.
It's very interesting to read everyone's experiences from that period. Personally, I never felt I was too old for Disney, but I was a bit afraid of what others might think, so that also played a role in my decision of not going to see some of these movies in theaters. Though, if I had been more interested in the films, I would've seen them regardless of that. Now I don't care that much about what others might think or say, but back then I did. For example, I used to send my little brother to buy me stickers for my Disney sticker albums. :lol:

I was actually quite excited about Treasure Planet. I learned Disney was adapting Treasure Island into a film a year or so before its release from a book about Disney, so I decided to read the novel first and I loved it. I hadn't seen any other adaptation of it by then, so the story was all new to me. I also knew it was by John Musker and Ron Clements, my favorite Disney directors, so that also contributed to my excitement.

Yeah, Enchanted felt quite like classic Disney to me too, especially the animated parts.
I always loved Disney but I used to get a hard time at school for still liking it because it was considered babyish and it was looked down upon to come to school wearing characters like that on your T-shirts or on your backpack. So I basically hid away my Disney love until I essentially stopped being a mega-fan, however I continued to collect the toys at McDonalds and mostly watch the films. When The Little Mermaid Platinum Edition DVD came out, that sorta reinspired my love for Disney but really just for TLM since that was always my favorite Disney film. Strangely enough, it was my sophomore year of high school when my love for Disney reignited and since then, I haven't felt ashamed of it.

So I can understand why you may have avoided some films in theaters because of how others may have made you feel. It's nice that you retained your Disney connection through your little brother getting you those stickers. The world would be so much easier if we were all allowed to love what we love without shame or censure.

I was never a fan of Treasure Island the book (or film) either so that also didn't inspire in me a love for the Treasure Planet film. And I was way too young to know the directors and how they also made The Little Mermaid and Aladdin but that's neat that you recognized that.
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