Why are the Disney Animated Classics differnet in the UK?

[Victurtle]

Hi everyone,

I've just stumbled upon this thread and I thought I'd share my thoughts on the Disney Classics Spine Logos. If anyone has seen any of my YouTube videos, you will know that I am a big fan of the logos and think a full collection will look incredible. Because of that, I have modified the spines of each of my Disney Classic DVDs and sequels so they fit the pattern.

http://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg6 ... G_0244.jpg

Hopefully I will have attatched a photo of my collection to this post, or you can check out a video on YouTube. Sorry for the really bad quality - I wanted to fit the whole collection in. As you'll be able to see, they don't look incredible (you could even say some of them look tacky), but I like them and I'd love to hear any thoughts that anyone on here may have about the collection.

Thanks,
Joe

Hey Joe, that looks so awesome.

I know exactly what you mean about being a fan of the Logos and full collection. I was just thinking about that today! I've considered printing my own conformity edits myself, but I'm no good with graphics, so it's great to see someone else much nitpicky and actually gone ahead and done it

[universALLove]

Ah, I see... So I take it that newer BD releases like The Princess and the Frog and Tangled should come 'equipped' with the numbered spines? But what about Bolt, Dinosaur, Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons Blu-rays?

All versions of The Princess and the Frog and Tangled are definitely numbered. I believe the single disc version of Bolt (without a blue border / basically the full cover artwork version) is numbered as it was released in 2011 and they introduced the spine numbers in 2010, I don't think the combo pack (with DVD, blue border around artwork and matching blue spine) has one though as it was released in 2009 and I'm not sure about the 3D version. Dinosaur is not part of the Disney Animated Classics list in the UK unfortunately, The Wild is in the list instead, therefore Dinosaur won't be numbered and as for Chicken Little and Meet The Robinsons, I've seen pictures of the re-issued versions with numbered spines but they're quite tricky to find. I'm currently looking for those 2 at the moment and I'm wondering whether I should take a chance and order them with my Disney Movie Rewards as we are now in 2012 and am hoping the old stock without the numbered spines are hopefully on their way out and possibly the newer stock will be the re-issued versions. Can anyone who've ordered those 2 films recently with their Disney Movie Rewards confirm whether they have numbered spines or not please...? I'd appreciate it, thanks.

Oh, by the way, there have been at least 3 versions of both Meet The Robinson and Chicken Little so be careful what to look out for.

Version 1 - Original 2007 release (also came with Disney holograms)

Chicken Little - With silver side swoop border, no numbered spine and "Walt Disney Classics" logo
Link - http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5 ... AA300_.jpg

Meet The Robinsons - With silver side swoop border, no numbered spine and "Walt Disney Classics" logo
Link - http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5 ... AA300_.jpg

(On a side note, I'm so glad they dropped the side swooping borders, it looks so ugly )

Version 2 - Full cover Re-issue (without side border) but still no number

Chicken Little - http://www.disneymovierewards.co.uk/dmr ... 148179.jpg

Meet The Robinsons - http://www.disneymovierewards.co.uk/dmr ... 860783.jpg

This version seems to be the most common as of late.

Version 3 - With Numbered Spines

Link to pictures of Chicken Little and Meet The Robinsons with numbered spine:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php ... 7&page=571

Chicken Little has also been given a light blue border for some reason despite it being previously re-issued with a full cover (see version 2) and the "Walt Disney Classics" logo has been dropped to simply "Walt Disney".

I know what to look for with those 2 movies but am a little baffled when it comes to The Wild, as there was the original version with side swoop border and no number, then re-issued with full cover but still no number and I've seen these two images with numbered spines, one is a stock photo and the other is the physical copy (not sure if it's real or not as they've brought back the 2007 side swoop )...

Stock Photo - http://www2.disney.co.uk/cms_res/Disney ... ckshot.png

Physical - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/photoimx.jpg/

Hope this has been helpful to some, albeit tedious to read about all these variable versions

[Mooky]

Wow, that was extremely thorough, extensive and helpful. I appreciate it very much, thanks!

[Mooky]

So did anyone get Snow White DE from Amazon UK marketplace in the last few months or so? What are my chances of stumbling upon the numbered version with all these sellers:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listin ... eller=&sr=

Help!

[Lnds500]

So did anyone get Snow White DE from Amazon UK marketplace in the last few months or so? What are my chances of stumbling upon the numbered version with all these sellers:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listin ... eller=&sr=

Help!

1) I suggest you ask the sellers directly.
2) Maybe you should look out for the Snow / Tangled pack since that one is sure to be numbered
3) Is a spine worth all that trouble? You can print the cover / make a sticker etc

[Mooky]

1. I did, with not much luck. They either ignore the question or say the original edition is the only edition released or they don't even ship to my country. Still waiting on a few responses but I'm not holding my breath.

2. I was under the impression that Snow White/Tangled boxset features just one BD disc for each of the films. Am I right or wrong? Besides, I already own Tangled and selling it seems too much of a hassle (it's still sealed though).

3. In short, yes . Any custom addition is a big no-no.

I already have the local 2 BDs + DVD combo. I'd just like the UK version too, since all my other UK Disney BDs have numbered spines and I'm OCD like that.

[DisneyBluLife]

You are wrong about the SnowWhite/Tangled box set. Both movies are missing the DVD copy but exept for that it includes the same discs. Tangled has 1 BD and SnowWhite has 2 BDs. Here is a video when someone is unboxing it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erU6QXPbhhQ

[Mooky]

Thanks for the info and the video. Is this the only version of the boxset available? I'm asking because product description says, "Number of discs: 2".

To be fair, it wouldn't be the first time Amazon was wrong.

[Sotiris]

Disney Italy released a DVD collection on November 02, 2016 with all of the animated films they consider "classics". It looks like they're following the same canon as they do in the UK. They've replaced Dinosaur with The Wild and excluded Winnie the Pooh.


Source: https://www.amazon.it/Collezione-Comple ... 01LASZRR6/


Disney Germany released a DVD collection on October 25, 2018 with all of the animated films they consider "classics". It looks like they're following the U.S. canon. They've included Dinosaur and Winnie the Pooh but not The Wild.


Source: https://www.amazon.de/Disney-Classics-K ... 07H3RLBST/

[Sotiris]

This was the list of animated classics in 1998. It's taken from a booklet in the American VHS of Lady and the Tramp.


Source: https://twitter.com/KirstenAcuna/status ... 6549086210

[D82]

This was the list of animated classics in 1998. It's taken from a booklet in the American VHS of Lady and the Tramp.

They already had the same numbers as now, don't they? It's interesting that they included those four live-action/animation hybrids as classics too, even though they aren't numbered. It's similar to Spain's case where Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks are considered "honorary classics". Speaking of that, I've mentioned the films that are considered classics in Spain before, but I didn't provide any proof. Here are scans of a leaflet that came with the Spanish DVD for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs in 2009:

[blackcauldron85]

Why Piglet but no Tigger or Heffalump, I wonder? And why no Pete's Dragon or So Dear To My Heart? Did they change the line-up for Tangled?

[D82]

Why Piglet but no Tigger or Heffalump, I wonder? And why no Pete's Dragon or So Dear To My Heart?

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to include the Piglet movie but not other similar Winnie the Pooh films, and that Pete's Dragon or So Dear To My Heart aren't honorary classics like the other two live-action/animation hybrid films. Song of the South should be in that category as well, but we all know why it isn't.

Did they change the line-up for Tangled?

No, here Tangled is classic number 52. Given that they added Piglet's Big Movie and The Wild in Spain in the 2000s, now we're always two numbers ahead of the US. For example, Frozen 2, the latest WDAS film to be released, is our 60th classic.

I don't know why Disney allowed other countries to have their own canons. There are some things that are debatable about the US canon (like the inclusion of Dinosaur), but it's much better than the ones made by other countries.

[Farerb]

So the regular version of the WDAS intro was played before Tangled?

[D82]

So the regular version of the WDAS intro was played before Tangled?

No, strangely enough, it was the one that presents it as Disney's 50th animated classic. It's the English version, though. At least on the Blu-ray, I don't remember if the text was translated into Spanish when the film was released in theaters. The Blu-ray also includes the "50th Animated Feature Countdown" video as a bonus feature. I guess some people in Spain are probably confused by that.

[blackcauldron85]

The average moviegoer probably hasn't been counting the Disney movies, so they won't question if Tangled is or is not the 50th. Just us obsessed fans.

Thanks for all of your insight!!

[D82]

^You're welcome.

The average moviegoer probably hasn't been counting the Disney movies, so they won't question if Tangled is or is not the 50th. Just us obsessed fans.

Yeah, you're right. I just meant that maybe some people might find it odd that the number on the spine doesn't match with what is said in the intro and the countdown featurette. But, yes, most people probably don't care about that or don't even notice it.

[JeanGreyForever]

I'm not a Tangled fan at all but I feel very sorry for any country that has to have Bolt as their 50th animated Disney classic.

[DisneyJedi]

I'm not a Tangled fan at all but I feel very sorry for any country that has to have Bolt as their 50th animated Disney classic.

Why? It wasn’t a terrible movie.

[Jules]

OMG! Just spent a good 30 minutes going through this entire thread was positively howling with laughter at Brendan’s and Albert’s posts.

Those of you who joined here these last few years, do yourself a favour and dig into the older posts. You won’t regret it!