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Thank you for your answers, Avaitor! Yes, I love the lighting of Cinderella's castle!
JeanGreyForever wrote:The King says that Kida's mother was bonded to the crystal for too long and the same fate was in store for Kida if they didn't save her in time.
Ohhh ok. That's a little better for story than I remembered.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
Jack Skellington wrote:Lol where to begin, the main tower and the color is totally off, the one that was supposed to open in Tokyo Disneyland is more accurate, anyway hopefully they plan to change it but I’m guessing because of the pin set frame you can already tell they stuck to the book version.

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What it’s meant to look like:
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You're right, the main tower is really, really short. I'm not sure why they changed it since it was much taller in the film and those pics you posted. I disagree about the color though. I think it's supposed to be that cream color or at least a light gray like in the film screenshot you posted. That lavender from the Tokyo castle doesn't seem accurate.
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I think the lavender is what the beasts castle is meant to look like in its cursed form. I really hope I can get to see it up close, I’ve been to TDL years ago, and I was really impressed by the level of detail they have over there, especially with what they did to the Arabian coast (Aladdin) section in Tokyo Disneysea.
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Jack Skellington wrote: I think the lavender is what the beasts castle is meant to look like in its cursed form. I really hope I can get to see it up close, I’ve been to TDL years ago, and I was really impressed by the level of detail they have over there, especially with what they did to the Arabian coast (Aladdin) section in Tokyo Disneysea.
Maybe, it's difficult to tell because in the opening shot, I'm assuming the castle is supposed to be freed from the curse since the narrator is telling the story of how it all happened. The stained glass window shows it as gray or cream before the curse and lavender when it's cursed but I don't know how accurate that is because the turrets are also purple there and that might just have been shading to show the castle in the dark.
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Merchandise even before this collection has kept it a cream colored castle.
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It's lavender in more Disney Princess oriented merchandise like a lego castle or Mattel playset.
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But in this shot here from the film, even though it's super dark, I don't get purple vibes at all.
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You're so lucky that you've been to the Disney Park in Tokyo before. My dream is going there one day especially because The Little Mermaid and Aladdin are two of my favorite films of all time.
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Images of the Arendelle Castle Collection merch from ShopDisney UK:

https://wdwnt.com/2020/05/photos-new-fr ... hopdisney/

Very, very pretty... No date announced for US release, but in the UK it will be out June 9th. Likely the same for the US?
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Wow, that's way more beautiful than I expected.
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Wow, that's stunning. I would pick it up as well but there's no way I can afford to.
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Utterly gorgeous. I see Elsa in the opening in front of the stairwell, but where is Anna?
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These are all very impressive. I just can't justify buying anything, though.
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^ Yeah, when I saw that $149 price tag, I was like nope. :X Does anyone know how much the puzzles and journals are?
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This article from when the Cinderella Castle was released lists the prices for all the individual items: https://wdwnt.com/2020/04/shop-new-the- ... hopdisney/

Expect the lower priced items to sell out quickly. I think the ornament, pin, and puzzle for Cinderella were only available for a matter of days, if not hours.
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this is a neat series. Dont know if Ill pick up anything...maybe a journal. I wish they had included Dunbroch, that castle was so hardcore. :up:
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unprincess wrote:this is a neat series. Dont know if Ill pick up anything...maybe a journal. I wish they had included Dunbroch, that castle was so hardcore. :up:
Don't worry, they did. It'll be the second to last castle featured in the collection just before the Beast's castle.
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oh you're rigth! and I did see the pic in the first page, how'd I miss that? I had figured theyd left Brave out b/c its Pixar.
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They're all silhouettes in that picture so it's easy to miss. Brave was included in the Castle Collection book released a year or so back so I guess that's why they justified including it here as well.
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I finally purchased the Disney Castle Collection book and it's a pretty good buy if you're a fan of the Disney castles in general. I don't think the placements of the rooms always worked out very well though, especially for the Beast's castle.

The Beast's bedroom is supposed to be behind the doors in the West Wing but in the book, it's placed above the West Wing hallway. Meanwhile, the room with the fireplace and the Beast's chair is literally as far away from the main castle entrance as possible, on the opposite site from it in one of the tallest towers. I just find it hard to believe that when Maurice first entered the castle to get warm, he was led to the farthest room in the castle in his state. The castle, as said here before, looks a little scrunched up and not tall enough. The same is true for King Stefan's castle but ironically it's the opposite case for the Sultan's palace which actually looks like they tried to stretch horizontally to make the pillars look taller.

Queen Grimhilde's castle was frankly the most interesting because we've seen it the least. And because there aren't many rooms from the film, they've designed several which are exclusive to this castle and not seen in any of the other castles like a guestroom or a bathroom or even a food storage area (what I mean by that is that pretty much every castle/palace features rooms that are servants quarters, libraries, etc.). There's a repeating peacock motif throughout so the peacock symbol isn't just in the throne room. The servants included are pretty strange because about half of them resemble the dwarfs or the cartoony style of the dwarfs and a few of them look super sinister like Grimhilde does. The butler resembles Frollo and seems like the reason everyone thinks the butler is always the killer in mysteries based on his appearance. There's a watchmen who is even creepier looking.

The canon of these castles are a little weird though. Ariel's is obviously set before the events of the film, most specifically Ariel's Beginning. It features the governess from that film alongside the new birth order for the sisters and the shared bedroom, whereas nothing from the TV show is referenced.

Belle's is set during any of her midquels because the spell hasn't been broken yet but nothing or nobody exclusive to the midquels is actually referenced (with the exception of the organ from Enchanted Christmas who gets his own chamber. Oh and the Feather Duster is given the name of Fifi which came from Belle's Magical World). Otherwise, all the servants are from the original film including Human Again. They've actually done a great job explaining the positions each servant had in the castle in their human forms as well as their first names. The Beast is just referred to as the Prince so no name for him.

Jasmine's pretty much disregards anything that isn't the original movie so no TV show or sequels referenced. The Genie is freed like at the end of the film so no bracelets on his arms. Iago and Jafar are trapped in the lamp so no reformation of Iago or death of Jafar. A fun fact is that the entire bottom of the palace is a treasure room which seems to rival the Cave of Wonders and looks straight out of there.

Cinderella's only sort of acknowledges Cinderella II: Dreams Come True. Prudence is there but she's unnamed and referred to as a governess for the palace children which I'm pretty sure isn't what she was in the film. The shorter woman she's always with in that film is completely absent. Some of the rooms in the castle come straight from Dreams Come True though like the library but I didn't recognize anything from A Twist in Time.

I don't watch the Tangled TV series but I don't think they used anything from it for Rapunzel's pages. I wouldn't recognize the rooms anyway but none of the TV show characters are referenced and they specifically only use short brown-haired Rapunzel.

The American version I have is a slightly smaller book than the UK version but it features more text about the rooms so I recommend it over the UK one. The page size isn't a problem for Ariel, Belle, and Jasmine because their respective castles/palaces are pullout pages so they are even bigger than what they would look like in the UK pages. Merida and Mulan have really wide castles so they get two pages automatically to showcase the interior which means size isn't an issue for them either. It's just Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, and Rapunzel whose castle interiors frankly needed to be depicted bigger since you can't really see a lot of the details without squinting.
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Thank you for your very detailed and thorough review of the book!

Yes, Prudence in Cinderella II: Dreams Come True was not a children's governess. I guess she was a lady in waiting and instructor to the princess?
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Disney Duster wrote:Thank you for your very detailed and thorough review of the book!

Yes, Prudence in Cinderella II: Dreams Come True was not a children's governess. I guess she was a lady in waiting and instructor to the princess?
That's what I assumed, certainly not a governess although she looks like she could be one.

BTW, I have a question for you about the palace from the first movie since you're the Cinderella authority. ;) In this below scene here, Cinderella and the Prince are kissing on a balcony.
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In the film, after she runs away from the prince, she leaves this balcony and appears back in the ballroom before heading down the main entrance staircase. So presumably, the balcony was outside of the ballroom as also depicted in the Castle Collection book and merchandise.
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So how is it that if they're sitting on that balcony and kissing, the clock tower would be visible behind them? Looking at the castle and where the ballroom and balcony are located, the clock tower would be in a completely different location altogether and probably not visible from the balcony right?
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Yes, that's right. Walt Disney's team decided to just make the clock tower visible on the balcony even though it wouldn't be truly. There is the possibility Cinderella and the Prince went from the ballroom to a balcony that was very near the clock tower, and at midnight Cinderella ran really far from that balcony all the way to the ballroom in a matter of seconds, but that is highly doubtful, especially as there is no tower taller than the clock tower for her to have run into from any balcony. Hope that made sense.
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Disney Duster wrote:Yes, that's right. Walt Disney's team decided to just make the clock tower visible on the balcony even though it wouldn't be truly. There is the possibility Cinderella and the Prince went from the ballroom to a balcony that was very near the clock tower, and at midnight Cinderella ran really far from that balcony all the way to the ballroom in a matter of seconds, but that is highly doubtful, especially as there is no tower taller than the clock tower for her to have run into from any balcony. Hope that made sense.
Thank you for explaining, I just wanted to know if I was being spatially unaware or not lol. I always used to imagine that they were on a very high balcony on one of the longest towers from that shot but like you said, it's not plausible that she could have run all the way down before the spell broke.

If only you could work out the issues for the Beast's castle in this Castle book because they really didn't work out the anatomy of the castle very well.
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Yes, I'm sorry I don't know Beauty and the Beast in and out enough to help with that!
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