Snow White (Live-Action)

[Sotiris]

If they use real little people in Snow White then Hunchback live action MUST use a real disfigured person in the lead role!!! Or else it would be total hypocrisy!

It wouldn't. Disney can easily find little people actors whereas an actor who is at the same time disfigured and deaf and Roma and can sing is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to come by.

[Farerb]

I have mixed feelings about this subject. On the one hand, little people actors don't have a lot of work opportunities so denying them the few roles that come along doesn't seem right. On the other, relegating little people actors to fantasy roles such as dwarfs, munchkins, and leprechauns seems stereotypical, if not outright offensive and demeaning, and may actually hurt the plight of little people by furthering preconceptions about them. Ideally, more roles would be written for little people that are not restricted to the fantasy genre.

Peter Dinklage has talked about this before, which is why I can see him refuse being a dwarf in this film.

[Disney Duster]

Thanks for showing me that, Atlantica.

@Duster: I understand what you mean that animation is like the acting of animated films, but it's nonsensical to suggest that real dwarfs shouldn't play the roles in the live-action film just because in previous SW films, none of the dwarf actors have been praised for their talents. There's literally no correlation between those two statements and frankly it sounds ableist, which I know you don't meant to come across as.

It's ok, and I respect your opinion. I have no idea if there are enough little people who are good actors. We need seven dwarfs! But I could believe there are enough little people who are good actors if I was told there were.

Ok guys, I'm on the cast real little people train. If little people have been outraged about not using little people before, then that makes me think they should cast them.

[Disney's Divinity]

It's not anybody here's fault, it must be the appropriate thing to say, but reading "little people" over and over just sounds so condescending. The phrase keeps making me think of The Borrowers rather than people that are around half the average height of most people. People who are short sounds better.

I went to Google about what appropriate terms there are to use, and honestly "people of short stature" or those "having dwarfism" sounds better than "little people." Apparently "dwarfs" is socially acceptable? I wouldn't have thought so.

[Farerb]

I want Julie Andrews to play the Evil Queen and Emily Blunt to play Snow White (I'm still waiting for Disney to announce that Sound of Music remake sequel starring Emily Blunt).

[Disney Duster]

But Emily could never knock Julie from being the fairest one of all!

[Sotiris]

Q: What kind of actress is Disney looking at for Snow White?

Skyler Shuler: 18-25 years old and semi-unknown actress.

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Q: Any names you can tell us that Disney is looking at for the Evil Queen?

Skyler Shuler: Not confirmed at this point but an actress that Disney likes for the role is Olivia Colman.

Source: https://i.imgur.com/Yf7KA62.jpg

We should be getting Snow White casting news soon.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkylerShuler/status ... 6055968769

Snow White is casting filming in March. Hear they are going for big name actors for a couple of the dwarfs, and some will be CGI.

Source: https://twitter.com/SkylerShuler/status ... 6275374081

[UmbrellaFish]

Ooooooh Olivia Colman, I love her. Not exactly the first person I think of when I think “vamp” but with the right costuming she can sell it and we already know how regal and commanding she can be. And she will he wonderfully wicked as the old witch!

[Disney's Divinity]

Olivia Colman is a great actress… But she’s not beautiful. That’s not a knock on her, since it’s not like she’s ugly or anything. It’s just, you can sort of get away with casting an average-looking woman as Snow White because her beauty* is “on the inside” (her kindness / morality) and all that, but the Evil Queen’s beauty can only be beauty in looks only because there is nothing good on the inside.

* Unlike in a case like Sleeping Beauty, where the princess is specifically gifted in the narrative with physical beauty. Similar to how the sleeping beauty and the little mermaid both should have above average voices for the narrative. The beauty from B&tB and Cinderella are other characters like SW where I think you can get away with the actors not having above average looks (ie, their beauty "comes from the inside").

[JeanGreyForever]

I love Olivia Colman but isn't she too old for the role of the Queen? The Queen should be in her 30s if not look even younger. I expected an actress more along the lines of Charlize Theron to be honest, but I do love Colman and I know she has the acting chops so I probably won't mind this change much.

What shocks me more and what nobody else has mentioned yet is the fact that they openly admitted that for the dwarfs, they plan on casting big names and using CGI to make them into dwarfs. That is super tone deaf imo and will get a lot of flack on social media. I don't like this decision at all.

[Disney Duster]

The Queen needs to be someone younger and very, very beautiful. The Queen is an aging beauty, but still young enough and beautiful enough to not yet be, well, the Witch. It should not be Olivia Colman unless they write something that explains how such a homely looking woman ever got to be called the fairest one of all.

Snow White could just be the fairest one of all on the inside, it's true. Belle has to be beautiful, her name came from what people saw, and it's what the Beast saw that made him so fearful if she could love him or not. Cinderella in her original fairy tale is specified as "as beautiful as she was kind", so if you are being close to the original tale, she has to be physically beautiful, too.

You guys earlier convinced me they should use real dwarfs, so Disney should rightfully get backlash.

[JeanGreyForever]

The Queen needs to be someone younger and very, very beautiful. The Queen is an aging beauty, but still young enough and beautiful enough to not yet be, well, the Witch. It should not be Olivia Colman unless they write something that explains how such a homely looking woman ever got to be called the fairest one of all.

Snow White could just be the fairest one of all on the inside, it's true. Belle has to be beautiful, her name came from what people saw, and it's what the Beast saw that made him so fearful if she could love him or not. Cinderella in her original fairy tale is specified as "as beautiful as she was kind", so if you are being close to the original tale, she has to be physically beautiful, too.

You guys earlier convinced me they should use real dwarfs, so Disney should rightfully get backlash.

Exactly. Snow White takes a lot of thematic parallels from the age old idea found in ancient mythologies, folklore, and fairy tales that women had three incarnations: the maiden, the mother, and the crone. The Queen is supposed to be in the mother phase and she is so desperate to return to the form of a maiden that she inadvertently accelerates her progression into the crone from her wicked deeds.

In my opinion Snow White was the fairest one of all because she was fair on the inside as well as outside. I know looks aren't supposed to matter in this day and age and that's certainly what we tell ourselves but at the end of the day, whether we like it or not, that's a blatant lie and especially not true in the age of social media. Looks matter more than ever and they certainly did in the 16th century. I hate the mentality that some people have that because the princesses were beautiful that somehow makes them unrelatable and they should be "uglified" to bring them down a peg like John Lasseter wanted to do. It's the same reason that frankly all the new princesses are more homely or plain cute rather than drop dead gorgeous but fairy tale princesses were always meant to be the sort of unattainable beauty and that's especially true for Snow White who is literally meant to be the fairest of them all. This seems to be more of an American thing anyway because in Europe and Japan (and I daresay much of the rest of Asia), they still hold to the classic trope of a fairy tale princess being the most beautiful.

It just feels really weird for Disney to do this especially in an era when the most popular TV show of the decade (Game of Thrones) had a dwarf who is one of the most popular and beloved characters and in fact, the favorite of the author/creator. And beyond Peter Dinklage, there's Warwick Davis who has also made a career from being in some of the most beloved franchises of all time like Star Wars and Harry Potter. There are several other prominent ones as well and we've seen dwarf actors in the Narnia films, Oz the Great and Powerful, and even Enchanted (the actor who Giselle mistakes as Grumpy literally hosted an entire bonus feature for Disney) just to name a few so it's not like Disney doesn't have a staple of dwarf actors to pick from.

[Disney Duster]

I didn't know that about the maiden, mother, and crone. That's cool! And yes, her wicked schemes ironically push her to the crone!

I would rather Snow White was an almost impossible beauty as the true fairest of all inside and out, but a great actress who looks appealing is what I need.

I must agree with the rest of what you say though, even though I still kind of wish that looks didn't matter...I know it's not true, I just wish it was...it's a romantic idea. Beauty and the Beast rides on that romantic idea.

[JeanGreyForever]

I didn't know that about the maiden, mother, and crone. That's cool! And yes, her wicked schemes ironically push her to the crone!

I would rather Snow White was an almost impossible beauty as the true fairest of all inside and out, but a great actress who looks appealing is what I need.

I must agree with the rest of what you say though, even though I still kind of wish that looks didn't matter...I know it's not true, I just wish it was...it's a romantic idea. Beauty and the Beast rides on that romantic idea.

It's really prominent in Norse/Germanic mythologies I think. Welsh mythology too because they used it for the witches in The Chronicles of Prydain, the books anyway.

I'm not expecting the most beautiful girl who ever existed to be conjured up for the part but I'd hope the girl they pick is lovely on the outside. Like Lily James for example who I think is beautiful and I never understood all the flack she got about being "ugly" when she was cast. Frankly, I could understand that more for Emma Watson especially after that awful doll the Disney Store released. That was so bad that even Disney Store workers were laughing about how that doll didn't sell at all and people would just come into the store to take a picture with it.

Looks are important but they aren't the most important thing. A physical attraction is generally necessary for most relationships but keep in mind that beauty is in the eye of the beholder so what most everyone thinks isn't beautiful can still be regarded beautiful by someone else and that goes for both physical and inner beauty. I'm sure there are couples out there who fell in love regardless of their looks or maybe in spite of them. I believe that soulmates will find each other no matter what, but for the general populace and those who don't really believe in love or anything like that, they're looking for a physical attraction, at least to start with.

And honestly, I don't think it's necessary for fairy tales to completely reflect contemporary values. So I have no issue with the idea of these beautiful princesses existing in fictional stories since at the end of the day, they aren't real and shouldn't affect your value as a person.

[Disney Duster]

I agree with all of that! Lol about the ugly Emma Watson doll, though I have always thought Emma actually is very beautiful and the doll was Disney's mess up.

[JeanGreyForever]

She's pretty but I always thought she was overrated in the looks department and not as drop-dead gorgeous as she's made out to be. I know a lot of people to this day feel she wasn't beautiful enough to play Belle.

[DisneyFan97]

Disney's animated evil queen was beautiful. So much, she felt she didn't have to show her hair to be beautiful. Like Maleficent. But I imagine they will show her hair, as part of doing a new take visually.

What does Jessica Lange have to do with Faye Dunaway?

Foud on FX was AMAZING gave GREAT insight in to the live and mind set pf Bette Davis !!

Fun Fact: Two of Davis last movies were for Disney Watcher in The Woods and The Sequel to Race to Witchmutian

[JeanGreyForever]

Disney's animated evil queen was beautiful. So much, she felt she didn't have to show her hair to be beautiful. Like Maleficent. But I imagine they will show her hair, as part of doing a new take visually.

What does Jessica Lange have to do with Faye Dunaway?

Foud on FX was AMAZING gave GREAT insight in to the live and mind set pf Bette Davis !!

Fun Fact: Two of Davis last movies were for Disney Watcher in The Woods and The Sequel to Race to Witchmutian

Yeah Feud was great. I was already a fan of Joan Crawford and Bette Davis but this show really made me love them and seek out their films. Since then I've seen about 50-60 of their films combined.

I still need to watch Bette's Disney films especially Watcher in the Woods.

[DisneyFan97]

I think temptation of stunt casting the dwarfs with celebrities will likely be too big for Disney chose to cast relatively unknown little people actors instead.

That's just how hollywood works.

[Sotiris]

Marc Webb's 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs' now looks to begin filming this July in Vancouver and Los Angeles.

Source: https://twitter.com/GeekVibesNation/sta ... 1512902658