Why hasn´t Disney released these movies on BD in Spain/Europ

[DC Fan]

...couldn´t fit the entire title.

This post may go on International DVD/BD but because of it´s nature I guess could very well be suited here.

So, Spain (and my guess is that Europe in general) has still yet to get The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Great Mouse Detective and Winnie the Pooh on BD.

I don´t get it. These are the only ones (well, #6 - #11 too) that aren´t available here. FOR YEARS NOW!!!

The thing is that we we were getting all the releases alongside USA whenever they happened. I remember that the last were the batch that included Lilo and Stitch, Treasure Planet, Atlantis and Home on the Ranch. And I think that prior to those were both Rescuers movies, The Sword in the Stone and Robin Hood.

How come Home on the Range got a BD and those ones not?! Even The Wild is easy available on BD!

As of Winnie Pooh this one is available on DVD with the number on the spine.

...and that´s my thing. I´m a Puerto Rican living in Spain. Back there I collected the movies on DVD with no problems. I know I can just buy them from USA but I don´t want to precisely because of the numbering in the spines. They look really good that way.

So, anyone know?

[Farerb]

These are the only films to be released on Blu-ray in Israel before they stopped releasing Blu-rays.

[Farerb]

UK versions might have numbers on the spine. Maybe you can get it from there.

[DC Fan]

So sorry.

But thing is that Spain has them all for sale all the time (DVD/BD) and they sell very well. So it´s not like they don´t sell.

As said, even the least popular movies (Dinosaur, Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons...) you can always see/get them. So there´s no reason for not bringing those titles.

PS

I wrote to Disney Spain. Sadly, they aren´t that well versed on these topics. By that I meant that they just have a general customer service.

...they replied and said that my message will be forward to the responsible department (whatever that means) and that they will take my request/complaint in consideration for "future Web upgrades" (?). As said, useless.

Still, I contacted Disney USA and I´ll post here what they tell me.

[DisneyBluLife]

Scandinavia are still waiting on "The great mouse detective", "Fun and Fancy free" and "Ichabod and Mr.Toad" on Blu-ray.

But we do have " The many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" and "Winnie the Pooh (2011)" on Blu-ray since 2012.

[D82]

As farerb suggested, maybe you can get them from the UK. Winnie the Pooh, has never been released on Blu-ray there either, but The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and The Great Mouse Detective have. The latter also includes the Spanish dubbing, if you are interested in it. And, though not in the same format, both have the number of classic on the spine. Here are links to buy them from Amazon UK and Zavvi:

The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Many-Adventure ... ref=sr_1_1
https://www.zavvi.es/blu-ray/many-adven ... 81138.html

The Great Mouse Detective:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Basil-Great-De ... ref=sr_1_1
https://www.zavvi.es/blu-ray/basil-the- ... 81135.html

You can also purchase the same Blu-rays directly from Amazon Spain, but I've seen it's more expensive.

As for Winnie the Pooh, if it has been released on Blu-ray in Scandinavia and perhaps in some other European countries, maybe you can find a version from one of those territories that has the number on the spine.

[DisneyBluLife]

Yes, I have "Winnie the Pooh" (2011) in my Swedish Blu-ray collection. But it doesn't have a number on the spine because Scandinavia follows the same "Disney classics" number list as the UK, where "The Wild" is included.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Winnie-t ... ray/39676/

https://www.discshop.se/filmer/bluray/n ... dvd/P96705

[rodrigo_ca]

Oddly enough, the same titles also weren't released in Brazil (and then some more, like Oliver and Company and The Fox and the Hound). Disney distribution of titles can be a bit odd. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh was never released even on DVD over here. Pocahontas was also overlooked for many, many years, only getting a DVD release around 2010. I was never able to understand the reason why.

[DC Fan]

I got an answer from Disney USA (it may help to other countries with this problem...and I´d suggest you contact them and the one from your country to get both sides).

They just told me to get in contact with Disney Spain. And kind of letting me know that they can´t do anything about it.

I just wrote them again telling them what Disney Spain told me (useless) and since they´re main Disney there´s no way they can´t do something about it. What´s the big deal? Just make them available. And there´s this fun fact...They don´t have to put any work into it because the BD releases already contain a Spanish track.

...and there´s this story. From Snow White to The Little Mermaid the Disney movies just came with the Latin American Spanish dub (with the exception of Pinochio´s Argentinian dubbed) this Spanish track is done in Mexico. And, Spaniards that grew up with it learned to enjoy it so even if they made a new Castillian dub they wouldn´t like it. So, as said, no need to invest on it. If they want to create a new Castillian dub that´s fine but not needed.

I´ll let you know what Disney USA tells me.

As far as the number in the spine...it´s not the same one. I´ll post a picture of my collection. I appreciate your suggestions. I´ll wait a little while more. If it seems nothing happens then I´ll just import them from USA.

[DC Fan]

Sorry for the lighting. The best I could do with the cell phone. I´m still missing Ralph Breaks the Internet (and Frozen 2 when gets released) as well as Toy Story 4.

My collection even has The Wild (just have it because of the numbering).




And here you can see more closely how the number in the spine is in Spain.

[blackcauldron85]

The Black Cauldron + The Great Mouse Detective haven't been released in Spain?

Were the DVDs numbered like this, or just the Blu-ray? (Wondering, pre-Dinosaur in the lineup, if the #s were different.)

[DC Fan]

Yes, The Black Cauldron and The Great Mouse Detective are available on DVD. The same with The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and the Classics # 6 - #11. And even the DVDs have the number on the spine.

You don´t get to see it but my Princess and the Frog, Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio don´t have the number. In the case of Princess and the Frog that was just with the first release (BD + DVD combo); Even though Snow White came around the same time with the same release and it has the number (?). When that edition went out they placed the number. Similar case with Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio. That just happened with the Platinum Editions. As these ones went discontinued they got the number on the spine.

...if in the future, I get bothered about it I may get the regular releases and place them on the shelf just for the sake of consistency. Of course I wouldn´t get rid of off the Platinum Editions since they are the best releases of these movies.

What´s really, really annoying and doesn´t make sense is The Rescuers Down Under. As you can see it doesn´t have the number. And it´s annoying and bothersome in many ways:

1. By the time it got released many of the movies already had the numbering.
2. The Rescuers Down Under was released with a wave of other titles that all had the numbering.
3. The Rescuers was part of that wave of releases and it had the number on the spine.
4. It´s the only Classic that doesn´t have the number in the entire collection.
5. The DVD release of The Rescuers Down Under has the number.

...there may come a time when I will just print out the number and place it on the BD.

*****NOTE*****:

Just checked something. The BD release of Ralph Breaks the Internet doesn´t have the number in the spine either but the DVD does. Yet, the upcoming release of Frozen 2 will have the numbering.

https://www.elcorteingles.es/cine/A2965 ... ernet-dvd/

https://www.elcorteingles.es/cine/A2965 ... t-blu-ray/

https://www.elcorteingles.es/cine/A3307 ... i-blu-ray/

As far as the numbering in the spine goes. It´s funny to think that some countries (Spain in this case) were consistent in numbering the Disney Classics while USA never bothered.

And while many regular people will just buy the ones they like for others that numbering it´s a reminder that these movies are part of a collection and may want to get them all just to complete it.

[blackcauldron85]

For some reason, I'm not surprised that Disney wasn't consistent with the numbering!

[Farerb]

For some reason, I'm not surprised that Disney wasn't consistent with the numbering!

Yes. It's like how the Diamond Editions didn't have consistent covers.

[DC Fan]

For some reason, I'm not surprised that Disney wasn't consistent with the numbering!

Yet, as you can see, it just happened a couple of times (The Rescuers Down Under and Ralph Breaks the Internet). The previous times they fixed it.

Also, I forgot to answer part of your question. You asked about the numbering implying the shuffle Disney did to take off The Wild and put in Dinosaur in order to make Tangled #50.

Well, thing is that in Spain it didn´t happen. In Spain it´s not like in other countries were some Direct-to-VHS/DVD movies are part of the line. The only one that actually doesn´t fit is The Wild that is part of the Classics and even has the number in the spine.

...by the way, upon watching recently the movie again it´s funny to think that it´s not actually made by Disney as it´s style/morale/atmosphere resembles one.

PS

Disney USA still hasn´t replied regarding the reasoning of why those movies aren´t available in Spain. And it makes me wonder. They always take care of customer´s concerns and the first time they answered me the same day yet days have gone by.

[JeanGreyForever]

For some reason, I'm not surprised that Disney wasn't consistent with the numbering!

Yes. It's like how the Diamond Editions didn't have consistent covers.

Just like their Platinum line, their Signature line, Toy Story 4's steelbook not matching the new steelbooks for the first three Toy Story films, TROS not getting a cover like the rest of the 4K Star Wars films, etc. This is what Disney's known for.

[DC Fan]

So, I checked several sites and it seems that RALPH BREAKS THE INTERNET does have the number on the spine. That was just a promotional picture on that site.

So, with the exception of The Rescuers and the mistakes that were corrected later the only thing that bothers me about the number, as you can see from my pictures, is the placement. They´re all over they´re all over the place. Unlike other countries.

JeanGreyForever:

You´re right regarding Disney´s inconsistency. I don´t get it. They´re Disney. A very well and beloved brand. I don´t get why they can´t put care and though in their brand.

If we as fans do care why they can´t? And it´s not that hard to do.

For instance with the Classics: bring over all the Extra content available in previous releases and include new ones (maybe they´re not that much because they already delivered it but do it) instead of doing the opposite and remove it for no reason.

...anyone remembers what happened with the Extra discs in the Ultimate Edition of The Emperor´s New Groove, Dinosaur, Tarzan and The Emperor´s New Groove?

It´s not like they have to invest money. IT´S ALREADY DONE! In any case you just wasted that money.

As far as presentation goes...Just find talented artists that can deliver in the artwork department and once you established a pattern...just keep going on with. How is this difficult?

[D82]

In Spain it´s not like in other countries were some Direct-to-VHS/DVD movies are part of the line. The only one that actually doesn´t fit is The Wild that is part of the Classics and even has the number in the spine.

What about Piglet's Big Movie? It was released in theaters, but was produced by DisneyToon Studios and not by WDAS. That one doesn't fit the line either, in my opinion.

Regarding Dinosaur, it's like you say, in Spain it wasn't added later like in the US. Here it already had the number on the spine since it was first released on DVD.

...there may come a time when I will just print out the number and place it on the BD.

That's actually not a bad idea, DC Fan. You could make the numbers look like the originals using Photoshop or another similar software and you could even print them on sticker paper to make them look more professional.

[JeanGreyForever]

At least the two Tarzan discs were reissued in the UK and maybe other international countries as well but the UK for sure. For some reason, only in the US did they decide last minute to scale back the release and make it only one disc.

[DC Fan]

In Spain it´s not like in other countries were some Direct-to-VHS/DVD movies are part of the line. The only one that actually doesn´t fit is The Wild that is part of the Classics and even has the number in the spine.

What about Piglet's Big Movie? It was released in theaters, but was produced by DisneyToon Studios and not by WDAS. That one doesn't fit the line either, in my opinion.

Regarding Dinosaur, it's like you say, in Spain it wasn't added later like in the US. Here it already had the number on the spine since it was first released on DVD.

...there may come a time when I will just print out the number and place it on the BD.

That's actually not a bad idea, DC Fan. You could make the numbers look like the originals using Photoshop or another similar software and you could even print them on sticker paper to make them look more professional.

As for the numbering issue...It seems that it will just be The Rescuers Down Under so I´ll contact Disney Spain to see if they are willing to make a cover for me. After all, the DVD already includes the number.

https://www.elcorteingles.es/cine/A3845 ... andia-dvd/

If not, I´ll contact Disney USA. I know it´s not the same but, anyone remembers back in the day of the slipcovers of DVDs that you could contact them and they´ll ship one if you asked? I did.

And if that´s not possible either I´ll do just that. I´ll make use of the number image on the DVD, work it to make it fit the BD and place it there.