How to Tell if Your Dvd is Fake/Bootleg or Is This Dvd Real?

isa · Post by **isa** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:14 pm

Thanks for such a well thought out answer.

disneyunlimited · Post by **disneyunlimited** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:21 pm

Looks pretty genuine to me! Hey, I might just bid on it myself...

pleasurebay · Post by **pleasurebay** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:09 pm

Well all I can say is that I've bought somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 or so DVD's from ebay over the last several years (mostly disney) and so far I've been ripped only once on a copy of Jungle Book II. And that was partially my fault for not reading every last word on the listing.
The majority of the sellers with a solid feedback record based on my experience are honest merchants, buyers should pay attention to the established record.

When I select items available in the US it generally weeds out the bulk of the Asian sellers but there are a few that still falsely list the country of origin.

It's getting harder and harder to get a bargain on ebay.

I'm going to check out the DVD Decrypter, thanks for the info.

panhead4life · Post by **panhead4life** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:12 pm

If you wanna bid, go for it, I won't outbid anyone anymore. I probably shouldn't have gone as high as I did since I have bills that need to get paid, but i'm sure it will go higher one way or another

if not, I guess I got a pretty good deal

disneyunlimited · Post by **disneyunlimited** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:52 pm

I certainly don't condone bootleg/pirate copies but they do appear to serve a purpose for out-of-print movies allowing people who just want to watch the film a chance to buy it at a budget price.

The problem, of course, is when the seller doesn't make it clear that it is an unofficial copy and the buyer ends up paying over the odds for it.

Of course, the real danger is where your hard-earned money is going when you buy a dodgy DVD, as most bootlegging outfits are used to fund organised crime, drugs, etc.

If only Disney would keep all their films on catalogue then it wouldn't be a problem - although I suppose with a total catalogue of over 1000 titles (according to IMDb there are 1345 titles that credit Disney as the production company!) this would be a pretty daunting task.

However, if I were in charge of Disney Enterprises it's something I would certainly strive to achieve! In fact, one of the first things I'd do is produce a 44 DVD box set containing every 2D Disney animated classic - all in their OARs (of course) and with numbers on the spines and similar matching artwork. It would probably be quite expensive but it's my ultimate "fantasy item"...

DisneyGirl · Post by **DisneyGirl** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:47 pm

I must say, I absolutly love this whole Pacific Rim debate. With the exception of the name calling, it is a rather interesting discussion. I read recently in a textbook last term that the Pacific Rim countries are defined by the Ring of Fire. Being from Hawaii, kids learn about the Ring of Fire at a very early age, seeing as how we're right smack in the middle of all of this geological activity.

[quote=PhilMo]With that said, most people's perception of “Pacific Rim country” is one on the western edge of the Pacific, north of Australia & south of the far eastern Russian coast which includes countries like China, Korea, Malaysia, Philippines, etc. This is what I meant in my initial posting and I wasn’t referring to Canada, the USA or any other North American or South American country that borders the Pacific. [/quote]

PhilMo stated that "most people's perception of "Pacific Rim country"" is such and such. Perhaps this is a geographical thing isolated to where he lives? Since obviously this is not the thinking on this forum (well, at least all of us don't) Over here, the grade schools teach Pacific Rim to mean all countries touching the Pacific Ocean. However, in upper education it is refers to the large countries with a population over so many. (and people wonder why kids in my state have such low test scores)
I believe the lesson from this thread would be that we all interpret things differently, and we all have varying opinion, perhaps it would be better not to use this term in the future, as I believe we had this same debate once before (or was that on another forum?) I cannot stand that we become so divided over something so trivial.
I personally believe that Pacific Rim means any country with a Pacific coast, but this is only my opinion, obviously there are others out there.

pleasurebay · Post by **pleasurebay** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:35 am

It really makes you wonder, they bitch about piracy yet their policies are the primary cause.

isa · Post by **isa** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:28 am

I agree. I don't think it would be a bad financial policy to have the top 50 or even the top 100 animated films available for sale. Think of all the money they could be making right now with Jungle Book or Little mermaid. Perhaps, they could sell these authentic movies for lower prices in less affluent countries where people choose bootlegs because they qre significantly less expensive. I would love any system that would reduce piracy and at the same time make more great movies available to everyone.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:31 am

The problem with making everything avaialble now is there's too much consumer choice. I know people constantly tell is choice is good, but it's not, becuase too many choices lead to too many bad decisions.

People on this forum who are already making tough decisions about what they are going to buy in this year's busy 4th quarter - because it is full of so many excellent titles and people only have so much money. If all of Disney's classic animated films were available people wouldn't automatically buy them - there's only so much money to go around.

And if they are to be continuously available, then they will soon be lost under all the new DVD titles being released each and every week. A shop only has so much shelf space, and will naturally favour new releases.

By releasing and then withdrawing the big titles, Disney can build up expectations and publicity for each release so it is not lost on the shelves after a few weeks.

I think Disney were perhaps limiting their releases too much before (but now they are supposed to be available for 2 years, and will be back every 5 years rather than 7?) It seems to be about right. It's only what other studios do with their movies all the time (titles are constantly going OOP) but Disney just gives people more warning.

jabroni76 · Post by **jabroni76** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:41 am

disneyunlimited wrote: So far, every Asian and Far Eastern copy I've examined have been missing CSS and regional coding which suggest they're all boots although I'm sure there must be some genuine Disney's from these countries...(!?)

Actually, this summer, I went to Iran, and every single copy of a movie, video game, anything is a bootleg. There is no question about it. Now i'm not sure about other countries, the bigger ones, but definately around the Middle East, I'd say there are a TON of bootlegs.. just an fyi,

Starion · Post by **Starion** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:05 am

JimmyJackJunior wrote:
PhilMo wrote:

1. As a general rule, if the seller is from any Pacific rim country, they’re selling cheap Asian imports.

Canada and the USA are Pacific Rim countires. Does that mean sellers from these countries are selling bootlegs as a general rule?

I hope Canada an the United states aren't selling bootlegs.

Thanks for the tips PhilMo.

I'll keep them in mind if I buy a movie from Ebay.com.

disneyunlimited · Post by **disneyunlimited** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:23 pm

2099net wrote:The problem with making everything available is there's too much consumer choice.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. If I want a particular film and it's not available to buy then the shops that don't stock it lose out as I'm not going to simply choose a different film instead!

2099net wrote:If all of Disney's classic animated films were available people wouldn't automatically buy them - there's only so much money to go around.

Yes, but at least the thousands of consumers who do want to buy them new would be able to, rather than buying a second-hand copy or a bootleg, neither of which make any money for Disney.

2099net wrote:And if they are to be continuously available, then they will soon be lost under all the new DVD titles being released each and every week. A shop only has so much shelf space, and will naturally favour new releases.

The shelf space necessary for the 44 animated classics would be less than two foot (displayed spine on). Hardly a problem for most stores. Just think of all the unnecessary junk on sale that probably costs more to display than the cost of the shelf space. At least with the Disney Classics shops are guaranteed sales!

If I were Disney, I would still hype up the restored versions and have limited collectors editions, but I would make sure that a single-disc DVD version of every "classic" remained on catalogue for families who just want to buy the film for their kids.

panhead4life · Post by **panhead4life** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:49 am

Looks very official to me, and it doesn't look like a foreign import neither. It looks like a TRUE R1 to me, but I just want to be sure. Also, the UPC on this one matches according to half.com's

thanks guys

panhead4life · Post by **panhead4life** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:17 am

nobody knows?

poco · Post by **poco** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:40 am

looks real to me

isa · Post by **isa** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:01 am

When I select items available in the US it generally weeds out the bulk of the Asian sellers but there are a few that still falsely list the country of origin.

Thanks for the great tip.

This is a description from ebay - it states it is not a bootleg - but it also states that it isn't sealed..........Is this possible? It must be a bootleg..right?

SEALED DISNEY LITTLE MERMAID DVD W/CHAPTER INSERT, AUTHENTIC AND SEALED, MUST HAVE GENUINE DVD, NO IMPORTS, BOOTLEGS OR COPIES, PLEASE DON'T BE FOOLED, NEW, MEANING NEVER VIEWED AND SEALED, NOT FACTORY SEALED.YOU WILL RECEIVE EXACTLY WHAT IS PICTURED., ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE WELCOME.NO BIDDERS WITH ZERO OR NEGATIVE FEEDBACK CONTACT ME IF INTERESTED!!.

SofaKing381222 · Post by **SofaKing381222** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:39 am

it's definently not a bootleg it looks very good. and its really hard to bootleg the Toy Box because of the slip cover effect.

panhead4life · Post by **panhead4life** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:31 am

cool, i never thought of that. thanks guys

MickeyMousePal · Post by **MickeyMousePal** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:33 pm

looks real to me

disneyunlimited · Post by **disneyunlimited** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:53 pm

The eBay seller in question, diphips, only sells deleted Disney DVDs. If you check their feedback they do indeed appear to be bootlegs, regardless of what he/she says in the listings. Here are just a few examples:

- Disappointed with product recieved - Item not authentic Disney DVD - Bootleg | Aug-06-04 18:34 | 6308105537

- "Sealed" and "new" should not mean that you bought a shrink wrapper. NOT NEW! | Aug-02-04 18:13 | 6310915019

- Fast shipping and dvd works.....not sure if it is Disney original...no seals | Aug-12-04 13:12 | 6313109729

- misaligned cd label on DVD leads me to believe BOOTLEG, took long to receive | Aug-19-04 20:16 | 6313008077

- Dvd was not in its ORIGINAL factory seal, Was in shrink wrap, BUYER BEWARE! | Jul-31-04 16:45 | 6311042716

As there are no photos for any of the items listed - only standard stock images - there is no way of being absolutely sure until you have the item in your hands. However, the fact that they have multiple copies of all these titles and that they all start at $19.99 does make it look very suspect:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... id=diphips

Has anyone on here bought a DVD from this seller?

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