Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

[Farerb]

Yeah Finn in TRoS was extremely annoying, but at least he was force sensitive so John Boyega is happy I guess. Like what did he expect Rey to do when she's in a middle of a battle.

[JeanGreyForever]

Yeah Finn in TRoS was extremely annoying, but at least he was force sensitive so John Boyega is happy I guess. Like what did he expect Rey to do when she's in a middle of a battle.

That's why he trash talked TLJ and preferred TROS even though his role had no substance and just involved him screaming Rey's name. All because he got to be force sensitive but the biggest joke is that it has no impact on the plot and literally 95% of general audiences didn't catch on because it's so vague. Everyone thought what he wanted to tell Rey was that he had feelings for her. And nobody even cared enough to see them as a couple lol to feel outraged by that.

That's why I'm actually glad Rose and him are not together as heartbreaking as it was that he treats her as badly as he did in the film (I bet John was responsible for this as well. Probably annoyed he got "stuck" with Kelly in a sideplot and didn't want anymore screentime with her than necessary). Rose deserves much better than Finn

The joke is on John if he thinks Jedi Finn is ever going to be see on the big screen. Literally nobody cares enough about Finn to see a film about him. A Disney+ show might have been possible for him but he's being a diva and refusing to do that. After his publicity today and the past few months (losing the script, trashtalking Disney), Disney probably will realize it's not a good idea to give him even that. I know for sure that even if he did get a Disney+ show by the slightest chance (and I really doubt he'll get even that now), I wouldn't watch it at all.

[Farerb]

Same. Not interested enough in Finn to watch it. TBH I didn't even watch The Mandalorian, but I know I should at some point.

[JeanGreyForever]

I'd recommend Mando. I didn't have any interest in it whatsoever because it wasn't the type of SW I tend to like but I really did end up falling in love with it. I'd highly suggest giving it a chance because you might like it a lot. And the whole season is out now.

[Farerb]

I might do that. I just need to find the time.

[Farerb]

[JeanGreyForever]

Boyega is probably pissed that he got supporting actor even though that very clearly is what he is.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

If Vader had turned back to the good side 10 years earlier (which in the timeline would be around the time of Solo), his force ghost would still look like Revenge of the Sith Anakin. George said that this is because Anakin died in that film and truly was consumed by Darth Vader.

Force ghost Obi-Wan interacted with the physical world by sitting on a log in ROTJ. Force ghost Luke does the same thing in this film alongside catching the lightsaber. And force ghost Yoda in TLJ sent lightning down upon the tree/library of Ahch-To.

I think the idea about the Sith is that not anyone can be a Sith. Snoke is dark side force user but not a Sith. A Sith would be properly christened as one (like Palpatine giving Anakin the title of Darth Vader in ROTS and going through some weird dark side ceremony). Snoke was just a creation of the Sith Eternal cult on Exegol (the planet Palpatine is on). Palpatine himself hosts all the spirits of the previous Sith before him and needs a new more powerful body, which would be Rey's or Ben's.

I still find it strange. If he had found back to the light side Anakin would have returned and had he lived ten more years, he should have become ten years older.

Obi-Wan didn't affect the log in any way, as far as I know. Yoda's lightning was the first time we have seen a ghost use its powers, but that was an indirect action. Luke actually grabbed the lightsaber and was holding it like he was made of flesh and blood.

Haven't visited Boyega's twitter account yet, but it seems he takes his career for granted and could end up destroying it. If so, he can't blame anyone but himself. Right now a solo movie about Babu Frik looks more likely than a Finn movie.

If you work for the dark side and know how to use the force, it shouldn't matter much if that person is a sith or not. Unless Snoke was nothing but an avatar, and his powers actually belonged to Palpatine. If that's what happened, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker have introduced avatars in the Star Wars universe, which should make the leaders almost impossible to kill if their real bodies are hidden away somewhere safe, and they can simply use another avatar if the old one gets destroyed.

Instant communication is nothing new in Star Wars, where you can speak with someone's hologram in real time even if they are lightyears away. Kylo Ren and Rey then did it using the force alone, and expanded it to matter. Letting your powers work through avatars several solar systems away from yourself shouldn't be unlikely.
And if not, the only other explanation is that you can make avatars with powers of their own (in that case, someone force sensitive persons could make themselves avatars much stronger than themselves).

The idea of hosting all the spirits and powers of those who came before you is something I once read in an old issue of the British comic Starblazer - Space Fiction Adventure in Pictures, and the Divine Shadow in the TV-show Lexx. It's a pretty simple idea, so it is fully possible for others to come up with the same thought without realizing it.

More about the movie; single ships are now able to blow up planets on their own. I wonder if this was done to prevent new death stars from being built in future movies. They are not needed anymore, and doing it again would make the audience think "not another death star".

Old news perhaps, but I found an article that could add a little extra info about the movie, even if much is just speculation: https://www.polygon.com/star-wars/2019/ ... ars-mortis

[JeanGreyForever]

Yeah, it doesn't really make sense in a scenario where Vader doesn't immediately die after being redeemed. Should have kept Sebastian Shaw for better consistency.

Obi-Wan sits on the log though so while it doesn't really affect it, he's still interacting with his surroundings. Interestingly enough, in the first draft of ROTJ, after Luke killed the Emperor, Obi-Wan would appear to him in flesh and blood and say that Luke killing the dark side brought him back to life. Then Anakin and Yoda would appear fully alive too.

I think it's really unprofessional to trash talk your employers and not just previous films you've done for them, but even the current one that is still playing. Boyega must think he's got nothing to lose with the films over and he's not coming back which is fine by me. Disney will never want to work with someone like that ever again because of how protective they are of their brand. They've never had this issue with WDAS, Pixar, or Marvel, John Lasseter aside. Speaking of Babu Frik, he's become really popular. I hope Disney does some interactive toys for him.

Dark side users are not Sith though. Sith have their own doctrine and ideology. Like Asajj Ventress from the Clone Wars proclaims herself Sith because she is a dark side user but Count Dooku rightfully puts her in her place and says she is not one. Now that we know that the Sith always have a master and apprentice and that when the apprentice kills the master, he absorbs all the knowledge and spirits of the Sith before him, it means you have to really be inducted into the Sith Order. So Snoke, being an artificial creation who acted as Palpatine by proxy (and only so Luke and Leia wouldn't sense that the real Palpatine is back) wouldn't count as one. He was just a means to an end to prepare Ben Solo to convert to the dark side and eventually become a Sith.

Kylo and Rey could do it because they were a Dyad so they had an automatic force bond. When it first happens in TLJ, Kylo even tells Rey that if she was doing this with her own powers to forge a connection, the effort would kill her. Even Luke and Leia, despite how strong their bond was, could only sense each other in times of great need or struggle. And Luke and Leia, as powerful as they are, both die from force projecting because the effort expands their consciousness so they become one with the force. I'm not sure Palpatine would be able to manifest an avatar from so far away, especially as weak as he was. I think Snoke was just programmed with false memories and a backstory and unwittingly manipulated or given orders without ever realizing he wasn't the top dog of the First Order. Snoke does repeat a lot of Palpatine's lines and dialogue though. However, Snoke knew Kylo and Rey were a Dyad whereas Palpatine doesn't until the end of TROS so that makes it difficult to say.

That's a neat parallel about hosting multiple spirits and powers in one body. Reminds me of the Avatar state in Avatar: The Last Airbender.

TLJ introduced that cannon with miniaturized Death Star tech so it makes sense that Palpatine would equip each of his ships with something similar but more powerful. Like how computers were these gigantic things that took up whole rooms and now we have compact computers in the form of cell phones.

Thanks for posting that article. It's an interesting theory and I've been reading variations of it for some time with a lot of people thinking Palpatine wasn't the big bad but the Dark Side was and it was manifesting itself in his form.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

The idea of Obi-Wan, Anakin and Yoda suddenly popping up in the flesh at the end of the Return of the Jedi, and then joining the dancing and celebration in the ewoks village would be weird, and probably not a good decision.

Should they make another sequel with the same actors, they could refer to Finn to explain his most likely absence. Like "Did you ever find out what Finn was trying to tell you, Rey?". "No, the rancor ate him on that disastrous mission before he had the chance to finished the sentence. Probably nothing important."

If a dark side user is a sith or not is not that important. What counts is their strength. In Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones, they use Boba Fett clones to produce a giant army. They are no able to create artificial dark side users. So a large army of Snoke clones, just as powerful, more muscular and programmed to be 100% joyal would be unstoppable.

In The Last Jedi, Snoke tells Rey; "Come closer, child". Based on what we now know, she could actually be at least twice his age.

Yes, communicating directly across the galaxy would kill most force users. But the siths and their followers seems to have always tried to find loopholes and shortcuts, like trying to cheat death. For all we know they could find a way in the future, assuming there are still someone left. And personally I doubt every single one of them would come together at the same place at the same time.

If they can genetically grow someone like Snoke, something that can control the force, who knows what other experiments they have been doing.

Besides, I wonder what would have happened had Rey killed Palpatine before Kylo Ren showed up, but calmly, without hate and anger.

And if the First Order suspected a spy among their midst, Kylo Ren could just have used his powers when interrogating them one by one. The inner circle does not consist of that many individuals. It even looks like he is suspecting general Hux, and would be the most logical place to start.

[JeanGreyForever]

It's because of that old ROTJ draft that a lot of people thought that the title for this film might mean that Luke will come back to life. I think that was mainly TLJ haters who were peeved that he was killed off.

Lol, I wouldn't mind that route of killing him off. John Boyega said he would only come back if Daisy and Oscar will and Oscar has made it very clear that he isn't interested in working with Disney anymore after calling them "overlords." And John's statement that he refuses to be Disney Plussed was probably noted by Disney as well.

I just hope we get some sort of Episode X or spinoff film that resolves Rey and Ben's storyline and brings him back to life or from the World Between Worlds or wherever. While the film is getting a lot of flack online, I think the general consensus is that most people would be more forgiving if it wasn't for that rushed ending which kills Ben off, leaves no time for Rey to grieve him, and he isn't even mentioned ever again. Rey's own ending is super ambiguous and frankly depressing considering it's exactly how she started off in these films, alone on a desert planet, so it seems a lot of people need closure between the two lovers. I can only think that Disney purposefully made such a vague ending which doesn't really tell us about the state of the galaxy because they plan on addressing all this later in a future installment. And Rey and Ben are the two most popular characters by far so it's easy to assume that Disney felt they could justify a future film or series.

I'm assuming that creating clones of force sensitive users may not be as easy as cloning a normal human being (I know clones of Jedi and Sith existed in the EU though, including Palpatine's cloned bodies). Hence, why Palpatine doesn't create an army of Snokes. Probably it took all those decades he was in hiding to create the one Snoke they had and the other ones we saw in clone vats could have been failed attempts or backups they painstakingly made. Honestly, they need to clean up a lot of this Snoke-Palpatine stuff.

Lol, that's hilarious that you pointed out that Rey might be 2x the age of Snoke. In his mind, he's been around for generations and was old enough to witness the fall of the Republic and the dawn of the Empire, so I suppose we should count his age in Snoke years.

Maybe the Sith Eternal were able to create some sort of link between Palpatine and Snoke so that Snoke could channel Palpatine and Palpatine will assume control whenever necessary. Like in his interactions with Kylo Ren.

I wonder if Snoke could also be the force experiment that Palpatine alludes to his old master Darth Plagueis having created in ROTS. Everyone's first assumption was that Anakin was a creation of Plagueis or Palpatine but what if Snoke was really what Plagueis ended up creating, a powerful force sensitive creature.

Yeah, Rey doesn't seem very angry at Palpatine when she's about to kill him. My headcanon is that to become a Sith, one would have to kill their master out of anger OR they would have to willingly accept their fate and chose to be the new host body. Rey's anger might have dissipated but Palpatine goads her into making this choice to save her friends. So as a result, Rey willingly chooses to become a Sith and this is what makes her initiation intact, regardless of her lack of anger at that point.

Kylo doesn't found out about the spy until after Palpatine is back and at that point, he's probably got more pressing issues, otherwise you have a point. Especially since Palpatine wants Rey dead so Kylo has to convince Rey to join him so together they can defeat him once and for all. Keep in mind that the opening crawl says that Kylo was especially threatened by Palpatine's broadcast and was devoting all his time and resources to finding Palpatine. A lot of the opening scenes establishing this were cut though.

[DisneyJedi]

I just checked John Boyega’s Twitter and I don’t see anything that could particularly condemn his career or damning against Lucasfilm or Disney.

Also, in light of the whole FinnPoe dynamic, I don’t know why people are so obsessed with seeing them hook up romantically. I’m not against the whole idea of them in a romantic relationship, mind you. However, I don’t see anything between the two that screams “romance”. Bromance/friendship, yes, but not romance.

[Farerb]

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancra ... urce_that/

[Rumpelstiltskin]

If dead jedis had the ability to come back to life, death would lose all its meaning for a jedi.

The ending looks more like a new beginning than an actual ending. Before Luke embark on his journey in the original Star Wars, he is watching the sunset of the twin suns, just like Rey does.

The thing with Snoke is that he was not a clone, but an original creation built from scratch. A clone is as we know a copy of someone already existing. But if he was the first of his kind, a creature with artificial memories and the ability to use the force, it would take lot more time to grow something like that in the lab.
But eventually they obviously succeeded, and with the problems solved, it should be easier to repeat in the future. And if they clone their own creations, it should be even easier. So creating an army of them should not be impossible. The main reason why that is not happening is probably because it would make the enemy too strong. If you have an army where every single soldier can kill you with his mind, how do you defeat them? That could be a challenge for the scriptwriters.
(And what if they could crack the problem of the force dyad, perhaps producing them artificially as well, after witnessing how strong such a connection can be? Or a force triad, or a whole network of them.)

If the definition of a sith is an individual that hosts all its predecessors, it means that at some point, there was a first sith, which contained zero predecessors. Makes me also curious if there is an upper limit for how many predecessors a body can host. Now when they are all dead, they have to start all over again. So if you once more gets a first sith, why not more than one? Three siths this time, where each one find their own successor. Or they could be fighting each others for dominance. I don't know in details how the force works.

The siths were also an offshoot of the jedis. What if more than one type of offshoot is possible?

Must confess I don't remember much from the prequels, but if Palpatine talked about force experiments, it could have been Snoke. Such an achievement has a lot of future potential.
I've also seen this movie only once, and didn't think if the "what ifs" before a couple of days later, so if I saw it again there it would probably answer at least some of the questions.

I choose to believe that Rey is a little wiser than believing she could have saved her friends if she willingly became a new sith host. For good or worse, we'll never find out. It would also have been interesting to find out how it happens; does it looks like some force ghost that leaves the old body and enters a new one? If it is, then it can live without a body for at least a short time, but probably not long before it explodes or implodes or something.

(And a little nitpicking: I'm not sure if the huge waves between the ruins of the death star and the coast is possible. The death star is blocking the waves from the ocean, and yet they are as tall and huge as they are.)

Also, in light of the whole FinnPoe dynamic, I don’t know why people are so obsessed with seeing them hook up romantically.

For me it seems like the whole thing have mutated into an escalating meta-discussion where the two sides are throwing straw men at each others while others in the middle are screaming from their lungs that everybody needs to shut up. Which is why I don't bother about the whole thing.

[JeanGreyForever]

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancra ... urce_that/

This has been gaining traction but it seems like a lot of BS. I don't blame JJ Abrams would lose control of the film like that or that Disney would purposefully tank Star Wars to put an end to DC/Warner Brothers.

Also the fact that this guy claimed that JJ wanted to include prequel planets in this film is the biggest takeaway that this is made up and catering to the unhappy fans.

I just checked John Boyega’s Twitter and I don’t see anything that could particularly condemn his career or damning against Lucasfilm or Disney.

Also, in light of the whole FinnPoe dynamic, I don’t know why people are so obsessed with seeing them hook up romantically. I’m not against the whole idea of them in a romantic relationship, mind you. However, I don’t see anything between the two that screams “romance”. Bromance/friendship, yes, but not romance.

It was his Instagram comments. There are pictures and videos on the previous page of the vulgar stuff he posted.

[JeanGreyForever]

If dead jedis had the ability to come back to life, death would lose all its meaning for a jedi.

The ending looks more like a new beginning than an actual ending. Before Luke embark on his journey in the original Star Wars, he is watching the sunset of the twin suns, just like Rey does.

The thing with Snoke is that he was not a clone, but an original creation built from scratch. A clone is as we know a copy of someone already existing. But if he was the first of his kind, a creature with artificial memories and the ability to use the force, it would take lot more time to grow something like that in the lab.
But eventually they obviously succeeded, and with the problems solved, it should be easier to repeat in the future. And if they clone their own creations, it should be even easier. So creating an army of them should not be impossible. The main reason why that is not happening is probably because it would make the enemy too strong. If you have an army where every single soldier can kill you with his mind, how do you defeat them? That could be a challenge for the scriptwriters.
(And what if they could crack the problem of the force dyad, perhaps producing them artificially as well, after witnessing how strong such a connection can be? Or a force triad, or a whole network of them.)

If the definition of a sith is an individual that hosts all its predecessors, it means that at some point, there was a first sith, which contained zero predecessors. Makes me also curious if there is an upper limit for how many predecessors a body can host. Now when they are all dead, they have to start all over again. So if you once more gets a first sith, why not more than one? Three siths this time, where each one find their own successor. Or they could be fighting each others for dominance. I don't know in details how the force works.

The siths were also an offshoot of the jedis. What if more than one type of offshoot is possible?

Must confess I don't remember much from the prequels, but if Palpatine talked about force experiments, it could have been Snoke. Such an achievement has a lot of future potential.
I've also seen this movie only once, and didn't think if the "what ifs" before a couple of days later, so if I saw it again there it would probably answer at least some of the questions.

I choose to believe that Rey is a little wiser than believing she could have saved her friends if she willingly became a new sith host. For good or worse, we'll never find out. It would also have been interesting to find out how it happens; does it looks like some force ghost that leaves the old body and enters a new one? If it is, then it can live without a body for at least a short time, but probably not long before it explodes or implodes or something.

(And a little nitpicking: I'm not sure if the huge waves between the ruins of the death star and the coast is possible. The death star is blocking the waves from the ocean, and yet they are as tall and huge as they are.)

Yeah, it's a good thing Lucas didn't go that route. It especially wouldn't make sense if Alec Guinness' Obi-Wan or Sebastian Shaw's Anakin were alive again at the end of ROTJ but by the time of the ST, they wouldn't be there because their actors had passed away.

That could be the case if they weren't making such a big deal out of this being the end of the saga.

There's a 30 year gap between ROTJ and TFA so it makes sense that in that time, they could have created their own Snoke. I think clone bodies tend to degenerate super quickly in the EU so even when Palpatine kept trying to come back in clone bodies, they weren't able to contain his essence and they would die out quickly. So this might be an issue with the Snoke clones that they can't be sustained for very long. Maybe even the Snoke we see was constantly being swapped out by a new one because its physical body kept dying.

The Force Dyad is a super rare phenemenon that hasn't been seen in generations and would be innate to two individuals linked through the Force. I can't imagine that is something that can be cloned or reproduced.

Supposedly D&D were supposed to make their film trilogy on the origin of the Jedi. They've been sacked now but maybe someone else will continue their plans and if it's about the origin of the Jedi, we can bet that the origin of the Sith will be included as well. I don't know about the rest of your questions though. I imagine like how Rey was able to channel all the Jedi before her, Palpatine was doing something similar with all the Sith spirits before him and that might also be the only reason he was still alive, since the Sith spirits were sustaining his presence in the physical world.

It's possible that something beyond Sith and Jedi exist like a Grey Jedi or something else entirely. However, it would be odd that we've never heard of any such thing in all the lore so far.

Palpatine says that his Sith master used to do force experiments with him in ROTS (coincidentally, JJ said this was his fav scene from the prequels) so Snoke could potentially be that. A lot of people are saying that with rewatches of TROS, a lot of the film and its logic becomes more clear since with an initial viewing, you're still absorbing everything and this film is pretty fast-paced anyway.

I'm guessing Palpatine's spirit or some spiritual embodiment of the dark side would possess Rey. The early leaks said that Palpatine tried to possess Rey but she was too pure (since she didn't kill him) so he couldn't take her over and tried with Ben Solo instead. I would like to see the Sith act of succession onscreen as well.

I have no idea about the waves lol.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Future projects should give some of the answers about the clone thing and how long they'll last. Perhaps on of the goals could be to build an artificial body that is even stronger than a natural one.

What I found confusing with Snoke was that his head looked smashed. With a young body that shouldn't be an issue. It could have been intentionally, as a way to make him look like he's old enough to have been through more than one life threatening situation, or it could be a natural defect as a side effect of the process that created him.

I wondered why David Benioff and D.B Weiss' Star Wars project never happened. There are plenty of rumors out there, but few facts, so the rumors is all we have. Too bad we almost never hear it straight from the horse's mouth.

https://www.inverse.com/article/60608-s ... -fired-why

“There’s one gatekeeper when it comes to Star Wars and it’s Kathleen Kennedy,” says a veteran movie producer, who has worked with the studio chief. “If you rub Kathleen Kennedy the wrong way — in any way — you’re out. You’re done. A lot of these young, new directors want to come in and say, ‘I want to do this. I want to do that.’ A lot of these guys — Lord and Miller, Colin Trevorrow — got very rich, very fast and believed a lot of their own hype. And they don’t want to play by the rules. They want to do shit differently. And Kathleen Kennedy isn’t going to fuck around with that.”

The sith spirits needs a body, and everybody assumed Palpatine's body was destroyed. I was hoping we would learn how he survived. At least this time he seemed to be turned into dust.

Being a jedi is an exclusive thing, so incidences like the one that created the first sith must be rare. Don't know if it has been written somewhere regarding the force, but what if the dark side has nothing to do with the actual force, but the user of the force. Just like a lightsaber that is neither good or evil, but can be used for both. If you turn your back to the jedi way, there could be more than just one direction to choose. Some may disagree with the jedis, but still avoid going down the path of evil.

[DisneyJedi]

So as of right now, the movie has made an estimate of $428 million at the box office domestically with another $423 million in other countries, thus totaling it to $851 million worldwide. However, someone on Twitter claims it’s underperforming compared to The Last Jedi and Solo.

Against TLJ, I could see. But Solo? That one only made $213 million domestically against a $275 million budget and another $139 million in other countries, yet it still didn’t break even.

So the big question is, which is the true underperformer? Because it’s obviously not TROS, which I’m sure has broken even by now.

[JeanGreyForever]

Future projects should give some of the answers about the clone thing and how long they'll last. Perhaps on of the goals could be to build an artificial body that is even stronger than a natural one.

What I found confusing with Snoke was that his head looked smashed. With a young body that shouldn't be an issue. It could have been intentionally, as a way to make him look like he's old enough to have been through more than one life threatening situation, or it could be a natural defect as a side effect of the process that created him.

I wondered why David Benioff and D.B Weiss' Star Wars project never happened. There are plenty of rumors out there, but few facts, so the rumors is all we have. Too bad we almost never hear it straight from the horse's mouth.

https://www.inverse.com/article/60608-s ... -fired-why

“There’s one gatekeeper when it comes to Star Wars and it’s Kathleen Kennedy,” says a veteran movie producer, who has worked with the studio chief. “If you rub Kathleen Kennedy the wrong way — in any way — you’re out. You’re done. A lot of these young, new directors want to come in and say, ‘I want to do this. I want to do that.’ A lot of these guys — Lord and Miller, Colin Trevorrow — got very rich, very fast and believed a lot of their own hype. And they don’t want to play by the rules. They want to do shit differently. And Kathleen Kennedy isn’t going to fuck around with that.”

The sith spirits needs a body, and everybody assumed Palpatine's body was destroyed. I was hoping we would learn how he survived. At least this time he seemed to be turned into dust.

Being a jedi is an exclusive thing, so incidences like the one that created the first sith must be rare. Don't know if it has been written somewhere regarding the force, but what if the dark side has nothing to do with the actual force, but the user of the force. Just like a lightsaber that is neither good or evil, but can be used for both. If you turn your back to the jedi way, there could be more than just one direction to choose. Some may disagree with the jedis, but still avoid going down the path of evil.

Star Wars has always been iffy about cloning. We hear about the Clone Wars in ANH but we never get any context about it until AOTC which introduces cloning in the films. The EU introduced cloning with the Thrawn trilogy and Dark Empire.

The Visual Dictionary said that Snoke was purposefully given those deformities to make it more difficult for others to recognize what species he was since technically he had no species and was one-of-a-kind.

Some people say it's because of how GOT was received and Disney/Lucasfilm feared the toxic reception would follow D&D over to their Star Wars trilogy. It could also be what you posted.

According to the film editor, some scenes were deleted that gave more backstory on how Palpatine returned. They felt it was too much exposition.

I think that's what Ahsoka became after she left the Jedi but still served the light side of the force. However, I've never seen the animated TV shows so I don't really have all the information on that. What you said does exist just not in the films.

So as of right now, the movie has made an estimate of $428 million at the box office domestically with another $423 million in other countries, thus totaling it to $851 million worldwide. However, someone on Twitter claims it’s underperforming compared to The Last Jedi and Solo.

Against TLJ, I could see. But Solo? That one only made $213 million domestically against a $275 million budget and another $139 million in other countries, yet it still didn’t break even.

So the big question is, which is the true underperformer? Because it’s obviously not TROS, which I’m sure has broken even by now.

Yeah, no way it underperformed compared to Solob but that does seem to be the case against TLJ. I think there are some doubts now that TROS can pass it. TROS by itself wouldn't be considered a disappointment, but I'm sure Disney had higher projections for it especially since they refused to move the release date by six months to a year. I hope they realize what happens when they release an unfinished product that broke so much story lore and continuity and killed off the most beloved character. According to some sources, Disney is aware of how audiences reacted against Ben Solo's ending but it was too late for them to alter plans. They plan to keep him "alive" through books and comics and one day want to bring him back on the big screen, but that's up to Adam Driver.

[DisneyJedi]

To be honest, I think it was either incarceration or death for Kylo Ren/Ben when it comes to his character arc. He’s massacred hundreds of people, including his fellow Jedi and many innocent citizens, along with his own father. I know many people loved him and his arc, but they can’t just overlook his atrocities.

Also, what continuity was destroyed exactly?