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JeanGreyForever wrote:Wow, this forum doesn't let us write c-a-s-i-n-o?

The reason Lucas replaced the ghost of Anakin with the younger version is that in his head, Anakin died in ROTS. So that's why redeemed Anakin resembles his younger self and not Sebastian Shaw. Personally I am not a fan of Hayden Christensen, as an actor or a person, so I prefer Sebastian Shaw.

BTW John Boyega and Reylo have been trending today for all the wrong reasons. John Boyega made some sexist and vulgar comments about Rey on his Instagram today. When he was called out on it, he got prickly and decided to attack the Reylos (because surely only Reylos would be against sexism). So he's been posting all this hate towards Kylo Ren's character and Reylo in general to deflect on the sexism he's been called out for.
Maybe it is meant as a protection against spam, like posts that tells you how to get rich in no time if you just follow the link. Have you tried writing the word yourself?

The concept of erasing all the years that has passed since someone went over to the dark side, and restoring them how they looked before it happened, sounds a bit strange. What if Vader had returned to the good side ten years earlier? Would he still look the way he did when he turned a ghost, or would he look like a ten years older Hayden Christensen?

Another thing. I think this is the first time we have seen a force ghost being able to grab a physical object.

(Also interesting that the actor's name, Sebastian Shaw, is the same used by an X-Men villain)

I visited John Boyega's instagram account, but couldn't find the post. Perhaps he has deleted it. Either way, if he acts like a primadonna, I wouldn't bet that he will show up in future Star Wars movies. Unless he is given the Jar Jar Binks treatment.

Some more about the movie; if Palpatine and his people have learned how to mass produce siths like Snoke and other extremely powerful villains, these could be scattered all over the galaxy, unless they have decided to put all the eggs in one basked, which would have been very stupid. If that's what happened, we will never get rid of the siths if there is always a dozen new ones waiting to be born from their glass tubes.
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TBH I never respected him after hearing that he started talking badly about RJ and TLJ.
I think this kind of behavior is immature and not what you would expect from a public person (unless it's Trump). Like come on:
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Anyway acting like this would not get him far, he should give his Twitter account to publicists like a lot of famous people do.
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Not only did he tweet that but when people started to call him out on his comments, he literally started attacking them.

Here a fan tried to reason with John and look what he posted her in response. Totally disgusted with his boorish attitude.
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https://twitter.com/Navvai/status/1212221354470256640
Here is a video of many of the comments calling him out on Instagram, mostly women. In fact, I've noticed that mostly women are telling him his behavior was wrong and uncalled for while men are propping him up and see no wrong. This is just like Donald Trump and his locker room talk all over again and it's disheartening to see that we haven't progressed at all in 4 years.

Totally done with John Boyega and I hope Twitter's cancel culture makes sure he is out of a job. I doubt Disney will work with him again either considering everything he's done to them recently. For those who don't know, he was the only member of the cast and crew to lose his TROS script and it was literally sold online on Ebay before Disney was able to recover it. That gaff aside, he also said he would never do a Disney+ show and basically insulted, not only his employers, but also anyone who is doing a Disney+ show (like he's some high-quality actor when he does films like Pacific Rim 2). He made tone-deaf comments about people who leave social media because of harassment are weak even though this occurred to Kelly Marie Tran, his co-star. He also complained that he didn't like TLJ because he couldn't be on set with Daisy Ridley and it wasn't as fun...because you know, he was cast for this job to have fun and not actually work. Totally shameless attitude and I'm glad he's been exposed as the misogynist he is.

There were stories on Reddit that he's a major diva and his personal driver for TROS had a lot of bad stuff to say about him. I wasn't sure whether or not to believe all that, but now I seriously think it's in character for him.
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Rumpelstiltskin wrote: Maybe it is meant as a protection against spam, like posts that tells you how to get rich in no time if you just follow the link. Have you tried writing the word yourself?

The concept of erasing all the years that has passed since someone went over to the dark side, and restoring them how they looked before it happened, sounds a bit strange. What if Vader had returned to the good side ten years earlier? Would he still look the way he did when he turned a ghost, or would he look like a ten years older Hayden Christensen?

Another thing. I think this is the first time we have seen a force ghost being able to grab a physical object.

(Also interesting that the actor's name, Sebastian Shaw, is the same used by an X-Men villain)

I visited John Boyega's instagram account, but couldn't find the post. Perhaps he has deleted it. Either way, if he acts like a primadonna, I wouldn't bet that he will show up in future Star Wars movies. Unless he is given the Jar Jar Binks treatment.

Some more about the movie; if Palpatine and his people have learned how to mass produce siths like Snoke and other extremely powerful villains, these could be scattered all over the galaxy, unless they have decided to put all the eggs in one basked, which would have been very stupid. If that's what happened, we will never get rid of the siths if there is always a dozen new ones waiting to be born from their glass tubes.
I did try posting the word and it didn't work hence why I used dashes. That explanation might make sense though.

If Vader had turned back to the good side 10 years earlier (which in the timeline would be around the time of Solo), his force ghost would still look like Revenge of the Sith Anakin. George said that this is because Anakin died in that film and truly was consumed by Darth Vader.

Force ghost Obi-Wan interacted with the physical world by sitting on a log in ROTJ. Force ghost Luke does the same thing in this film alongside catching the lightsaber. And force ghost Yoda in TLJ sent lightning down upon the tree/library of Ahch-To.

Yeah, the Sebastian Shaw name is a nice coincidence.

I think the idea about the Sith is that not anyone can be a Sith. Snoke is dark side force user but not a Sith. A Sith would be properly christened as one (like Palpatine giving Anakin the title of Darth Vader in ROTS and going through some weird dark side ceremony). Snoke was just a creation of the Sith Eternal cult on Exegol (the planet Palpatine is on). Palpatine himself hosts all the spirits of the previous Sith before him and needs a new more powerful body, which would be Rey's or Ben's.
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I heard that he didn't like TLJ because he expected to be the male lead and for Finn to have romantic relationship with Rey. Also because he wasn't force sensitive, which they granted him in TRoS. Anyway, yeah he's a complete douchebag and I don't know why he allows himself to act that way. Nobody wants to work with a troublemaker, it's not like his an A list actor like Leonardo DiCaprio.
He should've just apologized respectfully and move on.
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He should've taken an example from Mark Hamil when he liked that infamous Rowling tweet.
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farerb wrote:I heard that he didn't like TLJ because he expected to be the male lead and for Finn to have romantic relationship with Rey. Also because he wasn't force sensitive, which they granted him in TRoS. Anyway, yeah he's a complete douchebag and I don't know why he allows himself to act that way. Nobody wants to work with a troublemaker, it's not like his an A list actor like Leonardo DiCaprio.
He should've just apologized respectfully and move on.
What's worse is that he even turned on the Stormpilot/FinnPoe fandom. The people who ship Finn and Poe have long looked towards John and Oscar because both actors shipped FinnPoe themselves. However, when John was going on and on about what Finn is going to sexually do to Rey, a FinnPoe asked him what about FinnPoe and John was gross enough to say that FinnPoe wasn't a real thing and it started with the fans. So sickening and hypocritical that he's backing out of this now. Oscar has been a huge proponent for Finn and Poe as a couple this whole time. In fact, in a recent interview, he even called Disney "overlords" because he kept trying to push for them as a gay couple and Disney refused so he's been super upset and heavily implied he's done with Disney. Keep in mind that Oscar has also won an award from the LGBT community for his work for them, not John. And now John has exposed his true colors that all along he thought his character should be with Rey and not Poe which is a huge slap in the face to the FinnPoe fandom he claimed he supported.

His anti Reylo tweets on Twitter are making it very clear how jealous he is of Adam Driver. How Adam Driver gets all the accolades for his performance and how he has the more successful movie career because every big time director wants to work with him and they are calling Adam the best actor of this generation. I don't feel bad for John at all with his attitude, especially after he threw Kelly Marie Tran to the wolves. And for an actor who claimed he can survive harassment online and isn't weak enough to leave, he's been blocking people back and forth on Instagram for calling him out.
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farerb wrote:He should've taken an example from Mark Hamil when he liked that infamous Rowling tweet.
What tweet is this?
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
farerb wrote:He should've taken an example from Mark Hamil when he liked that infamous Rowling tweet.
What tweet is this?
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1 ... 00033?s=19
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farerb wrote:
JeanGreyForever wrote: What tweet is this?
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1 ... 00033?s=19
OMG, that tweet disgusted me. I can't be a JK Rowling fan ever since I read that, but did Mark Hamill really like it? And did he apologize or explain why afterwards? I never saw his reaction to it.
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I also don't care for Rowling. She just want to seem "woke" while she doesn't really give a damn. She had an actual chance to make Dumbledore gay in the Text in Crimes of Grindelwald, but she didn't, so she's just faux woke and don't really care, kind of like Disney.
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Thanks for posting. I'm so glad Mark explained his actions and I don't blame him because someone without knowing the context of the tweet would assume the same. If I had read Rowling's tweet without hearing all the controversy over it, I would have assumed it as a pro-women tweet as well. Luckily, I was aware of Rowling's anti-trans bias for a few months now.

I agree about Rowling. The Dumbledore-Grindelwald romance has been practically sidelined and it's super subtle in the final film. She promises it'll get more intense in future films but I have no faith in her now.

Mark is a legend though and John Boyega is a footnote in Star Wars history. I don't know if you read my above post but pandering to FinnPoe ships only to throw them under the bus at the end of the day makes me wonder how homophobic he is.
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I read it and I dislike queerbaiting. Reminds me how Jennifer Morrison didn't like Swan Queen and the shippers while Lana Parilla supported it and them.

John is nowhere near the level of Adam Driver, both as an actor and as a person. Adam Driver really made me like Kylo Ren and I thought he was amazing in Marriage Story. I'm looking forward to his future projects and I'm sure he'll be successful. While I don't care about John Boyega. I actually don't expect him to succeed after Star Wars.
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farerb wrote:I read it and I dislike queerbaiting. Reminds me how Jennifer Morrison didn't like Swan Queen and the shippers while Lana Parilla supported it and them.

John is nowhere near the level of Adam Driver, both as an actor and as a person. Adam Driver really made me like Kylo Ren and I thought he was amazing in Marriage Story. I'm looking forward to his future projects and I'm sure he'll be successful. While I don't care about John Boyega. I actually don't expect him to succeed after Star Wars.
I didn't realize that Jennifer Morrison wasn't a fan of Swan Queen. I wonder if she openly talked about Killian and Emma (I forgot the ship name for them) together. I'm glad Lana supported Swan Queen though! She's a class act and always has been.

I didn't even care about John Boyega in Star Wars so I really doubt I'll care for him in any future film which I don't plan on watching anyway now. He's not very talented and his diva personality and tendency to trash talk his employers and projects will make no one want to work with him anyway.

Adam and Oscar have the biggest careers outside of SW already so I expect to see them go far. Daisy I hope will have a promising career ahead of her. I loved her in Murder on the Orient Express and Ophelia so I hope she doesn't fade away because she's a bright star. I also hope to see more Kelly Marie Tran in films. Rian Johnson seems to really like her so I would love for him to cast her in one of his next movies.
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I really like them too and hope for another successful film by Johnson with Kelly. Knives Out was great and I can see him doing a sequel with different characters.
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farerb wrote:I really like them too and hope for another successful film by Johnson with Kelly. Knives Out was great and I can see him doing a sequel with different characters.
Same. I hope for sure that Kelly would get a major role in it. Did you see his recent tweet in support of her?
https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/ ... 8334486528
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Yeah I saw it. I'm glad he supports her.
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I actually liked Finn and now I don't know if I can rewatch the films and make a distinction between the character and the actor. This is so depressing.
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farerb wrote:I actually liked Finn and now I don't know if I can rewatch the films and make a distinction between the character and the actor. This is so depressing.
He was never one of my favs but I liked in him TFA and TLJ. Now I don't think I have it in me to be forced to watch him onscreen.

In TROS he was especially annoying because all he did was shout Rey's name (someone on Twitter calculated it was at least 22 times) and insert himself in the Rey/Kylo scenes which are the most pivotal for the film. I was infuriated that during the Rey/Kylo showdown on Pasaana, Finn has to insert himself in the background and keep screaming for Rey. Then when Rey jumps from the Star Destroyer and leaps onto the Falcon with Finn although that moment isn't too bad. Then Finn having the audacity to keep telling people that he understands and knows Rey when Rey herself tells him that isn't the case. Finn comparing himself to Leia was especially sickening because Leia is an idol and a legend and Finn is a wannabe. At least in the Death Star scene, Finn trying to insert himself was pretty hilarious when he was literally force pushed aside so that moment made it all worth it.

I didn't particularly care for Finn feeling Rey's death either. Or the useless subplot of Finn trying to tell Rey something.
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