Disney's Divinity wrote:They probably will change her underwater design to cover her up more, although I'd rather they left it as it is. Belle's blue peasant dress and Aladdin's street rat outfits were both mostly the same in the live-action films, with slight differences. I'm guessing the wedding dress will probably look the most different of her various outfits.
I’ve been thinking the same. The user @theartistjoshbeames on Instagram came up with some fan art that I could see being something along the lines of what we get. I don’t think they’ll cover her but I can’t see them going with a clamshell bra.
Sotiris wrote:Oh, no! Now this is a casting decision worthy of a hashtag.
Of all the actors rumored for the role, Harry Styles is the one I liked the least. I saw him in Dunkirk and I remember I thought he was OK there, but now I barely remember anything about his character, so I guess he didn't impress me much there either.
Sotiris wrote:We also have confirmation there'll only be one new song. I'm guessing it's going to be either an Eric solo or an Ariel/Eric duet.
What happened to the rest of the songs they were planning to add?
I'm glad to hear that. The strong backlash her casting received online made me sad. I know it wasn’t personally directed at her, but like farerb, I was worried about her and how she could take it.
I seriously hope that's not the angle they're going for. Interracial couples in real life already get a buttload of shit from both sides and they don't need it here.
I'm tired of Disney trying so hard to be woke and progressive but they're still terrified of giving us a Man of Color / White Woman romance.
I always thought Harry Styles being considered was a joke along the lines of Ariana Grande being considered for Ariel. Not pleased with this development at all.
I agree that the optics of this won't look good. I hope they go TPATF route and make him a different ethnicity or even ambiguously ethnic.
We’re a dyad in the Force. Two that are one. "I offered you my hand once. You wanted to take it." - Kylo Ren "I did want to take your hand. Ben's hand." - Rey
So maybe I'm ignorant, but what's so wrong with a black woman/white man couple? Some of the comments posted here directed at a real life couple would be disturbing.
thedisneyspirit wrote:So maybe I'm ignorant, but what's so wrong with a black woman/white man couple? Some of the comments posted here directed at a real life couple would be disturbing.
The idea is that the story/film already gets criticized for a woman giving up her voice and altering her body all for a man. Making the woman black gives it that extra racial dimension of a black woman doing all of this to please a white man. The optics of that would paint her in a servile position, almost akin to slavery.
Anyway a black woman/white man is not progressive at all for Disney because we've seen this dynamic in several of their films, twice alone in the live-action BATB. Making the male lead another ethnicity (whether from Latin America or from Asia since both are popular choices for him) would make the racial elements of the aforementioned dynamic a little less icky.
We’re a dyad in the Force. Two that are one. "I offered you my hand once. You wanted to take it." - Kylo Ren "I did want to take your hand. Ben's hand." - Rey
teej wrote:
I’ve been thinking the same. The user @theartistjoshbeames on Instagram came up with some fan art that I could see being something along the lines of what we get. I don’t think they’ll cover her but I can’t see them going with a clamshell bra.
I like that better than if it was just a strap, like the way Ariel looks as a child in Ariel's Beginning. At least some fabric would be moving around, which could be fun visually.
thedisneyspirit wrote: I seriously hope that's not the angle they're going for. Interracial couples in real life already get a buttload of shit from both sides and they don't need it here.
I'm tired of Disney trying so hard to be woke and progressive but they're still terrified of giving us a Man of Color / White Woman romance.
I remember there were some comments / criticism of Naveen around the time TP&TF was first released (in the press, not from members on this forum), basically that some viewers were disappointed because they felt that Disney decided a black man wasn't "worthy" of being a prince... I love Naveen personally (mostly because of Bruno Campos' vocal performance), but I understand where the bitterness comes from. I wish Disney would make another animated fairytale with an all or primarily black cast again. We haven't really had a straight up fairytale romance like Tangled and TP&TF since 2009-10 anyway. Moana and Frozen have the same vibe as the other films in the DP line, but they aren't really romance-focused films to me. Dragon Empire isn't going to be either.
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
I guess this remake is going to make Cinderella (1997)-type of genetic sense.
Only a day after the news of Harry Styles being in talks to play Prince Eric in The Little Mermaid live-action adaptation broke, we are now hearing from a source close to the project that Javier Bardem is in talks to play Ariel’s father King Triton.
We are also hearing that the film will focus more on Ariel’s (Halle Bailey) mother and that Disney is in the process of casting for that role. In addition to Bailey, Melissa McCarthy, Jacob Tremblay and Awkwafina are also in talks to star and voice Ursula the Sea Witch, Flounder the Guppy and Scuttle the Seagull.
We have heard multiple names for the role of King Triton, but our sources say it is indeed Bardem in talks. It should be noted that this source also let us know last week about Harry Styles.
Well, now that an colored Ariel has been confirmed, I'll paste what I previously wrote in another thread; To be honest, I don't mind it an colored Ariel by itself, but I think it would've made more sense to have her in color in a stage play or so than in a movie. Due to that Ariel was meant to be Caucasian from the get-goo and the notion of giving her color seems contrived for politically correct reasons. A movie is going to last longer than a stage play. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind giving the Princesses colors, but it has to make sense and not just to be shoehorned in for PC-reasons. As for Harry Styles as our Prince Eric, he wouldn't been my first choice, but he's not a disastrous choice either.
I think Styles is handsome.... Still, I wouldn't have minded someone like Tyler Posey, who is really really cute and has black hair.
Anyway, I've only seen bits and pieces of Before Night Falls and No Country For Old Men over the years; he seemed like a good actor based on those + PotC: Dead Men Tell No Tales. Interesting choice for Triton. I suppose they're going to include the idea of Triton's wife being killed by humans here to soften the character's xenophobia. :/
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Sotiris wrote:I guess this remake is going to make Cinderella (1997)-type of genetic sense.
Only a day after the news of Harry Styles being in talks to play Prince Eric in The Little Mermaid live-action adaptation broke, we are now hearing from a source close to the project that Javier Bardem is in talks to play Ariel’s father King Triton.
We are also hearing that the film will focus more on Ariel’s (Halle Bailey) mother and that Disney is in the process of casting for that role. In addition to Bailey, Melissa McCarthy, Jacob Tremblay and Awkwafina are also in talks to star and voice Ursula the Sea Witch, Flounder the Guppy and Scuttle the Seagull.
We have heard multiple names for the role of King Triton, but our sources say it is indeed Bardem in talks. It should be noted that this source also let us know last week about Harry Styles.
Darren Criss would have been my choice for Eric, he's got the looks and vocal chops for the part. I don't know much about Harry Styles and his acting abilities.
As for Javier Bardem as Triton and potential racial implications... There's a theory online that all daughters of Triton could be of different ethnicities, representing the Seven Seas (oceans), so their physical appearance would match the geographical location of each Sea. In any case, as they are fictional magical characters, I don't think it should matter much.
Mooky wrote:There's a theory online that all daughters of Triton could be of different ethnicities, representing the Seven Seas (oceans), so their physical appearance would match the geographical location of each Sea. In any case, as they are fictional magical characters, I don't think it should matter much.
While it's very likely Triton's daughters will be of different races/ethnicities, I think it will be done at random. I doubt they're going to put any thought into it. Personally, I don't like it when movies ignore genetics and the laws of inheritance. It's distracting and makes it harder to suspend disbelief. Just because a piece of fiction has fantastical elements in it, doesn't mean anything goes. It still needs to adhere to our material reality in some fundamental way and if not it needs to create its own set of rules that are believable and consistent.
Btw, I hope my post didn’t come across snippy, @Mooky. I only meant that I don’t really think of the merfolk in the Disney film as innately magical, although I know what you meant about mermaids being magical creatures as far as mythology goes, like unicorns and so on.
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Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
DisneyFan09 wrote:Well, now that an colored Ariel has been confirmed, I'll paste what I previously wrote in another thread; To be honest, I don't mind it an colored Ariel by itself, but I think it would've made more sense to have her in color in a stage play or so than in a movie. Due to that Ariel was meant to be Caucasian from the get-goo and the notion of giving her color seems contrived for politically correct reasons. A movie is going to last longer than a stage play. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind giving the Princesses colors, but it has to make sense and not just to be shoehorned in for PC-reasons. As for Harry Styles as our Prince Eric, he wouldn't been my first choice, but he's not a disastrous choice either.
Are we really using the term "colored" in 2019 to describe black people? I literally can't even with this stupid thread.
Mooky wrote:Darren Criss would have been my choice for Eric, he's got the looks and vocal chops for the part. I don't know much about Harry Styles and his acting abilities.
I saw Darren Criss during The Little Mermaid Hollywood Bowl event in 2016 when he sung the role of Prince Eric, and unfortunately he was the weakest link. I haven't seen Harry Styles act, but hopefully he's good!
DisneyFan09 wrote:Well, now that an colored Ariel has been confirmed, I'll paste what I previously wrote in another thread; To be honest, I don't mind it an colored Ariel by itself, but I think it would've made more sense to have her in color in a stage play or so than in a movie. Due to that Ariel was meant to be Caucasian from the get-goo and the notion of giving her color seems contrived for politically correct reasons. A movie is going to last longer than a stage play. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind giving the Princesses colors, but it has to make sense and not just to be shoehorned in for PC-reasons. As for Harry Styles as our Prince Eric, he wouldn't been my first choice, but he's not a disastrous choice either.
Are we really using the term "colored" in 2019 to describe black people? I literally can't even with this stupid thread.
He's not from America, why don't you try to tell him it's not a correct term instead of acting all uppity and snotty about it? The black people won't like you, either.
Of all the actors rumored for the role, Harry Styles is the one I liked the least. I saw him in Dunkirk and I remember I thought he was OK there, but now I barely remember anything about his character, so I guess he didn't impress me much there either.
I'm guessing it's going to be either an Eric solo or an Ariel/Eric duet.
I seriously hope that's not the angle they're going for. Interracial couples in real life already get a buttload of shit from both sides and they don't need it here.
