Gigantic

[thedisneyspirit]

Americans criticizing Spanish culture... As if they don't need to go be preachy elsewhere.

[DisneyFan97]

I would LOVE a Disney movie of Midsummer's Night's Dream.

I know they did a short bassed on it in the 20s. But i still want an actually movie !

I actually have an idea for a Disney version of the princess and the pea.
This version gives a better explanation for the pea test.

The prince is hypersensitive himself doe autism and he wants to find a princess that's like him.

Of course maybe you won't call it autism . This being a medieval fantasy kingdom. But it's suggested in subtle ways and it's there in the subtext.

Like how noone says Elsa has anxiety in Frozen because the term wasn't invented yet. But she clearly has.

[unprincess]

that reminds me I was watching Fantastic Beast Crimes of Grindelwald and Newt was soooo written as if he was on the higher end of the spectrum, right? Of course they never mention it b/c... I don't even think they knew what autism was back in the 1920s? Id similarly love to see a Disney lead who is written as if on the spectrum...

Andrew Chesworth: I remember a lot of passion about 'what would the Johnny Appleseed / Mary Blair whimsy feel like in modern CG?' That was super exciting, leaning into fairy tale cartoony and pre-Sleeping Beauty Milt Kahl.

wow that's sounds neat, though I wonder if it was looking too different form the usual standard generic Pixar CGI look of most big studio CGI films and that's why it was canned(like how they canned the earlier painterly version of Tangled.)

[RyGuy]

I would LOVE a Disney movie of Midsummer's Night's Dream.

They kind of did that with Strange Magic. Even though that movie wasn’t that good, I can’t see them tackling the story again any time soon.

[DisneyFan09]

Well, now with those tweets confirmed, it made me even more bummed out that Gigantic was cancelled! Perhaps it had the potential to be truly amazing or reworked into something that would've worked better.

[DisneyEra]

Well, this is it. August 24, 2019, Judgement day for Walt Disney Animation Studios. They can either present to the world new original features going in to the 2020s, or just follow Dreamworks playbook from the late 2000s. On twitter ALL they're asking for is Zootopia 2. And that's all I believe they're going to announce. Show more stuff for Frozen 2, then have a big showing for Zoo 2. Maybe some new short films? Even if by some miracle, they announce an original feature, it'll likely be cancelled within a year. Since Gigantic got canned, they have no intention doing anything original at WDAS anymore. Maybe some day....

[JeanGreyForever]

The animation style for Gigantic, especially the Mary Blair parts, sounded promising but being compared to Tangled makes me think the final product wouldn't be very appealing.

[D82]

Andrew Chesworth: I loved this version of Disney's Gigantic and where those early screenings were headed. Definitely one that tragically slipped away. Fantastic mix of modern Tangled and 1940s Sleepy Hollow-era Disney influencing the artistic conversations.

Q: How far into production was Gigantic?

Andrew Chesworth: Not much beyond story reels, vis dev, and CG character testing. There were several iterations of nearly full-length screenings, some with radical changes.

Q: Are you in a position to tell what went wrong with the production? Story issues?

Andrew Chesworth: Not in the know or the position, just someone who saw an early screening and liked where it was going. I was at TAIKO Studios while they were still making changes and announcing new leadership on the project.

Source: https://twitter.com/A_Chesworth/status/ ... 6666885120

Andrew Chesworth: I remember a lot of passion about 'what would the Johnny Appleseed / Mary Blair whimsy feel like in modern CG?' That was super exciting, leaning into fairy tale cartoony and pre-Sleeping Beauty Milt Kahl.

Jessica Mahon: I definitely got that feeling from the little I saw, yeah. Imagine that in 3D, you know? Awesome.

Andrew Chesworth: There's so much charm in these environments and the Ollie Johnston animation. The ratios on Johnny are so much fun. I remember 'Gigantic' even had some of the conquistador flavor, echoing but critically commenting on the pioneer flavor of the old cartoons.

Source: https://twitter.com/A_Chesworth/status/ ... 3097946112

All that sounded really promising. I wish they could revive the project someday.

I just saw some animation tests and scenes from Dreamworks' cancelled movies BOO and LARKINS within the last week. I hope we see some Gigantic goodies in the near future.

I hope that too.

Well, this is it. August 24, 2019, Judgement day for Walt Disney Animation Studios. They can either present to the world new original features going in to the 2020s, or just follow Dreamworks playbook from the late 2000s. On twitter ALL they're asking for is Zootopia 2. And that's all I believe they're going to announce. Show more stuff for Frozen 2, then have a big showing for Zoo 2. Maybe some new short films? Even if by some miracle, they announce an original feature, it'll likely be cancelled within a year. Since Gigantic got canned, they have no intention doing anything original at WDAS anymore. Maybe some day....

Don't lose hope, DisneyEra! We know that they're at least working on one original feature, Dragon Empire. They'll probably announce at least that one at the D23 Expo. I don't think that film will be cancelled considering how important the Asian market is now to Hollywood.

[DisneyEra]

Well, this is it. August 24, 2019, Judgement day for Walt Disney Animation Studios. They can either present to the world new original features going in to the 2020s, or just follow Dreamworks playbook from the late 2000s. On twitter ALL they're asking for is Zootopia 2. And that's all I believe they're going to announce. Show more stuff for Frozen 2, then have a big showing for Zoo 2. Maybe some new short films? Even if by some miracle, they announce an original feature, it'll likely be cancelled within a year. Since Gigantic got canned, they have no intention doing anything original at WDAS anymore. Maybe some day....

Don't lose hope, DisneyEra! We know that they're at least working on one original feature,
Dragon Empire. They'll probably announce at least that one at the D23 Expo. I don't think that film will be cancelled considering how important the Asian market is now to Hollywood.[/quote]

I hope so. Nothing for Dragon Empire has leaked in over a year, so i'm assuming that that feature was just an rumor/idea that never gained traction, & word of it got out to the press. It had no impact, as no one cared or was interested in it. Much like Gigantic. How ironic, 2 Original features, no one cares

[D82]

I hope so. Nothing for Dragon Empire has leaked in over a year, so i'm assuming that that feature was just an rumor/idea that never gained traction, & word of it got out to the press. It had no impact, as no one cared or was interested in it. Much like Gigantic. How ironic, 2 Original features, no one cares

It's true that sequels like Frozen 2 or the possible Zootopia 2 seem to generate more excitement than original ones like Gigantic or Dragon Empire, but they can only make so many sequels of each title until people become tired of them. Even in this era of sequels and remakes, they need to make original films every once in a while, otherwise they would run out of properties they can make sequels of. So, I think there's no risk for WDAS to do only sequels from now on. Anyway, I understand you want more original movies and less sequels from Disney, I want that too.

[DisneyEra]

I hope so. Nothing for Dragon Empire has leaked in over a year, so i'm assuming that that feature was just an rumor/idea that never gained traction, & word of it got out to the press. It had no impact, as no one cared or was interested in it. Much like Gigantic. How ironic, 2 Original features, no one cares

It's true that sequels like Frozen 2 or the possible Zootopia 2 seem to generate more excitement than original ones like Gigantic or Dragon Empire, but they can only make so many sequels of each title until people become tired of them. Even in this era of sequels and remakes, they need to make original films every once in a while, otherwise they would run out of properties they can make sequels of. So, I think there's no risk for WDAS to do only sequels from now on. Anyway, I understand you want more original movies and less sequels from Disney, I want that too.

I know at the end of the day, all Disney cares about is money. Everything else is irrelevant, the billions of revenue they make is all that matters, & original features is not the modern way to accomplish that. I'm at a point now where I just want 1 more original feature from WDAS. Live-Action remakes & sequels will define Disney in the 2020s, but if they can just release one more original feature, I'll be good with that. This will all be settled on August 24. I Hope.

[Farerb]

They really only had Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II, so I don't know where this pessimism is coming from. Since I think they are done with Ralph films, their only options for successful franchises are Frozen and Zootopia and they can't profit much from sequels for two films only, they need original ip and they know it, even Frozen and Zootopia started out as original films. They'll try to find their next Frozen and Zootopia.

[DisneyEra]

They really only had Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II, so I don't know where this pessimism is coming from. Since I think they are done with Ralph films, their only options for successful franchises are Frozen and Zootopia and they can't profit much from sequels for two films only, they need original ip and they know it, even Frozen and Zootopia started out as original films. They'll try to find their next Frozen and Zootopia.

With sequels to Frozen & Zoo, Disney will bank over $2 Billion worldwide. Also, these are the dates for WDAS via 2020:

November 25, 2020

November 24, 2021

November 23, 2022

Zoo 2 is automatic, could possibly be the 2020 release. 2021 could be the lone original feature, but most likely will be cancelled for another live-action remake or what not. The 2022 slot maybe will be Moana 2? Tangled/BH6 have TV series, which means Moana is the only Revival feature untouched at this moment, yeah, her sequel could be next.

[Farerb]

They really only had Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II, so I don't know where this pessimism is coming from. Since I think they are done with Ralph films, their only options for successful franchises are Frozen and Zootopia and they can't profit much from sequels for two films only, they need original ip and they know it, even Frozen and Zootopia started out as original films. They'll try to find their next Frozen and Zootopia.

With sequels to Frozen & Zoo, Disney will bank over $2 Billion worldwide. Also, these are the dates for WDAS via 2020:

November 25, 2020

November 24, 2021

November 23, 2022

Zoo 2 is automatic, could possibly be the 2020 release. 2021 could be the lone original feature, but most likely will be cancelled for another live-action remake or what not. The 2022 slot maybe will be Moana 2?

I think if Zootopia 2 was to happen in 2020, it would have been announced by now. I think it'll be in 2022 or 2023.
Moana 2 will not happen, not when John Musker doesn't work at Disney anymore and we haven't heard anything from Ron Clements other than he's working on a book. Entering Moana into the Disney Princess franchise even suggest that Disney has no interest in making Moana a franchise like Frozen. I can see them developing a TV series for it but that's it and even that is unlikely since I don't think The Rock will be interested, and having Moana without Maui or a different voice actor for Maui is just not the same thing.
Disney isn't going to cancel an animated feature for a live action ine, they are completely different studios with their own project. The remakes aren't coming at the expanse of animated films. Disney always released one or two films a year and that's not going to change.
It actually takes time to develop and produce an animated film, Disney can't constantly make Frozen and Zootopia sequels unless they work on multiple films for each franchise at the same time and that is just a mess. There is a reason why it took 6 years to make Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen 2.

[DisneyEra]

With sequels to Frozen & Zoo, Disney will bank over $2 Billion worldwide. Also, these are the dates for WDAS via 2020:

November 25, 2020

November 24, 2021

November 23, 2022

Zoo 2 is automatic, could possibly be the 2020 release. 2021 could be the lone original feature, but most likely will be cancelled for another live-action remake or what not. The 2022 slot maybe will be Moana 2?

I think if Zootopia 2 was to happen in 2020, it would have been announced by now. I think it'll be in 2022 or 2023.
Moana 2 will not happen, not when John Musker doesn't work at Disney anymore and we haven't heard anything from Ron Clements other than he's working on a book. Entering Moana into the Disney Princess franchise even suggest that Disney has no interest in making Moana a franchise like Frozen. I can see them developing a TV series for it but that's it and even that is unlikely since I don't think The Rock will be interested, and having Moana without Maui or a different voice actor for Maui is just not the same thing.
Disney isn't going to cancel an animated feature for a live action ine, they are completely different studios with their own project. The remakes aren't coming at the expanse of animated films. Disney always released one or two films a year and that's not going to change.
It actually takes time to develop and produce an animated film, Disney can't constantly make Frozen and Zootopia sequels unless they work on multiple films for each franchise at the same time and that is just a mess. There is a reason why it took 6 years to make Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen 2.

No reason to announced Zoo 2 right now, Disney wants all attention on Frozen 2 for the moment. D23 will be the best time to officially announce that sequel. As for Moana 2, yeah John Musker doesn't work there anymore, but neither does Rich Moore, So if they replace him for Zoo 2, they'll just do the same for the Moana sequel. Also, WDAS is just slow when releasing Animated features. Pixar on the other hand will have put out 5 features from June 2016-June 2019: Dory, Cars 3, Coco, Incredibles 2 & Toy Story 4. Plus Onward & the June 2020 release! 2 original Pixar features in 90+days, Wow!

[Farerb]

Except Zootopia was more Byron Howard's creation and he still works at Disney. And Again - Moana is part of the Disney Princess franchise, it is not going to be a franchise on its own.
If they supposedly gonna announce Zootopia 2 in August (meaning before Frozen 2 is in theaters) then I don't see how it's different.

From 2016 till 2019 Disney has released 4 films, so it's one less film than what Pixar released, plus two originals vs one from Pixar. But for some reason Disney are the ones who want to make millions of sequels when they were the ones who put more original content than Pixar this past decade.

Pixar putting two films in one year is not new, Disney did the same in 2016, but you know those are two different teams working on two different films, it's not like they put extra work in order to release two films in one year.

[Farerb]

Also I don't think Pixar has faith in Onwards. The last time they released two films in one year was 2015 and we all know what they think about The Good Dinosaur. Onwards is going to be released in the same month as Mulan's remake, I wonder why?!?

I just really don't get this. Disney and Pixar both have released sequels in these two past years. Before that Disney has released only original content while Pixar had a sequel festival and Disney are the ones labeled as sequels money making machines while Pixar is labeled as the ones releasing "quality" content?

Pixar might have released more films than Disney this past decade - 11 films, while Disney only 9. However Pixar has released 7 sequels! and only 4 original films - one of them is viewed as a disappointment and the other as a complete failure, so they only released 2 critically and commercially successful original films while Disney released 6 successful original films! and only 3 sequels (and Winnie the Pooh barely counts).

[DisneyEra]

Also I don't think Pixar has faith in Onwards. The last time they released two films in one year was 2015 and we all know what they think about The Good Dinosaur. Onwards is going to be released in the same month as Mulan's remake, I wonder why?!?

I just really don't get this. Disney and Pixar both have released sequels in these two past years. Before that Disney has released only original content while Pixar had a sequel festival and Disney are the ones labeled as sequels money making machines while Pixar is labeled as the ones releasing "quality" content?

Pixar might have released more films than Disney this past decade - 11 films, while Disney only 9. However Pixar has released 7 sequels! and only 4 original films - one of them is viewed as a disappointment and the other as a complete failure, so they only released 2 critically and commercially successful original films while Disney released 6 successful original films! and only 3 sequels (and Winnie the Pooh barely counts).

Onward should do well. Frozen 2 will slay all the way through Feb, with only Spies in Disguise as the only other alternate. Have you heard of the 2020 sequels: Trolls World Tour & Minions 2: Rise of Gru!, that's even more unnecessary than Ralph breaks the Internet! At least Pixar relies that original features is the way forward, I hope WDAS follows suit after the Frozen sequel.

[Farerb]

Onward is going to compete with Mulan. Other than Onward we don't actually know what Pixar's plan for the future. I mean we do know they'll have two unpromising films - one from Mark Andrews, the guy who butchered Brave. And another one about FC Barcelona (seriously?). Regardless not knowing what Disney plans != Nothing is planned. In all honesty I'll take Latina princess musical and Zootopia 2 over a film by a hack and a film about a soccer club.

[DisneyEra]

Onward is going to compete with Mulan. Other than Onward we don't actually know what Pixar's plan for the future. I mean we do know they'll have two unpromising films - one from Mark Andrews, the guy who butchered Brave. And another one about FC Barcelona (seriously?). Regardless not knowing what Disney plans != Nothing is planned. In all honesty I'll take Latina princess musical and Zootopia 2 over a film by a hack and a film about a soccer club.

Onward will have a couple weeks before Mulan opens next March. $200+ domestic should be enough for this feature. Should be well over the $100 million mark before Mulan opens, then with spring break in full effect, Disney will leave it in theaters til it crosses the $200 mark, ala Ralph breaks the Internet. The rumored Soccer film: A Pixar film about one of the richest soccer clubs in the world, can you imagine the marketing for that? Especially in Europe. And yes, Brenda Chapman learned her lesson, Never share your ideas with a major studio, but she did win an Oscar for Brave, which is nice. A Latina Princess feature from WDAS would be great. Though it would be weird to see Disney go back to doing another Princess Musical after the way they mocked them in the Ralph sequel.